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16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Yup we have the Lord descending..... at a "trump" the last one as there are seven. Now the 'dead' will rise first as that is what happens when flesh dies the 'soul' returns to the Maker that sent it.

Now this next verse demonstrates the action described by Paul in ICorinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the *LAST* trump (seventh): for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Now Paul has already said in verse 51 Behold I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall *ALL* be changed.

This 'catching' up is the referencing when there is no longer flesh but of that spiritual body also called the soul. Now as Christ demonstrated for us even this day as he went through that wall, that spiritual body is NOT held by the same weight as flesh. There is nothing in Thessalonians or anywhere else that instructs that these flesh bodies are going anywhere to meet Christ. His return closes the end of this 'age' as Paul also describes in the majority of his writings. Even Peter says there are three different heaven/earth ages.

32 posted on 10/07/2008 9:28:48 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Sounds like a

LOT

of sloppy assumptions, to me.


37 posted on 10/07/2008 9:49:09 PM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Just mythoughts
Yup we have the Lord descending..... at a "trump" the last one as there are seven.

It doesn't say trumpet...It says trump...Trump is the sound a trumpet makes...This is NOT one of the seven trumpets in Revelation...

Yup we have the Lord descending..... at a "trump" the last one as there are seven. Now the 'dead' will rise first as that is what happens when flesh dies the 'soul' returns to the Maker that sent it.

It's not talking about the soul...It's talking about the graves...The graves being opened and dead BODIES being raised...Just as Jesus' dead body was raised...

And then it speaks about these bodies (dead and alive) being changed...Just as Jesus' body was changed...

63 posted on 10/08/2008 7:31:19 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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