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Days of Praise [Devotional] - Evolution and the Woman
Institute for Creation Research ^ | October 10 | Henry Morris, Ph.D.

Posted on 10/10/2008 7:37:12 AM PDT by Sopater

Institute for Creation Research

Evolution and the Woman

 

"For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (1 Corinthians 11:8-9)

In spite of the overwhelming scientific evidence against evolution, "Christian evolutionists" still argue (or, at least, allow) that evolution could be God's method of creation.

Such a fence-straddling position is logically untenable, however, and gravely dangerous spiritually. There are numerous biblical and theological reasons why evolution, under any guise, must be unequivocally repudiated by Bible-believing Christians, and one of the most obvious is the unique biblical account of the formation of the body of the first woman. By no stretch of the imagination or device of spiritualizing exposition can this account be harmonized with the assumed evolution of human beings from some earlier group of hominids.

God "formed man of the dust of the ground" (Genesis 2:7). Many theistic evolutionists have asserted that this phrase could be applied to the long process of evolution, as imagined by modern paleoanthropologists. This, of course, is fantasy, not exegesis. But whatever argument might be made for this strange interpretation, there is simply no way at all for the record of Eve's subsequent formation out of Adam's side (Genesis 2:21-22) to be so interpreted. All they can do with this passage is ignore it, trying to pass it by with some comment about woman being close to man's heart or something. It is not only clearly spelled out in Genesis, but is confirmed by the apostle Paul, both here and in 1 Timothy 2:13. The Lord Jesus Christ Himself quoted from the Genesis account of the creation of man and woman (Matthew 19:4-6) as literal history. Both man and woman are special creations of God, with no evolutionary connection whatsoever to any kind of animal ancestry. HMM

This article was originally published October, 2008. "Evolution and the Woman", Institute for Creation Research, http://www.icr.org/article/4036/ (accessed October 10, 2008).



TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: devotional
I thank God for the woman that God gave to me, and I try hard every day to see that she is not dissapointed in His decision.
1 posted on 10/10/2008 7:37:12 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Tax-chick; piano-woman
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"Days of Praise"
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God bless you.
2 posted on 10/10/2008 7:37:35 AM PDT by Sopater (The left taketh, and the left giveth away...)
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To: Sopater

Sounds like she’s one lucky woman.


4 posted on 10/10/2008 11:28:14 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coyoteman; Religion Moderator

This is a devotional thread. There should not be argument.


8 posted on 10/10/2008 11:54:30 AM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Sopater
The Lord Jesus Christ Himself quoted from the Genesis account of the creation of man and woman (Matthew 19:4-6) as literal history.

I consider this an absolutely key point in any question of the historical truth of Old Testament narratives. If Jesus taught something, then it's awfully daring for a Christian to say He didn't know what he was talking about.

9 posted on 10/10/2008 11:55:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Coyoteman

No debate of any kind is allowed on Religion Forum threads tagged as “devotional.”


10 posted on 10/10/2008 11:56:00 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Tax-chick

Scripture is awfully clear in that regard. All the references to creation are made as statements. That doesn’t leave much room for allegory or whatever else one likes to claim.


11 posted on 10/10/2008 12:02:26 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

You’re right. In addition, references to Creation, the Flood, the Exodus, and so on are as a basis to teach Christian truths, such as the teaching on marriage. That’s very unsound pedagogy unless the teacher is profoundly certain the events happened as told - and who would be more certain than the Son of God and his closest followers?


12 posted on 10/10/2008 12:09:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Tax-chick

Jesus was the member of the Godhead who actually did the creating.

If He said it happened a certain way, He would know.

John 1 : 1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.


13 posted on 10/10/2008 12:13:45 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Exactly.


14 posted on 10/10/2008 12:16:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Sopater; Religion Moderator
Is it sufficient to label an article as "devotional" just to make it one? And can an article be de-labeled if it fails to be devotional at all?
15 posted on 10/10/2008 12:23:34 PM PDT by bezelbub
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To: Tax-chick; metmom

Looks like there was some discussion while I was away. The Mod deleted the posts before I saw them.


16 posted on 10/10/2008 12:34:30 PM PDT by Sopater (The left taketh, and the left giveth away...)
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To: Sopater

FReepmail


17 posted on 10/10/2008 12:43:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Tax-chick
If Jesus taught something, then it's awfully daring for a Christian to say He didn't know what he was talking about.

I agree 100%. Jesus was either the Son of God, or a liar. Anyone who teaches that He was simply a prophet of God or a good man, is calling Him a liar.
18 posted on 10/10/2008 12:56:37 PM PDT by Sopater (The left taketh, and the left giveth away...)
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I agree 100%. Jesus was either the Son of God, or a liar. Anyone who teaches that He was simply a prophet of God or a good man, is calling Him a liar.

A precarious position to put oneself in to be sure.

19 posted on 10/10/2008 1:08:29 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bezelbub; Sopater
An article only needs to have a theme of worship to be a devotional. A devotional can also be theological. Some Religion Forum posters use an additional tag on their devotionals to avoid provoking a debate, e.g. "LDS Devotional."

This thread could have been labeled "Creationist Devotional." The theme of worship is "Days of Praise" though the article's title should have been retained in the header.

20 posted on 10/10/2008 1:23:16 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Sopater; metmom

If only more people used logic like that, there would be less confusion all around.


21 posted on 10/10/2008 3:20:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Sopater

I say you could label future posts “Creationist Devotional.” I’m not ashamed to be a creationist, and it might also get the attention of others who are just skimming and don’t realize they might be interested.


22 posted on 10/10/2008 6:58:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Religion Moderator; Coyoteman
Coyoteman No debate of any kind is allowed on Religion Forum threads tagged as “devotional.”

I guess the "E's" can start putting "devotional" on the threads they start; but that would kinda give the game away; eh?

;^)

24 posted on 10/11/2008 4:57:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tax-chick
I consider this an absolutely key point in any question of the historical truth of Old Testament narratives.
If Jesus taught something, then it's awfully daring for a Christian to say He didn't know what he was talking about.




New Testement...........
NIV Matthew 13:35
  So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet: "I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter things hidden since the creation of the world."
 
 
NIV Matthew 25:34
  "Then the King will say to those on his right, `Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.
 
 
NIV Mark 10:6
   "But at the beginning of creation God `made them male and female.'   (Not umpteen eons later; after lots of Evolution takes place!)
 
 
NIV Mark 13:18-19
 18.  Pray that this will not take place in winter,
 19.  because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now--and never to be equaled again.
 
 
NIV Romans 1:20
  For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
 
 
NIV Romans 1:25
  They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
 
 
NIV Romans 8:20-22
 20.  For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope
 21.  that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
 22.  We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.
 
 
NIV 1 Corinthians 11:8-9
 8.  For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
 9.  neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.
 
 
NIV Ephesians 3:8-9
 8.  Although I am less than the least of all God's people, this grace was given me: to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ,
 9.  and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.
 
 
NIV Colossians 1:16-17
 16.  For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
 17.  He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
 
 
NIV 1 Timothy 4:4-5
 4.  For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
 5.  because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
 
 
NIV Hebrews 4:13
  Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
 
 
NIV Hebrews 9:11
  When Christ came as high priest of the good things that are already here,  he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not man-made, that is to say, not a part of this creation.
 
 
NIV Hebrews 9:26
  Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world.
 
 
NIV Hebrews 12:26-29
 26.  At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens."
 27.  The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is, created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain.
 28.  Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe,
 29.  for our "God is a consuming fire."
 
 
NIV 2 Peter 3:4
   They will say, "Where is this `coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."
 
 
NIV Revelation 4:11
  "You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being."
 
 
NIV Revelation 10:6
  And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay!
 
 
NIV Revelation 13:8
  All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world.
 
 
NIV Revelation 17:8
  The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
Old Testement...........
 
NIV Deuteronomy 4:32
  Ask now about the former days, long before your time, from the day God created man on the earth; ask from one end of the heavens to the other. Has anything so great as this ever happened, or has anything like it ever been heard of?
 
 
NIV Psalms 89:47
  Remember how fleeting is my life. For what futility you have created all men!
 
 
NIV Psalms 104:30
  When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the earth.
 
 
NIV Psalms 139:13
  For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb.
 
 
NIV Psalms 148:4-5
 4.  Praise him, you highest heavens and you waters above the skies.
 5.  Let them praise the name of the LORD, for he commanded and they were created.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 40:26
   Lift your eyes and look to the heavens: Who created all these? He who brings out the starry host one by one, and calls them each by name.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 41:19-20
 19.  I will put in the desert the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive. I will set pines in the wasteland, the fir and the cypress together,
 20.  so that people may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the LORD has done this, that the Holy One of Israel has created it.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 42:5-6
 5.  This is what God the LORD says-- he who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it:
 6.  "I, the LORD, have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 43:1
  But now, this is what the LORD says-- he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: "Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have summoned you by name; you are mine.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 43:6-7
 6.  I will say to the north, `Give them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth--
 7.  everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made."
 
 
NIV Isaiah 45:7-8
 7.  I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and  create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.
 8.  "You heavens above, rain down righteousness; let the clouds shower it down. Let the earth open wide, let salvation spring up, let righteousness grow with it; I, the LORD, have created it.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 45:12
  It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 45:18
  For this is what the LORD says-- he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited-- he says: "I am the LORD, and there is no other."
 
 
NIV Isaiah 54:16-17
 16.  "See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for its work. And it is I who have created the destroyer to work havoc;
 17.  no weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and this is their vindication from me,"  declares the LORD.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 57:16
  I will not accuse forever, nor will I always be angry, for then the spirit of man would grow faint before me-- the breath of man that I have created.
 
 
NIV Isaiah 65:17-18
 17.  "Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.
 18.  But be glad and rejoice forever in what I will create, for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight and its people a joy.
 
 
NIV Ezekiel 28:13-15
 13.  You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone adorned you: ruby, topaz and emerald, chrysolite, onyx and jasper, sapphire,  turquoise and beryl. Your settings and mountings  were made of gold; on the day you were created they were prepared.
 14.  You were anointed as a guardian cherub, for so I ordained you. You were on the holy mount of God; you walked among the fiery stones.
 15.  You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you.
 
 
NIV Malachi 2:10
  Have we not all one Father ? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our fathers by breaking faith with one another?

25 posted on 10/11/2008 4:59:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
What do these ignurt goat-hearders know about TIME anyway???
 
We tend to get THIS kind of comments from TIME to time...
 

 

NIV 1 Corinthians 2:7
   No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.
 

NIV 2 Timothy 1:8-10
 8.  So do not be ashamed to testify about our Lord, or ashamed of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God,
 9.  who has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,
 10.  but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.
 

NIV Titus 1:1-4
 1.  Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ for the faith of God's elect and the knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness--
 2.  a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,
 3.  and at his appointed season he brought his word to light through the preaching entrusted to me by the command of God our Savior,
 4.  To Titus, my true son in our common faith:   Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.
 

NIV 1 Peter 1:20
   He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

26 posted on 10/11/2008 5:02:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
A precarious position to put oneself in to be sure.

KJV Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.


Remember DARWIN...

28 posted on 10/11/2008 5:05:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
 
... "Christian evolutionists" still argue (or, at least, allow) that evolution could be God's method of creation.

Let's see if there are verses that might shed light on how fast GOD works.....

Isa 48:3 ... I have declared the former things

from the beginning; and they went forth out of My mouth, and I shewed them; I did [them] SUDDENLY, and they came to pass.

Indeed!!

Genesis 1
1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3. And God
said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

 

This is a GOD who creates by speaking; but; how LONG did it take?

 

Now Jesus was a man who had God-like powers. Was HE God? The Book says so.......

NIV Colossians 1:13-17
13. For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves,
14. in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
15. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
17. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

NIV Revelation 4:11
"You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being."

NIV Revelation 10:6
And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay!

 

Notice that when this man speaks, things happen RIGHT NOW! Not after some times passes and Nature takes it's course.

NIV Matthew 8:2-3
2. A man with leprosy came and knelt before him and said, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean."
3. Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy.

NIV Matthew 21:19
Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered.

NIV Mark 1:41-42
41. Filled with compassion, Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!"
42. Immediately the leprosy left him and he was cured.

NIV Mark 5:41-42
41. He took her by the hand and said to her, "Talitha koum!" (which means, "Little girl, I say to you, get up!").
42. Immediately the girl stood up and walked around (she was twelve years old). At this they were completely astonished.

NIV Mark 10:51-52
51. "What do you want me to do for you?" Jesus asked him. The blind man said, "Rabbi, I want to see."
52. "Go," said Jesus, "your faith has healed you." Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus along the road.

NIV Luke 5:13
Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" And Immediately the leprosy left him.

NIV Luke 5:24-25
24. But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins. . . ." He said to the paralyzed man, "I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home."
25. Immediately he stood up in front of them, took what he had been lying on and went home praising God.

NIV Luke 8:44
She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and Immediately her bleeding stopped.

NIV Luke 13:12-13
12. When Jesus saw her, he called her forward and said to her, "Woman, you are set free from your infirmity."
13. Then he put his hands on her, and Immediately she straightened up and praised God.

NIV Luke 18:42-43
42. Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has healed you."
43. Immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus, praising God. When all the people saw it, they also praised God.

NIV Acts 9:33-35
33. There he found a man named Aeneas, a paralytic who had been bedridden for eight years.
34. "Aeneas," Peter said to him, "Jesus Christ heals you. Get up and take care of your mat." Immediately Aeneas got up.
35. All those who lived in Lydda and Sharon saw him and turned to the Lord.

NIV Matthew 8:13
Then Jesus said to the centurion, "Go! It will be done just as you believed it would." And his servant was healed at that very hour.

NIV Matthew 15:28
Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

 

Now if this same personage, who does things in an instant; how LONG would it take Him to CREATE all that we find around us???


29 posted on 10/11/2008 5:06:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

That’s an excellent selection of Scriptures. It seems to me that a lot of our theology falls apart if we don’t understand “create” to mean “create”!


31 posted on 10/11/2008 5:39:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick (GUNS are what real women want for Christmas.)
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To: Elsie
Your posts 23, 27 and 30 were removed. No debate of any kind is tolerable on a devotional thread.

One sided theological posts are fine on a devotional thread, but when those posts confront the beliefs of other Freepers, it is debate and therefore inappropriate for a devotional where the underlying theme must be worship.

I guess the "E's" can start putting "devotional" on the threads they start; but that would kinda give the game away; eh?

I doubt an underlying theme of worship would be mustered by the "E's" as you call them and therefore would question an "Evolutionist Devotional" thread tag.

However, some posters have sought the protection of Religion Forum tags to improve the crevo debate. Also, atheism/agnostism has been used in the tag for RF caucus and ecumenical threads.

32 posted on 10/11/2008 9:15:35 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
One sided theological posts are fine on a devotional thread, but when those posts confront the beliefs of other Freepers, it is debate and therefore inappropriate for a devotional where the underlying theme must be worship.

By their very NATURE, a 'devotional' thread WILL 'confront the beliefs' of others.

It seems the 'others' would thus have the ability to censor devotional threads - something that is NOT supposed to happen.

33 posted on 10/11/2008 9:48:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
 
 Devotion is GOOD!!
 
 

NIV 1 Timothy 1:20-21
 20.  Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,
 21.  which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith.   Grace be with you.

 
NIV Proverbs 4:13
   Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life.
 

NIV Hebrews 3:6
   But Christ is faithful as a son over God's house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast.
 

NIV Hebrews 3:14
   We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.
 

NIV Hebrews 6:11
   We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, in order to make your hope sure.
 
 
NIV Hebrews 12:3
   Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
 
 
NIV 2 Timothy 2:11-13
 11.  Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him;
 12.  if we endure, we will also reign with him.
If we disown him, he will also disown us;
 13.  if we are faithless, he will remain faithful, for he cannot disown himself.
 

NIV 2 Peter 2:20-21
 20.  If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.
 21.  It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.
 
 
 
NIV 2 John 1:8
  Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully.
 

NIV Jude 1:21
   Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.
 

NIV Revelation 2:25
   Only hold on to what you have until I come.
 

NIV Revelation 3:11
   I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.


34 posted on 10/11/2008 9:50:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
 
... "Christian evolutionists" still argue (or, at least, allow) that evolution could be God's method of creation.
 

 

Most Christians 'believe' Evolution because they do NOT know what their Bible says.

If, as they say, they 'believe' the words of Jesus and the New Testament writers,

they have to decide what the following verses mean:

Acts 17:26-27
26. From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.
27. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.

Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

If there were no one man, that means SIN did NOT enter the World thru him.

If Adam was NOT the one man, that means SPIRITUAL DEATH did not come thru him.

If SIN did NOT enter the World thru the one man, that means Jesus does not save from SIN.

Are we to believe that the one man is symbolic? Does that mean Jesus is symbolic as well?

REDACTED  --->

 

 The Theory of Evolution states that there WAS no one man, but a wide population that managed to inherit that last mutated gene that makes MEN different from APES.

Acts 17:24-26

24. "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.
25. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.
26.
From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.

Was LUKE wrong about this?

 

1 Corinthians 11:8-9
8. For
man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
9. neither was man
created for woman, but woman for man.

1 Timothy 2:13
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.


Was Paul
WRONG about these???

 

If so, is GOD so puny that He allows this 'inaccuracy' in His Word??



REDACTED  --->   And THIS verse is completely against E!!!

NIV Genesis 2:18
The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

35 posted on 10/11/2008 9:55:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
How about just plain, ol' Scripture with NO comments?

(You'll have to find the IMPLIED 'devotion' therein.)


Acts 17:24-27
24. "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.
25. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.

26. From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live.
27. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.

Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

1 Corinthians 11:8-9
8. For
man did not come from woman, but woman from man;
9. neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

 

1 Timothy 2:13
For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

 
Genesis 2:18
The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

36 posted on 10/11/2008 10:07:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The outsiders to a theologically biased devotional thread often create theologically biased devotional threads of their own.


37 posted on 10/11/2008 10:07:31 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Elsie

You missed some
1Co 11:11 Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman;
1Co 11:12 for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them


38 posted on 10/11/2008 10:17:05 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Elsie

Thanks for the pings.


39 posted on 10/11/2008 5:56:42 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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