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Once More, With Humor (McCain & Obama meet tonight at Al Smith dinner)
WITL ^ | October 16, 2008 | Rocco Palmo

Posted on 10/16/2008 1:47:52 PM PDT by NYer

Just a reminder that -- fresh off their tense final debate (fullvideo) -- the presidential contenders will make their last joint appearance of the campaign at tonight's Al Smith Dinner in New York.

Now in its 63rd year, the white-tie barb-fest at the Waldorf-Astoria benefits Catholic Charities of the Big Apple archdiocese. Hosted by the city's archbishop -- who'll be flanked by John McCain and Barack Obama at the center of the traditional multi-tiered dais -- the event takes its name in tribute to the son of the Lower East Side tenements who rose to become the Empire State's governor, and in 1928 the first Catholic nominated for the presidency.

Beyond sold-out, this year's dinner has far exceeded its $2.5 million goal thanks to its joint keynoters:

Political heavyweights will pepper the dais: Sen. Hillary Clinton, Gov. Paterson, Mayor Bloomberg and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

Former Gov. George Pataki, former Mayor Ed Koch and Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau will be there, too.

When [Al] Smith [IV] approached then-McCain adviser John Weaver about the Republican nominee appearing, "He said, 'We'll be there.' I said, 'I haven't given you the date yet.' He said, 'Doesn't matter.'"

McCain spoke at the Al Smith dinner in 2005.

Getting Team Obama to commit was slightly more work: "My line to them was, 'I know you're coming. You know you're coming.'"

McCain and Obama will each deliver 15-minute talks.

Appearing at the Al Smith dinner is a tradition for presidential candidates, with both major nominees typically attending in an election year.

"They say Jack Kennedy won the [1960] election at the Al Smith Dinner," Smith said in his office at St. Vincent's Catholic Medical Centers, which features an array of Gov. Smith's photos and an Obama bobble-head doll.

In 2004, Democrat John Kerry - a Catholic - was not invited, presumably for his pro-choice stance on abortion. As a result, President Bush also did not attend.

Alfred E. Smith, the nation's first Catholic presidential candidate back in 1928, died in 1944. The first dinner in his honor came a year later at the behest of then-Archbishop Francis Spellman.

Since then, it has become one of the premier fund-raisers for the Archdiocese of New York.

Last year, with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair headlining, the dinner raised $1.8 million for charity, Smith's great-grandson said.
From 9pm Eastern (0100GMT), the dinner and speeches will be shown/streamed live on C-Span and Sirius Satellite Radio's The Catholic Channel.

In other campaign news from the church beat... presumably for purposes of, er, emphasis, one US bishop has taken to employing the Democratic nominee's middle name.

PHOTO: Reuters


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Humor; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; alsmith; alsmithdinner; bloomberg; catholicvote; clinton; kissinger; koch; mccain; obama; pataki; paterson

1 posted on 10/16/2008 1:47:53 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 10/16/2008 1:48:42 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: neverdem; The Mayor

Ping!


3 posted on 10/16/2008 1:52:24 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Isn’t the anti-Christ going to have problems sitting so close to a Catholic Arch-Bishop? Shades of Damien Thorn.


4 posted on 10/16/2008 1:59:35 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

I won’t be able to watch this if C-SPAN carries this live tonight, but I sure would like a transcript of Obama’s speech.

I predict that he will skirt around the pro-life issue making a lot of comments that SOUND pro-life but when analysed mean nothing (Sort of like his “we’ll take a look at drilling” comment he made in the debate last night).


5 posted on 10/16/2008 2:23:18 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: NYer

thanks, bfl


6 posted on 10/16/2008 2:37:35 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: NYer
"They say Jack Kennedy won the [1960] election at the Al Smith Dinner," Smith said in his office at St. Vincent's Catholic Medical Centers, which features an array of Gov. Smith's photos and an Obama bobble-head doll.

It was the first time the presidential candidates had been invited and Nixon didn't get that he was supposed to "trade barbs" (gentle or not) with Kennedy. Nixon just gave a straightforward speech. Kennedy tossed barbs and zingers out to the crowd, so I guess that's why Kennedy "won" the dinner.

If I remember Theodore White's book rightly, Al Smith's son voted for Nixon in that year.

7 posted on 10/16/2008 2:52:54 PM PDT by x
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To: mass55th; NYer
That depends on how close the Arch Bishop keeps his exorcist. It would be interesting to see reactions to Holy Water and the Presence of the Holy Eucharist, but that's not for playing magic shows (the way Jesus refused to entertain Herod with miracles as if they were mere magic tricks).

Catholics can no longer coddle the world's leadership. People are well exposed to evil and it shouldn't be covered up as “taboo”. When your young puppy piddles the carpet, you grab the pup by the scruff (so as not to do physical damage) and put the young dog's nose in the mess and shout, “NO!” What should God's representation do for human leadership equipped with free will? How about this:

We can easily find graphic depictions of war, but I hope the diner exposes the wickedness of sin with graphic video of what sin does in a sleeping society;

what abortion does to human children,

executions by fanatics (beheading, throat cutting...not of nationalistic soldiers POWs, but of the school girls walking home from their Church = innocent victims),

female castration in line with twisted traditions (this practice is definitely not of God),

homosexual behavior and its consequence (murderous jealousy endemic of fanatical homosexuals, the numbers, the facts, the target of these who pervert human sexuality, nothing sanitized for viewer's comfort)

euthanized victims who were too old, sick, handicapped, disfigured, etc.

I get a queasy feeling that there's evil in the world and I have to search hard for what civil “authority” covers up to protect my sensitivity and morale. But, this is not U-Boats sinking American shipping off the East Coast. This is SIN and its real effect in society whose moral conscience has fallen asleep.

TIME TO WAKE IT UP!

8 posted on 10/16/2008 2:53:49 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (Pro Life from conception to natural death)
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To: NYer
In 2004, Democrat John Kerry - a Catholic - was not invited, presumably for his pro-choice stance on abortion

someone please explain to me how a non-catholic with a more extreme pro-abortion stance would be welcome??

9 posted on 10/16/2008 2:57:29 PM PDT by xhrist ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. " - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Miss Marple

I just checked C-Span’s schedule and it’s going to be on tonight, starting at 9 p.m. eastern time. I wasn’t planning on watching it because I didn’t think it was on TV, but now have plans to at least record it for later watching.


10 posted on 10/16/2008 3:02:08 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: SaltyJoe

Well said SaltyJoe. I’m hoping that the Arch Bishop’s words tonight make Bambi feel extremely uncomfortable.


11 posted on 10/16/2008 3:06:32 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: NYer

There’s a great photo that ran in either Time or Newsweek in 1980 of Reagan and Carter at the Al Smith Dinner. Reagan is laughing gleefully at one side and Carter has a big sour puss on the other. Summed up both men beautifully.


12 posted on 10/16/2008 3:11:15 PM PDT by ravensandricks (Jesus rides beside me. He never buys any smokes.)
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To: NYer

13 posted on 10/16/2008 3:40:24 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: mass55th

thanks for sharing the info....I might just watch!


14 posted on 10/16/2008 3:59:47 PM PDT by tioga
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To: NYer

Anything that’ll keep them out of the Senate....


15 posted on 10/16/2008 4:09:01 PM PDT by onedoug ( Barracuda!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Lol ... too funny!


16 posted on 10/16/2008 4:24:20 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer
The Al Smith affairs have worn out their usefulness. If the bishops can't, or won't, speak the truth in love to politicians as part of their normal role as shepherds, they have no business hobnobbing with pols in such a way that it leaves them with the impression that perhaps the moral issues aren't so important, after all. These fetes smack of insider cronyism, now. The "times" delivered along these lines in my own neck of the woods (Massachusetts) are nauseating in their familiarity with near-vermin politicians, and leave the people confused at best, and mumbling about rank hypocrisy otherwise.

The nature of our situation, with respect to the Church's interaction with nearly all Democrats, and a fairly large number of Republicans, is - or should be - adversarial. The role of Nathan ("You are the man!") in 2 Samuel 12:7 is what our bishops and priests should be adopting, and not the role of appeasing flatterers/court jesters for a class of people who are, with few exceptions these days, more and more reprehensible by the month. That Obama, Clinton, Koch, Bloomberg and Pataki (as just the vanguard of many more unnamed solons of their ilk) are there as guests of honor underscores and validates everything I have just said. Such outings are reduced to being a disgrace. God help us.

17 posted on 10/16/2008 5:13:48 PM PDT by magisterium
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To: NYer

Why is Obama even invited? Or is it traditional to have both parties represented?


18 posted on 10/16/2008 5:26:08 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Fudd Fan; AliVeritas

McCain & Obama meet tonight at Al Smith dinner

9 EST C-SPAN


19 posted on 10/16/2008 5:27:41 PM PDT by SoCalPol (McCain / Palin 08 The Only Choice)
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To: Miss Marple
Obamanation's speech would be full of lies anyway. Watch him supporting this. (And he doesn't even realize that his future voting block is being murdered!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSiPqjU6fYI&eurl=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2105631/posts
 

You Tube - Over 1,500 Black Babies Per Day Are Killed In The USA / Pro-Life Anti-Abortion Video PSA


20 posted on 10/16/2008 5:29:00 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: xhrist

My question too!


21 posted on 10/16/2008 5:30:24 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; SE Mom; penelopesire; Miss Didi; retrokitten; silent_jonny; All

His speech was AWESOME !!!! Snowbama up next . . on Hannity.


22 posted on 10/16/2008 6:28:29 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Übermensch? More like Ubermeshugana.


23 posted on 10/16/2008 6:42:20 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: NYer

Cardinal O’Connor would never let Barry appear at the Al Smith Dinner. I’m shocked.


24 posted on 10/16/2008 6:43:42 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: STARWISE

John McCain had me in tears from laughing so hard!!!!!

His BEST political speech of the campaign season!!!


25 posted on 10/16/2008 6:49:11 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Miss Marple
It appears that this will be RE-broadcast on C-SPAN tonight at 12:33 am (Eastern) -- 9:33 pm (CA time):
http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

26 posted on 10/16/2008 6:50:26 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Thanks, RonDog. I got to watch it after all, since I got home earlier than I expected.

McCain was funny and gracious. Obama has NO sense of humor, poor delivery, and was very un-funny when carping about Fox.


27 posted on 10/16/2008 7:01:38 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: NYer

McCain was great. C-SPAN may run a replay at some point.


28 posted on 10/16/2008 7:22:06 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Miss Marple
Here is MOST of McCain's speech (via YouTube) now posted at the premier CONSERVATIVE video web site, popmodal.com:

McCain ROASTS Obama at Alfred E. Smith memorial dinner

John McCain skewers Barack Obama at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Dinner in New York City. October 16, 2008.

Runtime: 6m:17s


29 posted on 10/16/2008 7:44:34 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Sen. Hillary Clinton, Gov. Paterson, Mayor Bloomberg, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, former Gov. George Pataki, former Mayor Ed Koch and Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau... In 2004, Democrat John Kerry - a Catholic - was not invited, presumably for his pro-choice stance on abortion. As a result, President Bush also did not attend. Alfred E. Smith, the nation's first Catholic presidential candidate back in 1928, died in 1944. The first dinner in his honor came a year later at the behest of then-Archbishop Francis Spellman.

30 posted on 10/17/2008 7:20:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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