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Catholic voters heavily favored Obama, analysis shows
Washington Times ^ | November 7, 2008 | Julia Duin

Posted on 11/06/2008 8:30:22 PM PST by Alex Murphy

Large numbers of Catholics and religiously unaffiliated voters heavily contributed to President-elect Barack Obama's huge margin of victory over Republican Sen. John McCain, according to an analysis of exit poll surveys by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

"Obama had a greater appeal for religious people," said John Green, a senior fellow at Pew. "I don't think we would have seen that support had Hillary [Rodham Clinton] been nominated."

Catholics voted for Mr. Obama over Mr. McCain by a nine-point margin (54 percent versus 45 percent), a turnaround from 2004 when Catholics supported President Bush over Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, by a five-point margin (52 percent to 47 percent).

Their votes came despite the warnings from 89 bishops who issued a blizzard of statements in the closing weeks of the election, warning against voting for a pro-choice candidate.

Denver Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, who last month termed Mr. Obama "the most committed 'abortion-rights' presidential candidate of either major party since the Roe v. Wade abortion decision in 1973," led the effort.

His - and other voices from church leaders - went unheeded.

"Six months ago the pundits were predicting that President-elect Obama would not do well with Catholic voters," said Steve Krueger, national director of the Boston-based group Catholic Democrats. "The fact that Senators Obama and [Joseph R.] Biden reversed a trend, since 1996, of white ethnic Catholics defecting to the Republican Party in presidential elections is of historic significance."

Mr. Obama did especially well among Hispanics, who are overwhelmingly Catholic. Two-thirds of them voted for him compared with white Catholics, who voted for Mr. McCain 52 to 47 percent over Mr. Obama.

"Latino Catholics appear to have been decisive in flipping three states from red to blue: New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada," wrote Michael Sean Winters

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; bho2008; catholicvote; mccain; sheeruttermadness; treason; unamericanactivities
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"Latino Catholics appear to have been decisive in flipping three states from red to blue: New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada," wrote Michael Sean Winters, an author on Catholic issues and a regular contributor to a blog sponsored by the Jesuit-run America magazine.

Plus, "The states that are most Catholic - Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania - are also the states that are the bluest of the blue," he added.

From the article, by the numbers (xx means no percentage was given for this candidate):

xx% McCain, 26% Obama - Evangelicals
xx% McCain, 34% Obama - White Protestants
xx% McCain, 45% Obama - Protestants
45% McCain, 54% Obama - Catholics
xx% McCain, 67% Obama - Hispanic Catholics
xx% McCain, 78% Obama - Jews

1 posted on 11/06/2008 8:30:23 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

hypocrites


2 posted on 11/06/2008 8:32:06 PM PST by NetSurfer (It wasn't an election. It was The Fraudulent Selection.)
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To: Alex Murphy

A sad state of affairs for Catholicism in the US.


3 posted on 11/06/2008 8:32:19 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Alex Murphy

So basically, toss out the freeloading hispanics, and actual American Catholics supported the Republican, even a stiff like John McCain.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 8:32:57 PM PST by raptor29
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To: Alex Murphy

These Catholics are most definitely not listening to their shepherds, the Bishops.


5 posted on 11/06/2008 8:33:33 PM PST by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: Alex Murphy

seems like a good amount of those catholics that switched were hispanic.


6 posted on 11/06/2008 8:33:36 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: notaliberal; Alex Murphy

Let’s look at the states that have a Catholic majority or large (at least 35%) plurality: Rhode Island (64% Catholic), New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania. Conservative strongholds for many years/sarc.


8 posted on 11/06/2008 8:36:41 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Alex Murphy

It’s interesting that they make analysis on exit poll data, that has a lot of bias in it, including selection and interviewer.

Now the data could be close to the actual, but I would take all analysis based on exit polls with a grain of salt.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 8:36:49 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (Liberal + Democrat = Socialist)
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To: Alex Murphy
They hate Evangelicals more than they value their Freedom or follow their faith.

I hope they enjoy the faith hating marxism they voted for.

10 posted on 11/06/2008 8:36:49 PM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Alex Murphy

They aren’t “religious people” as the article says. They are secularists and probably spiritually bound to “democracy” and “socialism”.


11 posted on 11/06/2008 8:38:34 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Alex Murphy

This is why I left my church...but not my faith.


12 posted on 11/06/2008 8:38:51 PM PST by acapesket
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To: Alex Murphy

Catholic Democrats??? BABYKILLERS!!!!


13 posted on 11/06/2008 8:39:00 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Alex Murphy
This Catholic, and his converted wife, voted for McCain.

But keep up the hate, brother!

14 posted on 11/06/2008 8:39:00 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Alex Murphy

The 78% Jewish vote is the saddest one. I’m convinced they have emotionally detached themselves from Israel.


15 posted on 11/06/2008 8:39:20 PM PST by taraytarah
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To: NetSurfer

Actually, most of these “Catholics” are not even Catholic enough to qualify as hypocrites. One in four Americans identifies himself as “Catholic”, but what does that mean? Some form has a question about religion and you check “Catholic” even though you haven’t been to church since your First Communion? Catholics who go to church every week — every week; not twice a year — overwhelmingly vote for Republican candidates.


16 posted on 11/06/2008 8:39:26 PM PST by utahagen
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Why can’t I have Catholics like you in my family?


17 posted on 11/06/2008 8:39:58 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Alex Murphy

I approached an intersection today where 4 black women were collecting donations for their church. As one started toward me I had already decided I was going to decline by saying I could not donate to any church that supported abortion. Alas, the light changed before she could get close enough for me to say it.


18 posted on 11/06/2008 8:41:56 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tagline scrubbed to prevent invitation to indoctrinization camp)
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To: kingattax

Catholics ignore Pope’s advice ping.


19 posted on 11/06/2008 8:42:20 PM PST by taraytarah
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To: Clemenza

Too true! The NE is full of lying, deluded so called “Catholics”
They are all Moonbats and worship at the Kennedy fountain.
Admin.. don’t tell me to buzz off
I am going quietly.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 8:42:51 PM PST by acapesket
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To: Alex Murphy

I haven’t even gone to church because my priest is so far left. I couldn’t take him anymore. I attend TV Mass.


22 posted on 11/06/2008 8:45:03 PM PST by sageb1 (Justice is for lawyers. Liberty is for We,The People.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’s a sad state of affairs for anyone claiming to be a Christian who voted for Obama.


23 posted on 11/06/2008 8:45:55 PM PST by pallis
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To: Alex Murphy

This should not be a surprise. Catholics have been concerned for a long, long time with social justice issues and are voting according to their beliefs. The dominant Evangelicals which we have tied ourselves to are a product of the late 19th Century and have (to my Catholic school ears) a strange interpretation of the Bible which borrows a lot from the Old Testament and glosses over a good portion of Jesus’s teachings.

This is what comes of thinking that all Christians believe what Karl Rove’s “base” believes. I always knew it was a mistake to allow the Fundamentalists to hold this much sway over our party. They might have been enough of a population to move the percentage points a bit this way or that but were never going to be enough if the majority of the electorate decided to vote the other way.

I’d just as soon jettison the fundies and court the Catholics and perhaps move the party and Conservatism to a more intellectual grounding.


24 posted on 11/06/2008 8:46:02 PM PST by LoneApple
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To: ClearCase_guy

Pal around with a some snake oil salesman who calls the Catholic Church “The Great Whore” and see what happens.


25 posted on 11/06/2008 8:46:56 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: Alex Murphy

I didn’t vote for him, and most Catholics I know didn’t either.


26 posted on 11/06/2008 8:47:33 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Don't blame me. I voted for McCain/Palin)
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To: Alex Murphy

if mccain had explained the democrat origins of the subprime crisis properly,

he would have been elected.

people wrongly blamed bush for the economic malaise.


27 posted on 11/06/2008 8:48:08 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Alex Murphy

No,
CATHOLIC voters did not vote for Obamanation.

CINOs — Catholics in Name Only voted for him, and in doing so, excommunicated themselves from the Catholic Church.

We need to get out there and catechize them.


29 posted on 11/06/2008 8:48:58 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Alex Murphy
**Denver Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, who last month termed Mr. Obama "the most committed 'abortion-rights' presidential candidate of either major party since the Roe v. Wade abortion decision in 1973," led the effort. **

You MUST love Archbishop Chaput; he's still in there fighting!

Archbishop Chaput Eager to See Kmiec Deliver a Pro-Life Obama

30 posted on 11/06/2008 8:50:22 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Alex Murphy

And this is why we will never, ever, see an American Pope.


31 posted on 11/06/2008 8:50:59 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (2010. Do or die.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I had an ex-coworker who is Catholic go out to lunch with me. We were talking about his new job, and he said that he worked with a Christian who he could not stand. The emphasis was on Christian.

I said, “I thought you were Christian?” He replied, “No, I am Catholic, not a Christian”.

I responded, “Oh.”

It never struck me til then that there still was such a deep schism in Christendom.


34 posted on 11/06/2008 8:55:46 PM PST by rom
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To: LoneApple

Statist authoritarian Catholic thought is no alternative that we should embrace. You see a secularized version of Catholic authoritarianism in folks such as Giuliani and the first Mayor Daley.


35 posted on 11/06/2008 8:59:35 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: LoneApple

What is social justice? Is that related to ‘Redistribution of Wealth’?


36 posted on 11/06/2008 9:01:04 PM PST by rom
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To: acapesket

I knew a daily communicant in Massachusetts who sadly fits that description. He actually did not regard Ted Kennedy as pro-abortion and was ga-ga over Obama. Its hard to understand that level of delusion.


37 posted on 11/06/2008 9:15:11 PM PST by BerkeleyRefugee
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To: LoneApple
I always knew it was a mistake to allow the Fundamentalists to hold this much sway over our party. They might have been enough of a population to move the percentage points a bit this way or that but were never going to be enough if the majority of the electorate decided to vote the other way.

I’d just as soon jettison the fundies and court the Catholics and perhaps move the party and Conservatism to a more intellectual grounding.

LoneApple
Since Nov 6, 2008

Welcome to Free Republic, LoneApple.

38 posted on 11/06/2008 9:29:13 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Alex Murphy

Alex Murphy!—you are like Obama—any criticism of you and you get deleted! You are the moderator of this thread aren’t you!


39 posted on 11/06/2008 9:50:13 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: rom

Rom,

Sort of - I prefer to think of it as compulsory charity-giving.

I’m sickened by fellow “Catholics” who think there are social issues of great enough moral weight to offset the destruction of innocent human life.


40 posted on 11/06/2008 9:50:53 PM PST by cartervt2k
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To: notaliberal
Your post was removed because potty language - and references to potty language - are not tolerable on the Religion Forum.

Another post was removed because making a thread "about" another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

For guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum, click on my profile page.

41 posted on 11/06/2008 9:54:33 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Alex Murphy

Catholics who voted for Obama should be excommunicated!!!
I am so ashamed of some of my own.


42 posted on 11/06/2008 9:57:11 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: Petronski

Leave the thread.


45 posted on 11/06/2008 10:03:13 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: sandyeggo; notaliberal; Alex Murphy

I am not Alex Murphy.


48 posted on 11/06/2008 10:06:19 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Colonel_Flagg

What does that statement have to do with anything? Burke would make a good one, as would the Cardinal down in TX... DiNardo (sp?)?

There are may more Defenders of the Faith around now in positions of power in the Church then there were 20 years ago.


50 posted on 11/06/2008 10:07:32 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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