Skip to comments.Doug Kmiec to give election ‘post-mortem’ at Calif. seminary [Catholic Caucus]
Posted on 11/07/2008 1:49:37 PM PST by NYer
.- St. Johns Seminary in Camarillo, California has invited Pepperdine University law professor and Obama backer Doug Kmiec to give an election post-mortem lecture.
According to the California Catholic Daily, Kmiec will give the Thirteenth Annual Newman C. Eberhardt Lecture next Tuesday. The seminarys web site says his lecture will examine the prominent role played by the American Catholic community in the 2008 election, from Bishops educating candidates on ensoulment to alternative ways to be pro-life to the selection of running mates.
Kmiec, former legal counsel for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, has also been dean of the law school at the Catholic University of America and a law professor at Notre Dame University.
Though a pro-life Republican, in a March 23 essay in Slate magazine he endorsed the pro-abortion rights Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, saying Obama wants to move the nation beyond its religious and racial divides and that he wants to return the United States to that company of nations committed to human rights.
Kmiecs justifications for supporting Obama have drawn criticism from Catholic clergy and laity. He has argued that Archbishop Charles J. Chaputs position on the Catholic citizens voting duties discounts reducing the incidence of abortion by cultural (economic and social) means by focusing on legal remedies.
However, Kmiec insists his disagreement is not over the essence of Church instruction but rather the preferred means of implementing it.
If Barak signs FOCA Kmiek should be excommunicated!
Is there a Freeper out there in the Los Angeles diocese who can exert pressure on ROger Mahony to prevent Kmiec from speaking at the seminary? Mahony won't want to stop Kmiec from speaking, but he (Mahony) is also keeping a low profile on account of the priest scandals. This particulat seminary spawned a few homosexual priests; I think Mahony won't want attention called to it.
Why wait. That piece of excrement is stinking up the church.
Inviting him to speak at a Catholic seminary is simply outrageous, but very little surprises me anymore in Cardinal Mahony's archdiocese.
“Kmiek should be excommunicated!”
He already may be but doesn’t realize it yet.
Catholics are responsible for this nutcase.
Hope they enjoy the social liberalism that’s coming- especially abortion on demand.
The demons are active in the Catholic church and have been for quite some time. Apparently, Kmiec is just one more example. We have some brave and faithful Catholics who are fighting against the subversion of our doctrine including popes and bishops. Supporting any democrat given their hard line stance on abortion is indefensible. The former St. Louis Archbishop, Raymond L. Burke, publicly declared that the Democratic Party risks transforming itself definitely into a party of death. It is the Party of Death. There is no ambiguity here. No one who voted for Obama or any other Democrat (even if pro-life) is serious about ending abortion. As long as democrats hold majorities in Congress and state legislatures, abortion will thrive.
“If Barak signs FOCA Kmiek should be excommunicated!”
He already excommunicated himself.
As long as people want to have sex and not have children, abortion will thrive.
You have put your finger on the real problem. The West has become hostile to procreation. That is why it is being overrun.
I think it's more than that - the West has become hostile to life in general, life as it really is. I hate to say "we," because it annoys me when people "we" and I don't think it includes me :-), so "a significant element in our society" seems only to want the kind of life that can't be achieved without dreadful inhumanity: a life in which sex doesn't make babies; people don't become old, sick or incapacitated; a spouse is never unsatisfactory; "somebody" provides exactly what we want without an inconvenient level of effort.
If one can get life to work that way, one doesn't need God, but can imagine oneself as God.
Excellent post. You’ve worded it exactly as it is.
You just helped elect an abortionist, infanticidal communist megalomaniac to the Presidency of the US>
Hang your head in shame.
Shut up, go away, and pray fervently that God grant you the grace of repentance and conversion.
Right now, Doug, you are headed for Hell.
Thanks! I try to think things through to their most basic concepts, and what I see is a deeply-felt rejection of the simple reality of being human.
They have been giving scandal for far too long.
Kmiec is seizing the bishops’ teaching authority - and they’re letting him (along with Biden and Pelosi) get away with it. Until they stand up on their hind legs and excommunicate somebody, they’ll remain pathetically useless.
We may yet see such things. The moral voices of the bishops are strengthening.
The bishops did not let either Biden or Pelosi get away with it. They immediately made strong statements to refute the politicians’ erroneous (immoral) positions.
Thought this might interest you.
And then what happened?
They can make all the statements they want. Words are meaningless - in fact, Pelosi’s bishop didn’t even really say much, just said he’d “talk to her” later. To my knowledge, he hasn’t done this. Or maybe he called her to congratulate her on Obama’s election.
Yup... he’s guilty of materially cooperating in evil as well as scandal. Nice bit of work for your 15 minutes of fame, Mr. Kmiec...
Kmiec is a swine.
Hope he got a good deal from the anti-Christ. Hope he enjoys the rest of this life.
The next one might not be so promising.
Can’t he find Vicki Gene Robinson’s phone number and “transition” to a “Church” that’s more his style?
For a lawyer Kmiec seems unaware of the law he is talking about. It ties the hands of every state and local government, to the extent of making its hard for local authorities to hold abortion clinics to the same sanitary standards as ordinary clinics. The slightest restrictiono “the right.” is opposed by the pro-abortionists. They hate the comparism with slavery, but no other “right.” has enjoyed as much protection by the Constitution as abortion. Common sense exceptions to freedom of religion, speech or peaveble assembly are allowed by the Courts, but nothing comparable is found for the abortion right. Under our cours, the right to life is negotiable, but th right to death is absolute.
Who runs this seminary? Who’s the rector. We should all protest to the Vatican that a Catholic professor who support the pro-abortion candidate is speaking there. What kind of a message is this to priests in training?????
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