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Michigan liberals attack Lansing congregation in the middle of Sunday worship
Right Michigan ^ | Nov 10, 2008 | Nick

Posted on 11/10/2008 12:30:55 PM PST by IronKros

This is what we're up against.

On Sunday morning, amidst worshiping congregants and following unifying prayers that our President-elect be granted wisdom as he prepares to lead our nation through difficult global, social and economic challenges, the Michigan left declared open war on peaceful church goers.

They did it with banners, chants, blasphemy, by storming the pulpit, by vandalizing the church facility, by potentially defiling the building with lude, public, sex acts and by intentionally forcing physical confrontations with worshipers.

This didn't take place in some dystopian, post modern work of fiction and it didn't take place in San Francisco or Berkley. This was the scene at a Bible believing church in Lansing, Michigan.

Read on...

I returned home myself yesterday, from church and an afternoon watching football with the family, to find an email in my inbox from a friend in the Capitol City. Isn't surprising to see her name in the inbox as she and I often compare notes on our Sunday services.

Truth be told, I've done my best over the last year to start a friendly little rivalry with her. My church is better than hers, I insist, and I have been known to tell her why. Hers is superior to mine, she reminds me, and lists the reasons. (I admit I'm maybe a tad hyper-competitive, but my church really is the best in the world.) Yesterday's email began with an understated proclamation; "So church today was exciting..."

On Sunday, November 9, 2008 Michigan liberals sat peacefully through announcements, worship and prayer for the sick, our nation and our President-elect before staging a coordinated, disgusting and repulsive attack on worshipers and the broader concept of the church itself at Lansing's Mount Hope Church.

The lefties were a part of a liberal organization known as Bash Back Lansing and their collection of radical blogs, including one of the state's most widely read "mainstream" progressive blogs (and none which will receive a link on this website) called on "queers and trannies" from across the state and the region to converge on Lansing for what they refer to as an "action." While many of the members claim to be anarchists (they drove on roads, ate non-garden grown foods, printed materials on products created by government protected free markets, wore clothing, talk incessantly about "organization," etc etc etc) their broader goal is stated plainly on one of their lefty blogs.

"I can tell you that we are targeting a well-known anti-queer, anti-choice radical right wing establishment."

Mount Hope, for the record, is an evangelical, bible believing church whose members provide free 24 hour counseling, prayer lines, catastrophic care for families dealing with medical emergencies, support groups for men, women and children dealing with a wide variety of life's troubles, crisis intervention, marriage ministries, regular, organized volunteer work in and around the city, missions in dozens of countries across the globe, a construction ministry that has built over 100 churches, schools, orphanages and other projects all over the world and an in-depth prison ministry that reaches out, touches and helps the men and women the rest of society fears the most. They also teach respect for all human life and the Biblical sanctity of marriage as an institution between one man and one woman.

This is what Michigan liberals label a "radical right wing establishment," and over 30 of them showed up in force yesterday. Wearing secret-service style ear pieces and microphones they received the "go" from their ringleader and off they went.

Prayer had just finished when men and women stood up in pockets across the congregation, on the main floor and in the balcony. "Jesus was gay," they shouted among other profanities and blasphemies as they rushed the stage. Some forced their way through rows of women and kids to try to hang a profane banner from the balcony while others began tossing fliers into the air. Two women made their way to the pulpit and began to kiss.

Their other props? I'll let them tell you in their own words... from another of their liberal blogs:

"(A) video camera, a megaphone, noise makers, condoms, glitter by the bucket load, confetti, pink fabric...yeh."

The video camera they put to good use as they attempted to provoke a violent reaction. The image of the pink-clad folks above is one of theirs, stating in a picture worth more than a thousand words the goals of the Michigan left.

The "open minded" and "tolerant" liberals ran down the aisles and across the pews, hoping against hope to catch a "right winger" on tape daring to push back (none did). And just in case their camera missed the target, they had a reporter in tow. According to a source inside the church yesterday there was a "journalist" from the Lansing City Pulse along for the ride, tipped off about the action and more interested in getting a story than in preventing the vandalism, the violence and anti-Christian hatred being spewed by the lefties. We'll see what he files and what his editors see fit to print.

Props were readily on display too, though some of the condoms may have been put to even more nefarious use.

An hour after police and security had collected and removed who they thought were the last of the liberals, a volunteer security person discovered two more, hiding, together, in a public restroom. While their compatriots engaged in openly violent protest in front of everyone these two snuck away to potentially stage their own protest of sorts, and only by the grace of God did one of the hundreds of kids at the church not happen upon that particular restroom in those moments. Precisely how long they'd been there and precisely what they'd been up to we don't know.

The church's response? After things settled down, the blasphemy ended, the lude props removed and the families safe from fear of additional men and women running into and past them the pastor took the stage and led the congregation in one more prayer... not for retribution, or divine justice or a celestial comeuppance (that's what I'd have prayed for) but instead that the troubled individuals who'd just defiled the Lord's house, so full of anger and hate, would know Jesus' love in their lives and God's peace that exceeds human understanding.

Yesterday morning defined the difference between a church of believers and Michigan liberals. It also illustrated in shocking, painful detail precisely what we're up against.


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: aclumia; antichrists; ca; culturewar; gaystapotactics; homosexualagenda; liberalbigots; moralabsolutes; ratcrime; ratcrimr; rathate
those evil Christians must be stopped < /sarcasm>
1 posted on 11/10/2008 12:30:56 PM PST by IronKros
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To: IronKros
the Michigan left declared open war on peaceful church goers. They did it with banners, chants, blasphemy, by storming the pulpit, by vandalizing the church facility, by potentially defiling the building with lude, public, sex acts and by intentionally forcing physical confrontations with worshipers

SO where is the ACLU to (A) defend the right of those peacefully gathering to worship and (B) to litigate against those who are bringing politics into church in violation of the ACLU's claim for "a separation between Church and State". Keep your STATE out of the Church.

2 posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:28 PM PST by weegee (Global Warming Change? Fight Global Socialist CHANGE.)
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To: IronKros

Sounds to me like the worshipers civil rights have been violated. Let those idiot protesters try this in a mosque and see what happens.


3 posted on 11/10/2008 12:38:07 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: IronKros

Digusting.


4 posted on 11/10/2008 12:38:20 PM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: IronKros

Do you have other links about this?

I just think if this really happened, you would have a lot of information about it on the web.

I’m only getting the run hit on it.


5 posted on 11/10/2008 12:39:05 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: Dallas59

They are filth!


6 posted on 11/10/2008 12:40:13 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: IronKros

The Bible says that in the end times People will kill Christians in the streets and They will believe they are doing good when they kill Christians....

how far away can it be judging from this article?

Christians are murdered and persecuted all over the World today...and Now it is begining in America.

They are Lawless, and God Haters.......
This is the begining of the End Times.


7 posted on 11/10/2008 12:40:29 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: IronKros

Another Obama “get in their face” moment..


8 posted on 11/10/2008 12:40:51 PM PST by vietvet67
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To: Jack Black

CW II ping.


9 posted on 11/10/2008 12:41:51 PM PST by Lurker (Thank you Governor Palin. It's not your fault. You got shackled to the worst Pub since Ford.)
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To: grellis

ping


10 posted on 11/10/2008 12:42:11 PM PST by magslinger (If you take my gun from me, mind the barrel. It will be hot.)
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To: IronKros

Do you have other links about this?

I just think if this really happened, you would have a lot of information about it on the web.

I’m only getting the one hit on it.


11 posted on 11/10/2008 12:45:13 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

Asking for a legitimate source seems reasonable enough.


12 posted on 11/10/2008 12:45:31 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: IronKros
Mount Hope Church website
13 posted on 11/10/2008 12:46:00 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: IronKros

This is a hate crime (inciting to riot, so the “definition” goes . . . ). They should be prosecuted, but the Christians will be told to show some tolerance for these people, and to just move along, as in “can’t we just get past this?”


14 posted on 11/10/2008 12:46:50 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, he-he, ho-ho!)
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To: luckystarmom

It was listed on Drudge, but I do not see it anymore.


15 posted on 11/10/2008 12:46:51 PM PST by IronKros (The pig put foot. Grunt. Foot in what? ketchup)
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To: IronKros

Defending themselves would be a bad thing? What’s going on???


16 posted on 11/10/2008 12:47:36 PM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: IronKros

It seems like the church would talk about it. Strange.


17 posted on 11/10/2008 12:48:28 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: IronKros

It’d be fun to see this happen in my church. Our pastor would probably bust a few heads himself.


18 posted on 11/10/2008 12:52:38 PM PST by PeterFinn (Joe Biden for President)
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To: IronKros
"hoping against hope to catch a "right winger" on tape daring to push back (none did)."

Shame on them. Should have been tar & feather time.

19 posted on 11/10/2008 12:53:23 PM PST by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: IronKros
Never mind, it was sent by a friend. It was not on Drudge.

He said he got it from a twitter.
20 posted on 11/10/2008 1:02:10 PM PST by IronKros (The pig put foot. Grunt. Foot in what? ketchup)
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To: IronKros

These guys are so far out out there you can’t really call them liberals. I would guess that even 99.9999 percent of liberals disapprove of this kind of crap.

BTW, someone should let the author know that he wants the word “lewd” not “lude.”


21 posted on 11/10/2008 1:03:23 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: IronKros

It would be nice if there was a news outlet reporting this and not just a blog?

Why hasn’t any media outlet picked this up?

nothing in the Lansing paper?


22 posted on 11/10/2008 1:03:56 PM PST by Rightly Biased (McCain is the reason Sarah Lost <><)
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To: LtKerst

“how far away can it be judging from this article?

Christians are murdered and persecuted all over the World today...and Now it is begining in America.”

Disgusting as these people are, all I see is 30 nuts who belong to an organization that’s so far out there, you can’t call it liberal or anything else definable. I don’t see where they killed anybody, and the police came and arrested them. (I’m assuming all the info is accurate, although that might be a bad assumption.)


23 posted on 11/10/2008 1:06:55 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: IronKros

All I can say is arm yourselves. The lunatic left has been greatly emboldened and who knows where this is going.


24 posted on 11/10/2008 1:10:58 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: luckystarmom
What surprises me is that Mount Hope Church (self described as "the church with all the flags") caught the attention of the moonbats. They are a mega church and I had thought they were too bland and all inclusive to get this kind of attention from the leftists, this soon, at any rate.

They do put on well produced pageants at Easter and Christmas. My daughter saw their Passion play and thought it was excellent. I haven't been, yet, but I am now planning on going to both this year.

25 posted on 11/10/2008 1:16:03 PM PST by magslinger (If you take my gun from me, mind the barrel. It will be hot.)
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To: IronKros

My solution to this sort of thing would have the following features:
Encourage attendance by combat trained non-members
Lock and guard all doors if riot breaks out. No entry or exit.
Peacefully disable all recording devices.
Have all members insert ear plugs.
Increase volume on sound systen to a really uncomfortable level
Allow rioting to conclude
Call 9-1-1 to have rioters removed
Begin lawsuits against all rioters
Make sure the public knows the identity of rioters


26 posted on 11/10/2008 1:20:15 PM PST by whipitgood (Real Americans don't allow socialists to take over their country.)
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To: gracesdad
Disgusting as these people are, all I see is 30 nuts who belong to an organization that’s so far out there, you can’t call it liberal or anything else definable. I don’t see where they killed anybody, and the police came and arrested them. (I’m assuming all the info is accurate, although that might be a bad assumption.)

Today it's 30 nuts, but can you fathom this happening 20 years ago? It's a trend, a direction, and sadly a harbinger of things to come. This country has been trying to shove God aside for the past 40 years. A week ago, the God-haters got a huge shot of boldness dumped on them since they now feel like they're in control of the country and it's time to go on a more aggressive offensive.

Today, it's 30 nuts, but what will it look like in a decade?

MM (in TX)

28 posted on 11/10/2008 1:31:19 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: IronKros

They might get more than they bargain for if they try that in a Southern church, especially Texas!


29 posted on 11/10/2008 1:32:21 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: 6SJ7
Let those idiot protesters try this in a mosque and see what happens.

Targets of opportunity my man. They don't have the balls to try that at a mosque.

30 posted on 11/10/2008 1:38:10 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Peace means one guy has a bigger stick than the other guy.)
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To: 6SJ7
Let those idiot protesters try this in a mosque and see what happens.

Targets of opportunity my man. They don't have the balls to try that at a mosque.

31 posted on 11/10/2008 1:38:10 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Peace means one guy has a bigger stick than the other guy.)
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To: IronKros
An hour after police and security had collected and removed who they thought were the last of the liberals...

If the police were called, why isn't this even in a local newspaper? I can't find any other corroborations for this story.
32 posted on 11/10/2008 1:42:10 PM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: longhorn too

Yep, especially if it’s a cowboy church. And that’s not a role-playing thing, either.


33 posted on 11/10/2008 1:43:16 PM PST by texas_mrs
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To: theKid51; Apple Blossom; ourusa

ping


34 posted on 11/10/2008 1:44:58 PM PST by bmwcyle (Primary support for McCain and Huck showed complete stupidity)
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To: IronKros

The police are also the enemy folks since they will not protect you from these liberals and they will arrest you for defending yourself. Just remember this.

JoMa


35 posted on 11/10/2008 2:11:17 PM PST by joma89
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

This happened right here in my town, but this is the first I am hearing of it...and words fail me.

36 posted on 11/10/2008 5:51:05 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: IronKros
According to a source inside the church yesterday there was a "journalist" from the Lansing City Pulse along for the ride, tipped off about the action and more interested in getting a story than in preventing the vandalism, the violence and anti-Christian hatred being spewed by the lefties.

The publisher/editor chief is a neighbor of mine. Two of the LCP regular contributors also live in my hood. Can't wait to discuss this with them.

37 posted on 11/10/2008 5:53:36 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: luckystarmom; IronKros
There is absolutely no report of this on ANY local news outlet, from yesterday or today. Nothing.

I think this is a "piece of Glass." I'll call Eaton County dispatch in the morning, but I'm betting this is fabrication.

38 posted on 11/10/2008 6:06:13 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: grellis

It looks like it is true, but the MSM was slow to report it.

Very scary!


39 posted on 11/10/2008 6:42:42 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: MississippiMan

“Today it’s 30 nuts, but can you fathom this happening 20 years ago? It’s a trend, a direction, and sadly a harbinger of things to come. This country has been trying to shove God aside for the past 40 years.”

Don’t know. Does this count?

“The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing was a racially motivated terrorist attack on September 15, 1963 by members of a Ku Klux Klan group in Birmingham, Alabama in the United States. The bombing of the African-American church resulted in the deaths of four girls.”

Places of worship (churches, synagogues, mosques) have been attacked and vandalized for thousands of years. This is bad, but it’s nothing new. If you have evidence it’s new, please provide.


40 posted on 11/10/2008 6:51:22 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: joma89

“The police are also the enemy folks since they will not protect you from these liberals and they will arrest you for defending yourself. Just remember this.”

So I need to start shooting cops?

You’re obviously oblivious. Nighty, night.


41 posted on 11/10/2008 6:53:24 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: IronKros

I wouldn’t suggest they try that in Texas.


42 posted on 11/11/2008 8:49:15 AM PST by PAR35
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To: gracesdad
Places of worship (churches, synagogues, mosques) have been attacked and vandalized for thousands of years. This is bad, but it’s nothing new. If you have evidence it’s new, please provide.

Thanks for the response. Your example is entirely different, and here's how: Black churches were attacked not because they were churches, but because they were black.

And while churches/synagogues/mosques have been attacked through history, they have not been regularly attacked in our country because of their Christian beliefs. I believe this is a harbinger of things to come.

MM (in TX)

43 posted on 11/11/2008 8:51:55 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: IronKros; luckystarmom; Mr. Lucky; Rightly Biased; grellis
It made the Lansing Journal today: Gay rights group claims responsibility for church protest

And a link to where this is being discussed in the religion fourm: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2130137/posts

44 posted on 11/11/2008 9:41:52 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: IronKros
Also here is a link to what what Bash Back it reporting on this Bash Back! Raises Hell at Anti-Queer Mega-Church
45 posted on 11/11/2008 9:49:57 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: grellis
It's true. I have an old aquaintance who goes to this church (and I helped him put a seminar on there one time), who mentioned it a few days ago on a private mail list. You think the Hate Media is going to cover this much?

I just hope and pray some of these clowns become convicted in their hearts and realize the absolute folly of their actions and beliefs. Their behavior is not the behavior of the side that has Truth and Love on its side.

46 posted on 11/11/2008 10:09:50 AM PST by Liberty1970 (Mainstream media is not mainstream. Call it what it is: Hate Media.)
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To: IronKros
A related story: Gay anarchist 'action' hits church (pics)
48 posted on 11/11/2008 10:43:06 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: All

Do not use potty language - or references to potty language - on the Religion Forum.


49 posted on 11/11/2008 10:54:19 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: magslinger
What surprises me is that Mount Hope Church (self described as "the church with all the flags") caught the attention of the moonbats.

Mt Hope has long been a target of moonbats. ask around lansing, there's a lot of people that have been made to believe its a cult, not a church.
50 posted on 11/12/2008 4:10:44 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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