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Pastor Rick Warren on the Economy, Election
Fox News ^ | 11/12/2008 | Hannity & Colmes

Posted on 11/12/2008 1:26:52 PM PST by Alex Murphy

WARREN: Well, that's the — the answer to getting us out of this economic crisis, no doubt about it, is wealth creation, Sean. We — we tend to go to one of the two extremes. The pendulum goes back and forth. You know, America tends to have an economic crisis about every 20 years.

In the 1930s, we decided that markets didn't work and we needed big government. And then in the '70s we decided that government didn't work. We needed free markets. And now we see this trend going back the other way. But the truth is there are two pendulums.

On one side is what I call wealth monopolization, which is some of the excesses of Wall Street. When you've got a guy who creates $200 million, he makes $200 million in a week and really didn't create anything for the society, there's a real problem there.

But then we swing it over to the other, which is wealth redistribution.

WARREN: The answer is neither wealth redistribution nor wealth monopolization. It's wealth creation. The answer is jobs.

WARREN: One of the big components that people don't talk about is that America has given up on the idea of living within its means.

WARREN: Well, I don't see — what I'd rather do is instead of the government taxing us and giving the money away to worthy causes. I'd rather let to have the government let us keep it and then you'd learn to give it away yourself, because then you get the credit and then you get the character development and then you get the heart of generosity.

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bho2008; ca2008; christianvote; richwarren; saddleback
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1 posted on 11/12/2008 1:26:52 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Warren should stick to presenting the Gospel of Jesus Christ for salvation — if he still remembers how to do it....


2 posted on 11/12/2008 1:31:38 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Alex Murphy

I’ve never like these Televangelist kind of guys anyway.


3 posted on 11/12/2008 1:33:28 PM PST by ForbesFan
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To: ForbesFan

As a Baptist Pastor, Rick continues to “Jump the Shark”! Anytime you think you are bigger than God, you fall, been there done that!


4 posted on 11/12/2008 1:35:10 PM PST by DocJ69
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To: Alex Murphy

Pastor Warren is a very charitable man, but I believe his church offers a watered-down version of “seeker-sensitive” Christianity.

They cancelled their Sunday evening services for the Super Bowl this past year. To me, that is ridiculous. Some Christians may find it more important to honor God than watch football.

I did enjoy his Presidential Forum, though. Much better than the debates.


5 posted on 11/12/2008 1:36:51 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Alex Murphy
Well, I don't see — what I'd rather do is instead of the government taxing us and giving the money away to worthy causes. I'd rather let to have the government let us keep it and then you'd learn to give it away yourself, because then you get the credit and then you get the character development and then you get the heart of generosity.

Well, he's reaching the right conclusion, but if he actually believes that the government is giving money away to worthy causes from a Christian standpoint, he's worse than naive. No mention of God in there, either. I suspect Rick Warren is more interested in power and fame, but would love to be wrong about that.

6 posted on 11/12/2008 1:37:34 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Star Traveler

So we know his views on the economy.

Mmmm...what about election? :^)


7 posted on 11/12/2008 1:44:22 PM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: DocJ69

Yeah, these guys egos just get way too big for my taste.


8 posted on 11/12/2008 1:47:09 PM PST by ForbesFan
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To: Alex Murphy

In this conversation, he’s talking politics. I don’t hear anything particularly to disagree with. He’s for wealth creation and private initiative rather than government management of the economy.


9 posted on 11/12/2008 1:55:09 PM PST by marron
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To: Alex Murphy

The typical Obama evangelical would be concerned that the government wasn’t doing enough in terms of social programs. Thats clearly not Warren’s view. He sounds like a Republican. As a pastor he may register “independent” but his economics is Republican.


10 posted on 11/12/2008 1:57:35 PM PST by marron
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To: Alex Murphy

It is easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than a pastor to explain economics.


11 posted on 11/12/2008 2:13:42 PM PST by durasell
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To: Alex Murphy

In a market economy, the only way to make $200 million is to produce $200 million worth of wealth. Somebody get this guy an economics primer.


12 posted on 11/12/2008 2:15:26 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: Alex Murphy
Pastor Rick Warren on the Economy, Election

Out of his depth. His opinions on this are no more worth paying attention to than mine.

He's being asked these questions why?

13 posted on 11/12/2008 3:20:23 PM PST by Lee N. Field (a dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Lee N. Field
He's being asked these questions why?

Zondervan (Warren's PDL publisher) and Fox News are both owned by Rupert Murdoch. Rick's "interview with the candidates" wound up placing him on the wrong side of the election results, i.e., in the McCain camp. Note that, in this new interview, Sean Hannity makes a number of shameless plugs for PDL and for Warren himself. My guess is that someone in Murdoch, Inc decided that the sagging Rick Warren francise needed a little reinventing.

PDL - book sales are down
Saddleback Church - growth is down
Painful Decline - Purpose Driven Ministries, after layoffs, "really doesn't really exist anymore"

14 posted on 11/12/2008 3:33:46 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Alex Murphy
The side of capitalism that no one seems to understand is that people get rich. Some get very rich.

Get used to it, it is good for everyone.

schu

15 posted on 11/12/2008 3:51:50 PM PST by schu
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To: schu
The side of capitalism that no one seems to understand is that people get rich.
"I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away."
- Luke 19:26

"You shall remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you power to get wealth..."
- Deuteronomy 8:18


16 posted on 11/12/2008 3:58:54 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Alex Murphy
Snagged this from the web somewhere:

**** What profit has the worker from that in which he labors? 10 I have seen the God-given task with which the sons of men are to be occupied. 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end. 12 I know that nothing is better for them than to rejoice, and to do good in their lives, 13 and also that every man should eat and drink and enjoy the good of all his labor—it is the gift of God.

Ecclesiastes 3:9-13 NKJV

Solomon, the wisest man who ever lived, made the observation in the book of Ecclesiastes that nothing is better for us than to rejoice, and to do good in our lives. He also says that it is the gift of God for every man and woman to eat and drink and enjoy the good of all their labor. According to this - God wants us to enjoy our lives.

**** schu

17 posted on 11/12/2008 4:27:38 PM PST by schu
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