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To: magisterium; Alex Murphy
I suspect, but certainly cannot prove, that many bishops have the wool pulled over their eyes as to the real motivations behind CCHP and its beneficiaries.

I doubt this. It seems apparent that as long as a "social justice" organization stays away from abortion they will get their support. The problem the bishops are finding is that once the congregation has been infected with this "social justice" thinking the congregation won't listen to them on other issues. It was evident in this last election.

If so, maybe next year we can celebrate the liquidation (or at least the complete severing of ties with the Catholic Church) of this odious coven of evildoers.

Not likely, conservatives are a minority in the RCC.

If it's any consolation, conservatives are not nearly the majority in Evangelical churches as they once were.

17 posted on 11/21/2008 7:29:25 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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To: wmfights
Don't doubt it. Most bishops seem to think that outfits like CCHD really are helping the poor. They might be more warm and fuzzy about it than the conservative members of their flocks, but it seems clear that many of them do not know the extent of the subterfuge agenda that underlies much of the money they contribute to these kinds of organizations. They're kind of naive, really.

Though certainly not all of them. I don't deny that some of the bishops are knowlingly complicit in the CCHD agenda. And there are even a few who are openly opposed to it. But the majority fill-in the complacent role and just go along.

The tapdancing with the Democrats is slowly coming to an end, as the bishops see how they've been used, misued, and abused over the years, and the lefties will stomp on them over abortion and other "life issues." The enabling organizations, such as CCHD, that have hung on the Dems' coattails for years will also fall out of favor at about the same time. Unfortunately, the greater portion of the current crop of bishops over 55 or so are not the brightest bulbs on the tree (having been largely nominated by Archbishop Jean Jadot, who really was something of a true-believing Leftist operative), so they'll have to learn the hard way. But they will learn.

18 posted on 11/21/2008 8:36:12 AM PST by magisterium
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To: wmfights
Not likely, conservatives are a minority in the RCC.

Sorry, I forgot this part. I would say this is incorrect. Simply because it is true that, if you discount "Christmas and Easter" Catholics, "Cafeteria Catholics" and the like from the mix, you will find that those who are left - actual "practicing Catholics," are much more likely to be conservative politically than their name-only confreres.

I would say that this is the basis for a fair comparison. Certainly, there are millions of name-only and lapsed members of just about any major denomination in this country; lumping them into the mix would yield similar accusations of "liberal tendencies" in just about all of the denominations they represent. Yet the media and pollsters convieniently find other labels for them, and fail to make the distinction for Catholics. Similarly, among those who say they're still believers, they make distinctions for ethnic subsets within non-Catholic ranks that they categorically refuse to do within Catholic ranks. Case in point: a large percentage of blacks in this country are churchgoers, yet they, as a group, voted for Obama at rates exceeding 95%. They are never lumped-in with the evangelical or fundamentalist Christian groups they belong to, for purposes of political polling. Yet, Hispanic Catholics, who voted for Obama at an 80% rate or so, get counted twice. Their voting trends are referenced within the Hispanic mantle, and, in other polls, they find themselves lumped-in with Catholics in general when the "Catholic vote" is dealt with by pollsters.

I would file this "Catholic Vote" business under Looks Can Be Deceiving.

20 posted on 11/21/2008 8:50:30 AM PST by magisterium
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