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FReep this Poll (Catholics and Yeah, Come On, Everybody Else)
Catholics United Against Catholicism ^ | November 22, 2008 | "Catholics" "United"

Posted on 11/22/2008 4:56:25 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

Catholics and, for the love of God, everybody else, please FReep this poll.

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1548/t/286/survey.jsp?survey_KEY=179

Catholics United is the front group that organized Catholics for Obama. The organizers, Chris Korzen and James Salt, are veterans of Catholics for Kerry, and literally never saw a pro-abort Catholic they didn't try to paint haloes and auras around.

They make very clever use of Catholic symbols, documents and God-talk to promote their Kmiec-style deviationism.

In this poll I'm asking you to FReep, they want feedback on what their lobbying priorities ought to be. Check "common-ground ways to reduce abortions." What they mean by that? Who knows? But I'd like them to be challenged to make that their far-and-away highest priority. Let's try to get it stratospherically high. Just to see.


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: judas; obamanoids; phonycatholic; proaborts
Please ping this around to pro-life FReepers of any denomination.
1 posted on 11/22/2008 4:56:26 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Done! Good luck with this. These people are just awful. They don’t follow the teachings of the Church.


2 posted on 11/22/2008 5:02:13 PM PST by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Salvation; cpforlife.org; dynachrome; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Coleus; cgk; MHGinTN; NYer; ...

Ping-a-ling. You might also want to join them in order to comment on their blog, if you can stand it. (I have a hard time controlling my anger, but I guess sometimes that’s what one has to do.)


3 posted on 11/22/2008 5:05:06 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ping to check out later


4 posted on 11/22/2008 5:05:36 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good grief! What choices! The only thing the Catholic Church (my church) should be preaching about from that list is anti-abortion. At least IMHO!


5 posted on 11/22/2008 5:05:44 PM PST by basil (Support the 2nd Amendment--buy another gun today)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I would bet all my prayer cards that “Common ground abortion reduction initiatives” means handling out birth control pills to teenage girls and teaching kindergartners how to put prophylactics on vegetables. What a rotten group.
6 posted on 11/22/2008 5:07:59 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: Mrs. Don-o

done, good heads-up.


7 posted on 11/22/2008 5:08:38 PM PST by RGPII (I wouldn't want to be bothered by an illegal president.)
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To: Nihil Obstat

Yeah, even their “anti-abortion” line isn’t. “common ground abortion reduction” is a code word for keeping abortion legal and pretending that you hope that the number of abortions goes down.


8 posted on 11/22/2008 6:00:13 PM PST by mhx
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To: All

Will do.


9 posted on 11/22/2008 6:39:01 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I voted: even if some of these issues are pending, Good Gosh! Health Care over the Rights of the Unborn and really, as I read someone say in a blog, the unborn to be shredded and vacuumed out, excuse me, these people who vote for some of these other issues just have dark dark souls themselves and should examine if they are Catholics and their consciences I say in a non-judgmental way. Let them


10 posted on 11/22/2008 6:49:01 PM PST by RGPII (I wouldn't want to be bothered by an illegal president.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Click here.
11 posted on 11/22/2008 7:41:19 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Let's make the common ground for abortion part of the pie the biggest of all.

Survey Results


12 posted on 11/22/2008 7:42:06 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: narses; little jeremiah; wagglebee

Ping!


13 posted on 11/22/2008 7:43:11 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: cpforlife.org

Ping!


14 posted on 11/22/2008 7:43:26 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

15 posted on 11/22/2008 8:37:56 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...

Survey Results


16 posted on 11/22/2008 8:53:22 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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To: Coleus; Volunteer; narses; Salvation; little jeremiah; wagglebee; Mrs. Don-o; RGPII; mhx; ...

If it doesn’t let you vote more than once just empty your temporary internet files or cache and you can vote all night.

2 in


17 posted on 11/22/2008 9:02:19 PM PST by fishhound (Church, guns, a fishing rod and a hat light.)
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To: Coleus; narses; Salvation; little jeremiah; wagglebee; Mrs. Don-o; RGPII; mhx; Nihil Obstat; ...

Over the top! Check the votes.

It may be that these people would include abortion as part of their idea of health care. So they are contradictory as well.


18 posted on 11/22/2008 10:22:42 PM PST by fishhound (Church, guns, a fishing rod and a hat light.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
FReeped! (By an Everybody Else Evangelical)
19 posted on 11/23/2008 12:22:54 AM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: Fichori

They woke up today as a new ProLife group. lol


20 posted on 11/23/2008 3:56:43 AM PST by fishhound (Church, guns, a fishing rod and a hat light.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I voted. I don’t think it will do any good but I voted!


21 posted on 11/23/2008 5:13:27 AM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: fishhound
"If it doesn’t let you vote more than once just empty your temporary internet files or cache and you can vote all night.

For the sake of the Cyber-Klutzes among us (myself first and foremost) please post and tell us how to do that.

22 posted on 11/23/2008 6:49:19 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: don-o; tutstar; WKB; DaveLoneRanger; Gamecock; Tax-chick; nobdysfool; CT-Freeper; TonyRo76; ...

Ping Promiscuously.


23 posted on 11/23/2008 6:56:46 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ping Promiscuously.

In front of all these people!?!

24 posted on 11/23/2008 6:58:26 AM PST by Tax-chick (You can run from yourself, but you won't get very far.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Okay, I voted - even though everything in their “common ground abortion reduction initiatives” plan is probably immoral, proven ineffective, or both.


25 posted on 11/23/2008 7:01:27 AM PST by Tax-chick (You can run from yourself, but you won't get very far.)
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To: Tax-chick
Thank you for your public promiscuity.

Yeah, I know their "common ground" thing probably means condomizing the boys and hormally neutering the girls, or some damned thing. But I want them to think "What next? Do they expect us to fight FOCA?"

Yes.

And I want them to know the prolifers are watching them.

As I am. With my flaming Sauron eye.

26 posted on 11/23/2008 7:18:55 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Promoting homosexuality is a “commonsense” way to reduce abortion, too ... can’t make a baby without one of each sex!

Anyway, a round of applause to you for your vigilance, and I’d better go get dressed before someone sees me in this holey nightgown :-).


27 posted on 11/23/2008 7:22:02 AM PST by Tax-chick (You can run from yourself, but you won't get very far.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

From their MySpace Page, just so everyone knows...

Catholics United Responds to Allegations Made by Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput
Catholics United executive director Chris Korzen issued the following statement today in response to Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput’s accusation that Catholics United has “done a disservice to the Church, confused the natural priorities of Catholic social teaching, undermined the progress pro-lifers have made, and provided an excuse for some Catholics to abandon the abortion issue instead of fighting within their parties and at the ballot box to protect the unborn.” The archbishop’s comments were delivered at an Educating on the Nature and Dignity of Women dinner in Denver on October 17, 2008.

“Catholics United welcomes an open, honest, and productive dialogue about how best to represent the values of the our faith in public life. We recognize that Catholics can differ in good conscience about which policies will achieve the most effective results, even on issues as important as abortion. We are concerned that Archbishop Chaput’s comments – even those made in his personal capacity – will have a chilling effect on this dialogue. It is also profoundly unfortunate that Archbishop Chaput has chosen to make personal attacks on lay Catholics acting in good faith to promote Catholic values in the public square.”

“During the past eight years we have watched a president rise to power on a ‘pro-life’ platform only to pursue other priorities: perpetrating an unjust war, opposing expanded health care coverage for pregnant women and children, promoting the intrinsic evil of torture, deregulating the financial markets, and mortgaging the future of America’s hard-working families on tax cuts for the rich and powerful. Scant, if any, progress was made toward ending or reducing abortions – quite the contrary, we fear that the looming economic crisis will impel more women to have abortions as people lose their jobs and their homes. This experience serves as poignant reminder of the need for Catholics and other pro-life Americans to look beyond campaign rhetoric and elect candidates who will deliver real results on the issues that matter most.”

“With due respect to Archbishop Chaput, we believe that by pursuing efforts to de-polarize the abortion debate and bring Americans of varying ideological backgrounds to the table to find common ground solutions, organizations like Catholics United are doing at least as much to promote Church teaching on human life as those who have insisted on the same ineffective strategies of the past 35 years.”

(delusional)


28 posted on 11/23/2008 7:31:14 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

“Catholics United welcomes an open, honest, and productive dialogue about how best to represent the values of the our faith in public life.”

dialogue?

The guy doesn’t seem to get the fact that the Church is not a democracy.


29 posted on 11/23/2008 8:48:16 AM PST by fishhound (Church, guns, a fishing rod and a hat light.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hey,
They went thru and changed the voting results. Stripping out the newly minted ant-abortion vote.


30 posted on 11/23/2008 8:50:28 AM PST by fishhound (Church, guns, a fishing rod and a hat light.)
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To: don-o; tutstar; WKB; DaveLoneRanger; Gamecock; Tax-chick; nobdysfool; CT-Freeper; TonyRo76; ...

Hey,
They went thru and changed the voting results. Stripping out the newly minted ant-abortion vote.


31 posted on 11/23/2008 8:52:23 AM PST by fishhound (Church, guns, a fishing rod and a hat light.)
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To: fishhound

They wouldn’t be trying to skew the results in any way, would they? Surely not.


32 posted on 11/23/2008 9:24:09 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Recruit training at Parris Island from October 20)
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To: fishhound

There are fewer anti-abortion votes now then there were when I FReeped it the other day...


33 posted on 11/23/2008 11:27:43 AM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: fishhound
They woke up today as a new ProLife group.
It looks like they've managed to convince themselves it was all just a dream.
34 posted on 11/23/2008 11:30:11 AM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: fishhound; Mrs. Don-o; 2ndDivisionVet; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; AmericaUnite; ...
Thanks to Fishhound and Mrs.Don-o for the ping.

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

35 posted on 11/23/2008 4:59:30 PM PST by dynachrome (Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: fishhound

These people are schismatics. They are creating schism in the Church. They shouldn’t be getting communion or any other sacrament except reconciliation.


36 posted on 11/23/2008 5:30:42 PM PST by virgil
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To: theKid51

liberal RC ping


37 posted on 11/23/2008 5:32:59 PM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was not enough)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
More results -- time for everyone else to vote again.
38 posted on 11/23/2008 5:35:31 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

done.


39 posted on 11/23/2008 8:00:43 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

40 posted on 11/24/2008 3:44:12 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain had no honor when he failed to defend Sarah Palin, Leno was not enough)
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