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To: Gamecock

Actually, I think Warren handled it fairly well. He never did agree to anything but Jesus as the One Way. A lot of mega-church types would have folded.


13 posted on 12/09/2008 7:09:18 AM PST by Mr Rogers (And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way - Reagan)
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The truth is most likely no one will be saved on a 7 minute section of the Hainity and Homey show. He did sound weak, but that is a problem for most Evangelicals today. If you quote the Bible, they label you a zealot and never discuss the verse.( No one comes to the Father but through Me). If you act “tolerant” or “PC”, there is NO way to get God's message out. Your only choice is to tell them there is NONE good, no not one, and there is only One Savior to get to heaven. Then you spend the rest of the 6 minutes arguing. Colmes would have to hear the Holy Spirit call his name to be saved. God gives His Son His Bride. We only are charged with regurgitating the Gospel. We are of no use to God in the process of Salvation, lest we boast. He sends us to the Divine appointments and uses us for His purpose, but in reality He doesn't need us to accomplish His Will.

I just expected more from a pastor than that, but I haven't been impressed with most pastors and priests in a long time. Even Robertson, Falwell, and Hagee squirm and weasel when confronted with reading actual Bible verses. All of them have crawfished on abortion and homosexuality on national TV. If Warren keeps playing a pastor on TV, he too, will be destroyed. At some point he will be confronted with black and white, good and evil, right and wrong, and he will choose to ride the fence trying to help his book sales.

25 posted on 12/09/2008 7:41:17 AM PST by chuckles
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I’m no fan of Warren, but you are right. Joel Osteen would have blathered his ususal “I’m don’t know” version of the “gospel.”


27 posted on 12/09/2008 7:49:33 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Mr Rogers
Actually, I think Warren handled it fairly well. He never did agree to anything but Jesus as the One Way. A lot of mega-church types would have folded.

I came to a different conclusion.

As usual, Warren, as do most of the Mega-Church pastors in their effort to not offend anyone, turned the Gospel into a superficial and ineffective matter.

The following dialog goes a long way towards proving my point:

COLMES: ... can you find your way to heaven? Can you still be — go to the same place when it's all said and done?

WARREN: I'm not the authority on that, but I believe Jesus is. And everybody's betting their life on something. Jesus said, "I am the way." I'm betting that he's not a liar. I'm betting that he told the truth.


A preacher who was actually called of God to PREACH the gospel would have without equivocation, pointed Alan to Jesus as the ONLY access point to heaven and the Savior of the world.

Furthermore, you will notice, Warren made no mention of Repentence, and that is an integral part of the Gospel. Today's "non-offending" pastor/minister all too often downplay or outright ignore the role of Repentence in the salvation of man and Warren's approach includes this ommission as well.

While salvation is the gift of God it does not come without Repentence.
38 posted on 12/09/2008 8:20:09 AM PST by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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