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EWTN: Sunday Night: Live with Father Benedict Groeschel [prerecorded]
EWTN | December 13, 2008 | Incredulous Joe

Posted on 12/13/2008 2:04:30 AM PST by incredulous joe

I suppose this thread could get messy? I've not tried to post anything like it and not seen anyone else do likewise.

It is a prerecorded program of Fr. Benedict Groeschel's "Sunday Night Live" on EWTN. This particular program was broadcast last Sunday, December 7, 2008. At some point in the future, it might be interesting to stream the program in live forum, but I don't think that EWTN has streaming available yet.

Go to:

http://www.ewtn.com/podcast/index.asp

and select the MP3 button next to "Sunday Night: Live with Father Benedict Groeschel"

I usually podcast these programs and get around to listening to them later in the week. As things would have it that did not happen until yesterday(Friday).

As the length of time that these podcasts are available to listen to is limited ~ this broadcast will be replaced tomorrow evening or sometime Monday ~ if you'd care to listen to the broadcast you will need to do it today and tomorrow, unless you save the program to your hard drive.

I thought Groeschel's observations quite good. I was particularly interested in the first question of discussion in the broadcast, St. Joseph, wondered if anyone else might have some insights.

I suppose the thing to do in the future if, I would care to kick the SNL program around with other Catholics and Christians, is to post such a thread earlier in the week.

By the way, I don't know all the rules and protocol for Ecumenical threads. To me, a Catholic, the discussion would seem to be of interest to other Christians. I would simply ask that courtesy and "good faith" common sense during discussion be the rule the day.


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1 posted on 12/13/2008 2:04:31 AM PST by incredulous joe
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To: Salvation

Can I request a Catholic ping.

My guess is that a few Catholic FReepers have probably seen this broadcast. It might be interesting to get feedback.


2 posted on 12/13/2008 2:06:59 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
"The Epifania" by Michelangelo




3 posted on 12/13/2008 2:20:37 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe

Three Hail Mary’s , followed by the Lord’s Prayer and Our Father 10 times. AMEN


4 posted on 12/13/2008 2:22:12 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: incredulous joe

Saint T saved my life. God Bless. ST little flower, be my guide.


5 posted on 12/13/2008 2:27:27 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321


Therese ~ beloved in life, beautiful in death, beatified in Heaven
6 posted on 12/13/2008 2:51:17 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe

Therese save me from alcoholism.


7 posted on 12/13/2008 3:06:40 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: incredulous joe

Thank you for a beautiful image. It gives me hope. I am struggling with alcoholism and depression. St Theresa was my father’s saint.


8 posted on 12/13/2008 3:10:07 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321

God bless you. I’ll add you to my prayers. I know many who have suffered from both.

Contemplate on that beautiful face of the Little Flower.


9 posted on 12/13/2008 3:19:39 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
The individual questions of the program, transribed in the order they were presented.

1) The Bible does not provide much information about St. Joseph. There are speculations about his life and whether he was married before he became the husband of Our Blessed Mother, others speculate about whether or not he had children and just how old he was when he married the Blessed Mother? Does the Church have an official position on any of these?

2) Would you tell me how to enter the Catholic Church as an adult? I have heard of RCIA.

3) When Pope Benedict was in New York, he met with the representatives of other religions. Does this give the idea that one religion is as good as another? It makes me uncomfortable.

4) Knowing, as we do the harmful effects of smoking on the human body; is it a sin against the Fifth Commandment to smoke?

5) I was raised a Catholic. In my 19th year I began to feel uncomfortable while reciting the Creed during Mass and, at 20, I knew that I had serious doubt about the divine incarnation. I felt hypocritical when I joined in the Creed and so, with great anquish, I left the church I loved. I’ve always retained my belief in God. I now 59 years old and can neither affirm, nor deny the incarnation. Yet, I feel a strong pull from the Church to come back and this prompts 3 questions; 1) are some people more skeptical than others, by nature, concerning the miraculous 2) in your counseling works, do you find many Catholics who have serious doubts, yet continue to practice their faith? 3) What should I do about my lack of faith?

6) How can I avoid despair when I continue to live up to my promises and my commitments to God. I honestly commit myself to being a good man, but I seem to fall into sin again and again. Then I am ashamed to go back to God because I have failed him.

7) My Grandma is 94 and has colon cancer. The doctors say the treatments have a good chance of working. She say “She don’t want no more doctors messing with me. That she has lived a long time and wants to die. That blows my mind! What’s up with that line of thought?

8) Would you talk about the hypostatic union. I read in a book by C.S. Lewis that the Lord’s consciousness was always in the second person of the Holy Trinity. I have always believed that. Of course, I know that in his human nature he was like us in all things but sin. I’m certain you can make this much more clear.


10 posted on 12/13/2008 3:21:37 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
Question 5.1



Louis Pasteur ~ world class genius, Smart guy, faithful Catholic, scientist.
11 posted on 12/13/2008 3:25:58 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe


Einstein ~ and his quotes on the mysterious.

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." – Einstein

"To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms, this knowledge, this feeling, is at the centre of true religiousness." - Einstein


12 posted on 12/13/2008 3:28:10 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
Question 5.3



Fr. Benedict plugging his book. ;0)
13 posted on 12/13/2008 3:29:48 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
Question 6



St. Francis of Assisi ~ poor sinner
14 posted on 12/13/2008 3:31:19 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
Question 6



St. Theresa of Avila ~ Doctor of the Church
15 posted on 12/13/2008 3:32:43 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
Question 7



C.S. Lewis ~ Great mind, author, righteous English dude, famous smoker.


16 posted on 12/13/2008 3:34:16 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe
Question 7



Leo the Great, bringing it strong to Attila the Hun at the gates of Rome!


17 posted on 12/13/2008 3:36:13 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe

I have been looking at her wonderful image. Bless you and thank you as well. St. Theresa was my father’s saint. He carried her pirture in her pocket every day. I have prayer beads and an angel of love. I cant tell you how much your prayers mean to me. I may be out on the streets in a few months. I struggle to care. I cry a lot. I hate myself often. I was sucidal before. Alcoholism is a thief. It literally took everything from me and continues to this day to take from me.


18 posted on 12/13/2008 3:42:41 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: incredulous joe

My father was an alcoholic. Im an alcoholic. Im a loser. I dont deserve to live. I struggle to care.


19 posted on 12/13/2008 3:52:48 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321
My father was an alcoholic. Im an alcoholic. Im a loser. I dont deserve to live. I struggle to care.

Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Jesus wants all people to come to him...And it's so easy...

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Don't wait any longer...Do it now...

20 posted on 12/13/2008 4:31:24 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: dreadnought321

You are in my prayers, especially to Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal. Please, I beg you to go to an AA meeting ASAP. You can find out by calling the AA number in your phone book. I’ve been where you are, thousands of us have been there too. And there is help and hope.


21 posted on 12/13/2008 4:56:58 AM PST by Ravens70
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To: Iscool

I thank you so much. If I lose my job I will have nothing left. I will have to declare bankruptcy, I will have my car repo’d. My credit will be ruined. I will literally be sleeping on the street soon. The bible doesnt help feed or clothe me. I still believe that my dad will see me through my death. I have enough to still purchase a helium tank and a gas mask to hook up to it. Helium renders you unconscious within a couple minutes and to my Maker within 5. Peaceful and without pain. I hold off from this until I know what my fate will be in a few months


22 posted on 12/13/2008 5:37:39 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: Ravens70

Ive been to several AA meetings. I dont happen to believe in any higher power. I dont need to believe in anything. I do think that my dad comes to me in my dreams. That is not a higher power. It will be at least March before I know what my fate is. I am facing DUI/refusal and a carrying a weapon without permit. I tried to commit suicide in July while drunk. Im not sucidal now, but I am anxious about what willl happen to me


23 posted on 12/13/2008 5:51:43 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: Ravens70

I appreciate your concern. Im not into AA. Im into reality


24 posted on 12/13/2008 5:57:31 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321

Ever hear of Pascal’s Wager??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager


25 posted on 12/13/2008 5:59:17 AM PST by Ravens70
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To: Ravens70

The question is not whether there is or isnt a god. There does not have to be a god. Just because we dont understand does not necessitate anything. But that will be lost on you and most people.


26 posted on 12/13/2008 6:04:06 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321

“Im not into AA. Im into reality”

Yes, of course, my Tuesday nite meeting was a land of rainbows, gumdrops and unicorns...the reality is you are sick, your life is unmanageable and you will end up in a casket unless something changes. Your preoccupation with yourself kind of precludes any outside help. Man up and get the help you need..


27 posted on 12/13/2008 6:11:55 AM PST by Ravens70
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To: dreadnought321

Free Republic has a ping list you may want to check out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2100733/posts

Best of luck to you, FRiend.


28 posted on 12/13/2008 6:13:17 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ravens70

I appreciate your concern. I really do. You do whatever helps you. You keep on buying into the recovery industry BS and ignoring my previous comment. No need to respond to it. Too painful to respond to. My pre-occupation with myself, nah, that will end when I want it to. Not interested in pre-occupation. Keep on believing in the flying spaghetti monster thats keep you sober. The justice system is lovely. Everybody has food in their tummy’s. Just make sure you get that wonderful coffee at that next AA meeting.


29 posted on 12/13/2008 6:23:31 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: trisham

Thanks but I believe in myself. not an invisible cloud being


30 posted on 12/13/2008 6:45:01 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321

Then, get lost. I sincerely dislike people like you. Frankly, I think you’re a troll.

Quit coming onto threads, telling sob stories and otherwise soliciting help, then turning up your nose when you receive responses. If you’ve got all the answers, then why are you bedeviling us with your problems?


31 posted on 12/13/2008 7:01:22 AM PST by Marechal (In Ulcisci, Fidelitas)
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To: Marechal

Im not bedeviling anyone. I not asking for anyone’s help. Im not telling sob stories. Alcoholism runs in my family. I am facing a DUI with a carry charge. I am depressed. I was suicidal in the past but not now. It warms my heart that when in homeless in a few months that I can think back on posts like yours. Guess I should just accept religion and hope it fills my stomach. Or perhaps pays my rent the next month. Faith based living. Yep. I’ll be under the bridge soon. Guarantee you or any other Freerepublic member wont give a S then.


32 posted on 12/13/2008 7:14:31 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: Marechal

And by the way. it was a suicide attempt. Not that you care. Unless you profit from it. Yes, I deserve to to spend several months in jail from trying to kill myself. Nice society you have there. That AA coffee is sure delicious though!


33 posted on 12/13/2008 7:19:50 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321

“Alcoholism runs in my family. I am facing a DUI with a carry charge. I am depressed. I was suicidal in the past but not now....”


I didn’t ask for another rehash of your problems, which you apparently are compelled to recount in loving detail. If you’re too stupid or weak to overcome your issues, or are too obstinate to seek help to overcome them, then the devil take you. Again, get lost and quit hijacking threads.


34 posted on 12/13/2008 7:29:50 AM PST by Marechal (In Ulcisci, Fidelitas)
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To: Marechal

You’re Christian dislike, sincerely, is typical. Thanks. I will be soon living in the apartment halllway. I got word that I will be getting laid off next week. Like you care. As long as it doesnt affect CEO’s.


35 posted on 12/13/2008 7:35:33 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: Marechal

ok.


36 posted on 12/13/2008 7:37:21 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: Marechal

Im sorry. Im truly sorry. I am a lost cause.


37 posted on 12/13/2008 7:42:01 AM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321

I would say that you should listen to question #5 of the podcast; it refers to those who constantly fall into sin.

Per Groeschel’s answer; we are all “poor sinners”. I would recommend using this in place of the word “loser”. We are all joined together in sin and may all be redeemed by our Lord’s suffering.

My own brother was/is an alcoholic and went through 2 DWIs. He is a good man, but used the bottle to resolve some demons in his life. He and his wife have suffered through six miscarriages. He did not like AA, but he started there and found coping methods of his own. Most importantly, he gave his life over to God. He humbled himself and asked for God’s help. I don’t know that you have to follow a specific doctrine or path. I think you could be Christian or Jew or even agnostic. I have my doubts that you can solve your problem through any secular approach. The “reality” that you speak of is not real. I think the root of alcoholism is a spiritual one. A “higher power” should be invoked even if you don’t know who or what that power is.

Today my brother is very successful. He is a very quiet man and very reserved. Not a Bible thumper and not someone who is prone to speak forcefully about his spirituality. But he knows that he was saved by grace, which he did not have.

I also have other friends who have turned away from alcoholism, some have done it on their own (I mean without a network or AA), but all reference reliance on God. I don’t think you can make it otherwise.

It sounds like you have a lot more problems than just alcohol, but that they are all interconnected. You need to reach out to a group such as AA or a church to find resources that may be of assistance to you.

Finally, you may be someone who is struggling with these problems, as it has occurred to others that you may simply be trolling the thread it has also occurred to me, as well. I have a cynical nature. It is something that I have always struggled with. Hence, the handle “Incredulous Joe”. But I feel that it’s important to take you on “good faith” with the difficulties that you have shared. In that same spirit of “good faith” you should not take the encouragement of others and turn it around to reject them.

This strikes me as subversive and disturbed. In this matter, only the Lord really knows your heart, but He hears our prayers anyway, and knows what is best, regardless of where you may need to be healed.

God bless.


38 posted on 12/13/2008 9:19:37 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: Marechal

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. Click on my profile page for guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum.


39 posted on 12/13/2008 8:42:18 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: dreadnought321

You can recover. Prayers! Others do care.


40 posted on 12/13/2008 8:52:01 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: dreadnought321

AA is reality. Are you married? Have your family start attending Al-Anon. It’s wonderful.


41 posted on 12/13/2008 8:54:38 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: trisham

I didn’t know that was even there. Wow!


42 posted on 12/13/2008 8:56:03 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RobFromGa

Over here.


43 posted on 12/13/2008 8:57:46 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: incredulous joe

While I do not share his faith, I’ve always enjoyed Father Benedict’s commentary. Unlike most of the priests of my youth, he knows what he is talking about, and communicates it in a cogent, intelligent matter. He’s no Fulton Sheen, but Msgr. Sheen can never be matched.


44 posted on 12/13/2008 8:58:09 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Marechal; dreadnought321

Don’t you realize he is begging for help? (Whether he knows it or not.)

May God walk with you during this difficult time.

God, grand me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.
The courage to change the things I can.
And the wisdom to know the difference.

Prayers offered.


45 posted on 12/13/2008 9:01:37 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

No, from his language and contentiousness when people actually *did* offer help or constructive suggestions, I’d venture to say he’s certainly not begging for help. Begging for attention, more like. Actively trolling, perhaps.

Either way, mission accomplished, given that dialogue on the topic at hand was pretty much destroyed.


46 posted on 12/13/2008 9:05:58 PM PST by Marechal (In Ulcisci, Fidelitas)
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To: Marechal

It will get back to the topic. These threads wander sometimes.


47 posted on 12/13/2008 9:13:34 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: dreadnought321; SirLurkedalot; kjvail; bad company; xcamel; mystery-ak; Pookyhead; Puppage; ...
take a look at this thread, please and starting at #18 there is a fellow Freeper who I think doesn't yet know that many know exactly what he is experiencing with his alcohol issues...

PING, this thread might be of interest to you! Freegards, RobFromGa



48 posted on 12/14/2008 4:41:31 AM PST by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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To: Salvation

thanks Salvation...


49 posted on 12/14/2008 4:42:40 AM PST by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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To: dreadnought321
Im sorry. Im truly sorry. I am a lost cause.

The only question that matters if you want to fix this...

Do you honestly want to quit drinking?

If the answer is yes, then you can be helped. If the answer is no, or you don't know, then you are unlikely to be successful. If the answer is Yes, there are many that can help and it doesn't require a belief in a higher being.

And AA doesn't require you to be spiritual, the AA group can be your higher power, you would benefit greatly from hearing how "normal" your problems with alcohol are...

I hope you are ready for help. you sound like you have suffered enough but this is a decision only you can make.

50 posted on 12/14/2008 4:47:56 AM PST by RobFromGa (It's the Spending, Stupid! (not the method of collection))
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