Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

WE CAN KNOW THE DAY and the Hour
Bible Prophecy Corner ^ | 12/15/08 | Marilyn Agee

Posted on 12/15/2008 12:20:45 PM PST by STD

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-160 next last
To: STD

ROFL!!!!


51 posted on 12/15/2008 1:41:14 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Truth Defender

Folly you say, I am sure they were saying the same thing in Noah’s day.


52 posted on 12/15/2008 1:41:14 PM PST by orchestra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: gop4lyf
So what is this chick doing on 12/21/2012?

Writing her next prophetic "The date of the Rapture" book, I'd bet.

53 posted on 12/15/2008 1:41:22 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: STD

Bump for later


54 posted on 12/15/2008 1:43:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mad_as_he$$

I don’t deny Skynet will take over in 2011...I’m just sayin’ that the world will end in 2012. They will destroy it. I can probably figure out a way the Bible prophecy supports this theory..but it’ll take me a while. I’ll get back to you. I think a case can be made that SkyNet is the antichrist.

(more /s — please don’t flame me, serious ones...)


55 posted on 12/15/2008 1:43:22 PM PST by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
My first though on this is that eventually, one of these characters will get it right. Just by accident.

My second thought is that The Lord has too much sense of humour to allow that. The Last Day (and the Last Hour, Minute, Second, etc.) will occur when NOBODY has predicted it.

56 posted on 12/15/2008 1:43:42 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: orchestra
Look at the pattern we are given in the abandonment of Shiloh by the Lord.

I must be missing something. What pattern leading to what exactly?

57 posted on 12/15/2008 1:49:49 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: SENTINEL

Not the least bit concerned here.....I’m thrilled and looking forward to the Kingdom to come.


58 posted on 12/15/2008 1:51:51 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: XeniaSt; STD; Alex Murphy
This make far more sense: Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/15

Sure. It can make more sense and still make little sense being nonsense. It's all relative.

59 posted on 12/15/2008 1:53:28 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: PetroniusMaximus
Dang it.....you beat me to it........

:-)

60 posted on 12/15/2008 1:55:47 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: PetroniusMaximus
Dang it.....you beat me to it........

:-)

61 posted on 12/15/2008 1:55:53 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: STD
Marilyn Agee

Even the Rapture Ready folks think she's a bit off.

1998

1998 Marilyn Agee, in her book, The End of the Age, had her sights set on May 31, 1998. This date was to conclude the 6,000-year cycle from the time of Adam. Agee looked for the rapture to take place on Pentecost, which is also known as “the Feast of Weeks.” Another indicator of this date was the fact that the Holy Spirit did not descend upon the apostles until 50 days after Christ's resurrection. Israel was born in 1948; add the 50 days as years and you come up with

After her May 31 rapture date failed, Agee, unable to face up to her error, continued her date setting by using various Scripture references to point to June 7, 14, 21 and about 10 other dates.

1999

Well, you can't call Marilyn Agee a quitter. After bombing out badly several time in 1998, Marilyn set a new date for the rapture: May 21 or 22 of this year.

Ignore whatever she says.

62 posted on 12/15/2008 1:58:07 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: topcat54

The pattern we are given when the Lord abandoned the tabernacle which was at Shiloh, which led to the Ark being taken and held by the Philistines for seven months. Its in the book of Samuel. I will try and send you the complete study privately, it is long, but I will see if it will go through.


63 posted on 12/15/2008 1:58:35 PM PST by orchestra
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: erkyl

Hey that is as likely as anything else. He does move in mysterious way. Oh and I instantly turn of anyone who tries to tell me they know exactly how it will all play out. That arrogance must surely annoy the him.


64 posted on 12/15/2008 2:01:28 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: orchestra

“The Bible plainly teaches that those who are God’s elect WILL indeed know the time. “

Like this one???

“When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.”

???


65 posted on 12/15/2008 2:06:33 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy

You are saying the 2nd rapture is in 2022
2012- Would then be half of the 5 yr tribulation meaning the start of the tribulation came in October 2008


66 posted on 12/15/2008 2:21:14 PM PST by TaraP (A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: mad_as_he$$

ITA—Can’t help but think God looks down on all this speculation and interpretation and chuckles a bit. The ultimate ‘mystery’ conceived by the creator of all time and space, and some feeble humans think they can ‘figure it all out.’ I mean, He loves us, but you know this has got to be entertaining to watch for Him.

Hey—Christians...He loves you...He’s coming back to get us someday. How and when He does it really isn’t what we’re supposed to be about. I believe Jesus told us what true religion is, and it’s not ‘figuring out the second coming mystery.’ I believe His words were “caring for orphans and widows in their affliction.” Let’s do that, okay?


67 posted on 12/15/2008 2:26:16 PM PST by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: STD

He’s coming, real soon now, be ready and repent, it’s coming, wait for it, here it comes, well maybe not now but it will, just watch, twinkling of an eye, so don’t blink, get ready for it, look busy....


68 posted on 12/15/2008 2:28:55 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: STD
linkey est geborken, BTW. Unless "bibleprophecycorner" is a new top level domain.
69 posted on 12/15/2008 2:32:50 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TaraP
You are saying the 2nd rapture is in 2022
First it's not me saying it, nor me buying into it - I just quoted the relevant bits of the article for emphasis.

2012- Would then be half of the 5 yr tribulation meaning the start of the tribulation came in October 2008

You lost me entirely, starting with the 2012 and 2008 dates. Are you saying that the Tribulation's going to last five years or ten years?

70 posted on 12/15/2008 2:34:35 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: STD

I retain a rather dim view of date speculating.

I do, however, believe we ought to be confessed up, repented up, watching, and ready to go up 24/7 in this increasingly dramatic END TIMES era, decade . . .


71 posted on 12/15/2008 2:36:29 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: topcat54

cue a long stream of cartoon critters

ROLLING ON THE FLOOR, LAUGHING OUT LOUD AND HOLDING THEIR STOMACHS

at such clueless preterist, amil, Calvinist etc. notions about the END TIMES.


72 posted on 12/15/2008 2:39:24 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Patrick1

The bible clearly states when Jesus will come back to earth which can be found in the book of Daniel.

Jesus returns at the end of Daniels 70th week to save Israel and destroy the armys gathered in the valley of Meggido. His return is also talked about in the old testament in Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Zechariah, to name a few.

Jesus said in Matt CH 24 that when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the Holy Place (whoever reads, let him understand) Then let those in Judea flee to the mountains....

This did not happen when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed in AD 70 because verse 21 of Matt CH24 says “then there will be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor shall ever be. 22 And unless those days were shortened no flesh would be saved...

So from the time that the “abomination of Desolation” until Jesus return is 3 1/2 yrs (1260 days). That is the only time we will know the time of Jesus return.

There is another event that has no preceding signs. It is called the “transfiguration” or “rapture”. That event can happen at any time. Check out Pauls letter to the Thessolonians, he had to reassure them that their loved ones who had died as martyers would not miss out on that event. Paul even said that they will precede them in the order of events. In I Thess. CN 4 verses13-17, which clearly has us meeting Jesus in the air and him and us returning to heaven. This is not the second coming which has many signs and a time line leading up to his coming back to the earth.


73 posted on 12/15/2008 2:43:09 PM PST by coincheck (Pray for my oldest son, he is in Iraq. Keeping us free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy

I am not trying to predict dates, but I do think Jesus gave us signs and seasons to look for, not to confuse us, but for us to remain steadfast, study prophecy and always be ready..

So here is my Prophecy Food for Thought for today..
If Revelation 8 happened this year 2008
Revelation 8 - The First Four TrumpetsSince heaven is a place of constant praise and worship to God (Revelation 4:8-11 ) silence for about half an hour....Silence for a half hour might be the Sun being quiet (No sunspots)

If GOD sends a deception to people it might be the End of the World prophecy of the Maya Calendar which ends in 2012 12/21/2012 or it could be the rapture mid-point which does give 2015 some credibility.


74 posted on 12/15/2008 2:44:47 PM PST by TaraP (A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: erkyl
I thought everyone knew the end of the world was December 21, 2012. I’m holding out for that, because it’s when the Mayan Calendar ends. It’s scientific. /s

I know you are kidding, but, that is probably the end of an age and not the end of the world. There's a difference.

75 posted on 12/15/2008 3:03:01 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: STD; Alex Murphy

Thanks to Alex Murphy for hosting.

76 posted on 12/15/2008 3:07:34 PM PST by jude24
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: STD

Surely there is a chart somewhere that will help us sort all this out!!!!


77 posted on 12/15/2008 3:36:59 PM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SENTINEL; STD
Do they wish to procrastinate their repentance ? If not, why such detailed concern ?

Precisely. I think the author COMPLETELY misses the point. The whole idea was to to warn that NO MAN - including the author - knows when. Day or hour. Or year for that matter. The point was to BE READY. It may come tomorrow. It may come 50 years from now.

And as an aside: It's not a "tribulation" if all those that would face "trial" during that time have been raptured. Christians will be persecuted DURING the tribulation. It won't be until after that the 2nd coming will occur.

My two cents.

78 posted on 12/15/2008 3:37:08 PM PST by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Quix
ROLLING ON THE FLOOR, LAUGHING OUT LOUD AND HOLDING THEIR STOMACHS

Ah, dear Quixy. Feeling well, I see.

79 posted on 12/15/2008 3:45:25 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: thatjoeguy
And why do people keep bringing up the pre-trib rapture. Where is it in scripture??

Precisely. I just got done making the point on another response that it's not a "tribulation" if those that would face the trials have already been taken.

80 posted on 12/15/2008 3:48:02 PM PST by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: TaraP
So here is my Prophecy Food for Thought for today.. If Revelation 8 happened this year 2008

Revelation 8 - The First Four TrumpetsSince heaven is a place of constant praise and worship to God (Revelation 4:8-11 ) silence for about half an hour....Silence for a half hour might be the Sun being quiet (No sunspots)

If GOD sends a deception to people it might be the End of the World prophecy of the Maya Calendar which ends in 2012 12/21/2012 or it could be the rapture mid-point which does give 2015 some credibility.

Have you ever considered writing a commentary on Revelation or something? You have a touch that is simply.... masterful when interpreting these texts. I have never seen anything quite like it.

81 posted on 12/15/2008 4:04:20 PM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: orchestra
God’s elect WILL indeed know the time.

Which is....?

82 posted on 12/15/2008 4:43:45 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: STD

God pronounces curses upon those who practice divination and fortune telling. How must He feel when would=be teachers use His Word as a ouija board, a tool for divination — in order to discourage His people?


83 posted on 12/15/2008 5:34:52 PM PST by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TaraP; Alex Murphy
You are saying the 2nd rapture is in 2022

2nd rapture? Folks are having a hard enough time keeping one rapture straight and now they are talking about a 2nd one? Where did this 2nd rapture come from?

84 posted on 12/15/2008 5:42:03 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: Lee N. Field

I hadn’t noticed.


85 posted on 12/15/2008 5:45:49 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: dware

SCRIPTURE

says it will be the worst time than ever has been or ever will be.

Doesn’t sound like a cake-walk to me regardless of who’s experiencing it.


86 posted on 12/15/2008 6:35:09 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: MHGinTN
That is a bit unfair, after all the Bible teaches that we have free will and in his incarnate form at the time Jesus said that to His audience, he had made Himself a little lower than the Angels and did not have ‘all of time’ vision to call upon, so He was being honest in that state of His being.

Oh I don't think so... Jesus said He didn't know the day. The author of the post said he/she did. Therefore he/she must know more than Jesus. What I find humorous is that the argument was based upon something that Jesus "didn't" say... not what He did... even though the assertion being made makes Jesus out to be a liar. Who is being unfair? Even you suggest that Jesus didn't have all His marbles while He was here on earth. Oh.... and whats this about Jesus being honest when He said "x"??? was there ever a time that He wasn't honest??? State of Being??? come on! "THE DAY" is THE ONLY THING Jesus ever said He was not knowledgeable of. I find your arguments even more presumptive than the 1st one!
87 posted on 12/15/2008 7:14:02 PM PST by Safrguns
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Safrguns

You have a nice evening ...


88 posted on 12/15/2008 7:23:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy; TaraP
You lost me entirely, starting with the 2012 and 2008 dates. Are you saying that the Tribulation's going to last five years or ten years?

Want this?


89 posted on 12/15/2008 7:26:10 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: topcat54

HP, in the calculator heyday, made an RPN handheld for that, that was way faster than the standard algebraic rapture predictor.


90 posted on 12/15/2008 7:44:55 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: topcat54
Want this?

Not needed - you've already seen mine.

91 posted on 12/15/2008 8:37:47 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: STD

“Cheshvan 17, 5769 (Nov. 15, 2008) is on Saturday, the Sabbath. It looks like we will go to Shabbatai (Saturn, the 3rd Heaven; II Cor. 12:2, and the 7th planet) on Shabbat (the 7th day).”

Based on what Scripture says regarding the Sabbath, the day G*d rested, I would think that the event would occur on another day.


92 posted on 12/15/2008 8:38:37 PM PST by whipitgood (Real Americans don't allow socialists to take over their country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: STD

Please show me where the tribulation period is 7 years. Revelation has no 7 year period only 3.5 years. In your reference in Matt 24 Christ said that no stone would stand of the temple so something must happen for the last of the wall to fall so until that time I would not get my bowls in a uproar or and underwear in a wringer.


93 posted on 12/16/2008 2:55:49 AM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
Please read the material before making incorrect conclusions. Marilyn has only suggested a date. Why then did Jesus say I have told you "all things" When His life among humankind was over Jesus said in the Revelation of Jesus the Christ was complete and prophecy has ceased.

Truthfully, Jesus is sitting on the throne of peace and He shall come again. Marilyn knows more than any ten phonies that seek books etc,,,. She has never claimed in this material that she's anything more than an old women working her butt off to save souls. Alex, it's intellectual laziness, but don't flame me if you won't read the post. FReepers don't whine until they have taken the time to study the material and articles posted first.

94 posted on 12/16/2008 4:15:05 AM PST by STD (Go Out to the Nations Preaching the Good News)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: STD
Marilyn knows more than any ten phonies that seek books etc,,,.

Perhaps, but I strongly suspect Marilyn doesn't know Deuteronomy 18:20-22.

When His life among humankind was over Jesus said in the Revelation of Jesus the Christ was complete and prophecy has ceased.

Are you saying that Jesus has changed the standards, and prophecy doesn't need to have a 1.000 batting average anymore?

95 posted on 12/16/2008 7:19:10 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: STD; Alex Murphy
Please read the material before making incorrect conclusions. Marilyn has only suggested a date.

So what? Where does this proclivity to suggest dates come from? Certainly it does not come from the Word of God. Jesus never told His disciples to go about suggesting dates for His return. The only alternative is to believe in secret knowledge where God allegedly speaks things to just some people. Then when they do not come true and miss the mark badly, we hear, “Oh well, it was only a suggestion. No harm no foul.” It gets to be like the little boy who cried wolf. No one takes it seriously and, in actuality, it’s a form of blasphemy that defames the Name of Christ.

96 posted on 12/16/2008 7:22:13 AM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: orchestra
Folly you say, I am sure they were saying the same thing in Noah’s day.

That could be. However, that is something we don't know for certain - just as no one, period, knows the day and hour that Jesus will return to raise the dead. My point, if you have not caught it, is that it is folly to debate dates when He returns.

97 posted on 12/16/2008 7:46:15 AM PST by Truth Defender (Christ did NOT come to save an immortal sinner, but to give a mortal sinner the offer of immortality)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: erkyl
ITA—Can’t help but think God looks down on all this speculation and interpretation and chuckles a bit. The ultimate ‘mystery’ conceived by the creator of all time and space, and some feeble humans think they can ‘figure it all out.’ I mean, He loves us, but you know this has got to be entertaining to watch for Him.

Hey—Christians...He loves you...He’s coming back to get us someday. How and when He does it really isn’t what we’re supposed to be about. I believe Jesus told us what true religion is, and it’s not ‘figuring out the second coming mystery.’ I believe His words were “caring for orphans and widows in their affliction.” Let’s do that, okay?

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

98 posted on 12/16/2008 7:52:37 AM PST by Truth Defender (Christ did NOT come to save an immortal sinner, but to give a mortal sinner the offer of immortality)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: topcat54

I don’t know what that is...
I meant 7 yrs not 5.

But any’ways I am going to post a Vanity Post on the return of Jesus and I would like to hear what you have to say about it.


99 posted on 12/16/2008 9:11:47 AM PST by TaraP (A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: erkyl

Well said.


100 posted on 12/16/2008 9:29:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-150151-160 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson