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Letter To Praise And Worship Musicians
The Wanderer Press .Com ^ | Thursday, December 18th, 2008 | By JEFFREY TUCKER

Posted on 12/18/2008 11:52:10 AM PST by GonzoII

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1 posted on 12/18/2008 11:52:10 AM PST by GonzoII
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I play in my church’s band. We rock the house with the likes of Lincoln Brewster, Third Day, Hillsong, et.al. I think Christian Rock is better today than anything in the “secular” world.


2 posted on 12/18/2008 12:10:01 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: GonzoII

Good post. As an Evangelical Christian, I can say I experienced much of the same as Catholics and long for a return to humility and prayer during the worship service experience.

I must say that I also appreciate the modern praise and worship experience and feel that it was a necessary part of my faith journey. I still like it today, but don’t expect a deeper experience from it.


3 posted on 12/18/2008 12:12:35 PM PST by freeagle
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“I must say that I also appreciate the modern praise and worship”

I don't know if Jeniffer Knapp fits that genre, but I always have her CDs on hand, love to listen to her while I'm driving.

4 posted on 12/18/2008 12:16:59 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: randog
I play in my church’s band. We rock the house with the likes of Lincoln Brewster, Third Day, Hillsong, et.al. I think Christian Rock is better today than anything in the “secular” world.

Same here...last week I taught the worship team Lincoln's new tune...."The power of Your Name".

when I first got the CD that song stuck out and I know we had to play it...

5 posted on 12/18/2008 12:30:13 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: GonzoII

Ping to read later - looks interesting.


6 posted on 12/18/2008 12:31:19 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: freeagle
I must say that I also appreciate the modern praise and worship experience and feel that it was a necessary part of my faith journey. I still like it today, but don’t expect a deeper experience from it.

what I see during Worship...when I get a deeper experience is when the songs are song TO Jesus and not just about Him...where you pour out your heart and soul to Him. seems to me when ever that is the case the Holy Spirit comes and evokes true worship

7 posted on 12/18/2008 12:36:30 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: GonzoII

If the Latin mass was good enough for Jesus then its good enough for the rest of us ;)


8 posted on 12/18/2008 12:40:05 PM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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“If the Latin mass was good enough for Jesus then its good enough for the rest of us ;)”

Jesus spoke Aramaic??

Propably new some Latin though.


9 posted on 12/18/2008 12:49:41 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII

new=knew


10 posted on 12/18/2008 12:50:30 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Gone_Postal

Oh my Jesus... I want you for my BO-OY-friend.


11 posted on 12/18/2008 1:09:38 PM PST by ichabod1 (Reagan wouldÂ’ve fired them.)
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To: randog
I play in my church’s band. We rock the house

Our church had a band that "rocked the house." They turned mass into a carnival. When people objected to their music, the pastor responded by publishing a music schedule in the weekly bulletin. The rockin' mass was always poorly attended, save the musicians' relatives and other people caught unawares. Eventually, it was just their relatives, and the other masses were over crowded.

I led the effort to do away with them and succeeded. They now put on concerts on Saturday nights, in the church, with primarily their families in attendance. I'm sure they miss their "captive" audience, but we were all tired of listening to hippie guitar licks and full drum kits during communion.

Rock it somewhere else, buddy. There's little enough tradition and reverence left in the church.
12 posted on 12/18/2008 1:11:43 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: ichabod1

not quite what I had in mind


13 posted on 12/18/2008 1:32:33 PM PST by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: GonzoII

The author seems to be addressing an audience that exists only in his own head. This is a tiresome literary style that he would do well to drop; instead, he could exercise the humility he professes to admire and simply state his opinions as such.


14 posted on 12/18/2008 1:42:05 PM PST by Tax-chick ("And the rum is for all your good vices.")
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I have to say, as a 20-something-year-old convert to the Church: this letter is really spot-on in alot of ways. For some reason, many “in the pews” seem unable (or unwilling) to see the danger of losing our musical patrimony in Catholic liturgy.

Really and truly, “lex orandi, lex credendi”: the way we pray (i.e. worship) profoundly affects the way we believe - even in those effects are incremental over time. To pretend as though the Church got it way, way wrong for nearly 2,000 years in composing and preserving Gregorian chant in her liturgy is foolish, imho. It is ridiculously cavalier to assume that we are sooooo much smarter than those who saw value in preserving the special and unique musical components of the Mass.

If you argue that “chant was fine for people back then because it was a different time, we need modern music to make worship more relevant,” I'd say your very confused. You see, chant has always been the purview of the Church and only the Church - it was, and always has been, intimately connected to and associated with divine worship. There has ALWAYS been secular music apart from the music of the Mass. Why we have become so arrogant so as to think that WE know better than the past two millenia of Church members and that we not only CAN but SHOULD mix and confuse sacred and secular music is beyond me...

Just my 2 cents. Tucker is ahead of his time if you smell where the liturgical wind is blowing in the Catholic Church...

15 posted on 12/18/2008 2:22:56 PM PST by DogwoodSouth
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I should add: The reason I mentioned my age (20s) is to illustrate the point that I count myself among many, many younger Catholics who do not appreciate the condescending assumption that “young people” need/crave/want/desire “relative” music in the Mass.

My experience in my own large parish has been that o'er and o'er, it is younger singles and families who fight for a RESTORATION of the things sacred so callously disregarded and jettisoned by an aging clique who is SHOCKED that we want to change what they've implemented over the past decades (banal music is just one example). I think Tucker is under 40 himself.

16 posted on 12/18/2008 2:27:58 PM PST by DogwoodSouth
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You are not unaware that the style of music you have chosen...

Music! I was wondering what that awful racket was throughout the Mass. Now I know.

17 posted on 12/18/2008 2:45:48 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -C.S. Lewis)
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You must have been there the day the guitar played the “Santo” in 3/4 while the choir sang it in 4/4 and the drum played in 9/8. I think it was negative ions or something.


18 posted on 12/18/2008 2:58:31 PM PST by Tax-chick ("And the rum is for all your good vices.")
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To: ConservativeWarrior
Rock it somewhere else, buddy.

LOL!! The church's mission is based around the non-traditional, and it works for them. People do come in and don't like it and leave, and others stay, just like any other church. I stayed and decided to join the band. This church isn't for everybody, but it wasn't intended to be. BTW, I still go to my neighborhood catholic church. I like the traditional, too.

Merry Christmas!

19 posted on 12/18/2008 3:17:17 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Gone_Postal

Our favorite new song is “Today is the Day”. A great way to start service; very uplifting!


20 posted on 12/18/2008 3:19:59 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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