Sixth-Grader Penalized For Mentioning Jesus in His Christmas Paper at School

Liberty Counsel ^ | December 18, 2008 | n/a

[Sopater]

Ain’t dat duh truf.

[metmom]

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

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[constitutiongirl]

The problem doesn’t start with the teachers, no matter how high they are paid. The problem is the leftist indoctrination (via curriculum and textbooks) the teachers peddle to the children, whether they are conscious of doing this or not. I’ve met teachers who buffer as much as they can, but in the end they have to teach what they are told to teach. How much should one be paid to indoctrinate our children? I taught for 3 years so I don’t consider all ps teachers to be raging leftists, but a fair number of them are.

My mother’s been a pst for 30-plus years. Even she complains about the younger teachers and how absolutely clueless they are in every subject. Just because someone graduated from what now passes as ‘university’ doesn’t mean they’re competent, intelligent or even bright. I helped one at my mom’s school rewrite a project around election time. Fresh out of school with a newly minted Masters in Ed and this guy didn’t realize we live in a Constitutional Republic and he also could not identify the Bill of Rights.

[constitutiongirl]

I’m really glad everything’s working out for your children. Good choice of counties. What grades are your kids in, if you don’t mind me asking. I’d like to know if you see a big difference between elementary school and middle school in your district. Also if you notice any great differences between the older teachers and the younger ones. I pulled my kids out of Chesterfield in middle school for several reasons. I attended Richmond PS (ugh, yeah, my mom’s a RPS teacher) and the schools were crap from k-12 (I graduated in ‘88) and they’ve only gone downhill since then.

[Zechariah_8_13]

Public school teachers with a masters degree make all of 30 grand... thats right a whopping 30 thousand a year.

How much does that work out to per hour? I believe the last time I read up on it, your average teacher was making more per hour than your average dentist.

I know someone with a Master's who makes $60K teaching kindergarten in a public school. She hasn't been teaching very long, and she's just on the regular Union pay scale, nothing special.

One of her Master's projects was creating a diagram of a butterfly's metamorphosis using cotton balls and seed pods. I wish I were joking.

Oh and she proudly wears her Union pin to class, voted for Obama, and angrily went on strike when the district had the audacity to try to add on a $5 copay on prescriptions (previously they were completely free). She would arrive at school at 7:30 and be on the road by 3 every day, and complained to no end when she had to stay till 5 for a meeting a half dozen times a school year.

Sure there are decent, intelligent, hardworking teachers. But in my experience, they are the exception.

[Zechariah_8_13]

Oh and regarding your statement that teachers with a Master's make $30K:

The average salary for traditional public school teachers increased 4.5 percent in 2006-07 to $51,009, according to the AFT's latest teacher salary survey

Most teachers do not have a Master's degree. The above number of course does not include the monetary value of their health coverage (usually VERY generous) nor take into account time off or pensions.

Now for those teachers not in the NEA, I agree it's not quite so cushy.

[dbz77]

Freedom of religion, you know.

[Maelstrom]

The point is, those teachers are seeking to indoctrinate young children into an anti-American groupthink with very few, if any, critical thinking skills beginning with homosexual desensitization in KINDERGARTEN.

Liberals would *pay* to indoctrinate *our* children into *their* political philosophy...but under this unconscionable scheme, we *pay* *them* 30 thousand a year.

((Although this is a lie. The average teacher is paid far *more* than 30 thousand a year. Shame on the poster to which you responded for LYING about their salary.))

Home-schooled children do best, on average.

Public-schooled children do worst, on average.

Public school teachers complain that parental involvement determines the level of success that students can achieve, postulating that perhaps those same home-schooled children would do better than they did had they gone to public schools.

The thing is...that the facts do prove something: The TEACHERS DON’T MATTER...THE PARENTS DO MATTER.

Get over it.

[Maelstrom]

Sam,

Thanks for the ping.

[Maelstrom]

There is no freedom *from* religion.

The concept directly violates the 1st Amendment.

[Maelstrom]

You get what you pay for, that's the American way. If you want a good doctor, lawyer, "teacher" whatever...its going to cost for a good one. If ya don't, there are droves of inferior ones out there (like the one in this story) who will work cheaper, just don't whine when their work is substandard.

Most of the ps teachers I have met do a good job, the boob mentioned in this article is the exception not the rule.

The funny thing is...those who homeschool aren't paying for teachers to educate their own children.

I think government involvement changes the rules...that's why we do better, on average, the less money we throw into the black hole of public education.

Didn't know that? Most private schools cost less, per pupil, than public schools today.

[Fresh Wind]

Does Latasha give extra credit for mentioning Allah (or his prophet Obama)?

[Maelstrom]

Post the pictures.

((Also note that I am Maelstrom not “Maelstorm”.))