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To: Zionist Conspirator
We will have to agree to disagree for the moment.

To debate you using specific passages from the Old Testemant is more than I am prepared to do at this moment.
To put it bluntly, I am not as cognizant of all the passages of the Old Testemant as I am of the New Testament.

By the by, just a question - When you say Torah you are meaning only the first five books of the Old Testament, correct?

At this moment I cannot debate your assumption, just like mine, using only the Old Testament or the Torah.

When it comes down to it it is a matter of faith, and faith doesn't require proof.

I will attempt to investigate the old Testament for arguments for this debate.

Have a happy New Year

32 posted on 12/23/2008 1:38:48 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe
Thank you, and my apologies for being so unpleasant. I tend to behave that way when frustrated.

For now let me close our conversation by making one small, solitary point: my self image, nurtured by the preacher I spoke of, has not changed. I am quiet cognizant of my utter unworthiness before G-d. It is my worldview, not my view of myself, that has changed.

All the best!

33 posted on 12/23/2008 2:20:29 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Az 'egmor, beshir-mizmor, chanukkat-hamizbeach!)
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To: Just another Joe
"To put it bluntly, I am not as cognizant of all the passages of the Old Testemant as I am of the New Testament."

My peers of the past also repeatedly redirected me toward the New. Then I resolved to study for a few years without being distracted.

"I will attempt to investigate the old Testament for arguments for this debate."

Here are some references to words that you might find interesting.

Isaiah 43:11

Zechariah 14:9

Malachi 3:6

...even better, if you read whole books for context to know who the phrase, "son of man," really refers to. Arguments about "types" and "shadows" tend to evaporate under such study.


34 posted on 12/24/2008 10:49:10 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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