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Palin's Pro-Life Failin'? What a long, strange "Tripp" it's been
Fighting Irish Thomas ^ | 12-30-08 | Tom O'Toole

Posted on 12/31/2008 9:57:41 AM PST by mlizzy

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1 posted on 12/31/2008 9:57:42 AM PST by mlizzy
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...her fiance, who dropped out of high school and whose Myspace recently read, "I'm a ... redneck" and "I don't want kids," ...

I thought that was a hacker...?

2 posted on 12/31/2008 10:03:25 AM PST by randog (Hope is a bad business plan.)
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I think it was announced at around the same time.


3 posted on 12/31/2008 10:07:23 AM PST by Toki ("Palin Pingers" Freepmail Liberity Rocks or me to get on the list today!)
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To: mlizzy
"... But unlike the Jimmy Stewart character, Sarah did not have the last say, for when she did have the chance to hammer Obama or Biden on abortion or other life issues, she rarely did, and by making the economy—not morality—the main issue, the Democrats of Death won handily."

I suspect that McVain's "handlers" were responsible for that, not Palin.

4 posted on 12/31/2008 10:09:03 AM PST by RightWingConspirator (Swiftboating: Revealing inconvenient truths about Democrat candidates)
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When you cut through all the verbiage, the bedrock point of this piece is Sarah’s pro-life position is more squishy now that she’s no longer a Roman Catholic, which she was born into, but a church-hopping Protestant...

And THAT more than anything else is why she didn’t stress it as much as the writer wished she had stressed it during the campaign.

Let me say, if the writer just wanted her to stress it more just because of it’s importance to him and certain others, that’s one thing.

But if he wanted her to stress it more, thinking it would’ve helped the McCain-Palin ticket win, that’s very different.

Of course it wouldn’t have, because hammering away at that particular issue wouldn’t have helped people go vote for them who already knew and didn’t turn out.

And that’s what we had.

The Dems held a turnout election and the Republicans held an election.

Studies show a few mil Conservative voters didn’t vote.

There’s no way Sarah harping on pro-life more would have stirred ‘em when they were bound to have known already about the Supreme Court picks at stake and Obama and Dems devotion to pro-death.

You don’t need harping. You just need to decide, do I vote at all when I’m unhappy with the choice of McCain, given what’s at stake if the other guy wins.

Which is what they decided.


6 posted on 12/31/2008 10:25:24 AM PST by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: RightWingConspirator

“... But unlike the Jimmy Stewart character, Sarah did not have the last say, for when she did have the chance to hammer Obama or Biden on abortion or other life issues, she rarely did, and by making the economy—not morality—the main issue, the Democrats of Death won handily.”
I suspect that McVain’s “handlers” were responsible for that, not Palin.

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Naturally. If McCain had allowed Palin to be, Palin, he’d of won the election — all on her skirt-tails. Can’t have that.


7 posted on 12/31/2008 10:25:46 AM PST by navymom1 (Save Free Speech, defeat the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: txrangerette

I’m Roman Catholic, and the RCC is itself squishy on being Pro-life. Not the Pope, but some of the Bishops and the priests are horrible. I’ve heard 50% of American Bishops voted for Obama.


8 posted on 12/31/2008 10:29:07 AM PST by SMCC1
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To: mlizzy

Sarah has demonstrated her pro-life stance simply by living it. While she has spoken about the subject, I think that her actions speak more loudly than any words could.


9 posted on 12/31/2008 10:29:46 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You are so off base it isn’t even funny. Nice to know that you think having a down’s syndrome child is the same as a child born addicted or with fetal alcohol syndrome. One never justs “pumps out” a baby. If you are a man you are ignorant. If you are a woman and you have children then you are a danger.


10 posted on 12/31/2008 10:30:50 AM PST by the long march
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To: the long march

Fertility is always a threat to those confused on issues of sexual morality.


11 posted on 12/31/2008 10:36:54 AM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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I understand (even though I’m not Catholic) that American Catholics even hierarchy feel free to pick and choose from the various aspects of Catholicism. The writer seemed to believe even this was better than those Protestant church’s without an official position from a Pope. I’m not accepting his views but tried to see what he was saying.

Bottom line: McCain-Palin couldn’t have won given how many stayed home even knowing what was at stake.

They didn’t want to vote for McCain or the GOP in general.


12 posted on 12/31/2008 10:38:47 AM PST by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Just curious, how many kids do you have?


13 posted on 12/31/2008 10:41:19 AM PST by panthermom
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To: mlizzy

People are not going to see the truth about abortion until we find a truly charismatic and powerful rhetorician to enchant them with a call to righteousness.


14 posted on 12/31/2008 10:44:31 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: the long march

I didn’t say they’re “the same”. But having (or adopting) a child with any of these conditions, or just large numbers of healthy normal children, should involve recognition that providing proper care to the child(ren) will require arranging one’s life around them.

With mom pursuing a high-profile and time-consuming political career, and dad purusing an career than involves being off in the oil fields for days or weeks at a time, the children are either being nanny-raised or left to their own devices. It’s plain to see what the outcome has been for Bristol, and there’s no sign that either of the Palin parents are responding to this by changing their priorities as their next two daughters enter/approach adolescence. This is hardly “devoted motherhood” (or fatherhood). The needs of the Palin children are not being allowed to interfere with their parents’ outside pursuits. If a woman calling herself a Democrat and feminist was running her family life this way, conservatives would be howling about her family being an example of how leftism and feminism are destroying the fabric of society.


15 posted on 12/31/2008 10:51:25 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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She may be an astute politician, and I have no reliable information about her devotion to her role as a wife, but she displays no devotion at all to the role of being a mother. Just continuing to pump out babies without regard to whether they're disabled doesn't cut it. Crack whores do that too.

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You have just voiced the pro-choice position. Is that what you intended? Being pro-life means valuing every life, not just the ones that are perfect or convenient.

16 posted on 12/31/2008 10:52:34 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

ugh..


17 posted on 12/31/2008 10:54:42 AM PST by alaskamomma
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To: GovernmentShrinker

ugh..


18 posted on 12/31/2008 10:55:21 AM PST by alaskamomma
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To: mlizzy
including the Assemblies of God and, more recently, a non-denom bible church. Since these churches do not have a definite stance on the issue

Bull!

The Assemblies of God has a very definitive stance on abortion.

Abortion. The Assemblies of God views the practice of abortion as an evil that has been inflicted upon millions of innocent babies and that will threaten millions more in the years to come. Abortion is a morally unacceptable alternative for birth control, population control, sex selection, and elimination of the physically and mentally handicapped. Certain parts of the world are already experiencing serious population imbalances as a result of the systematic abortion of female babies. The advocacy and practice of so-called partial birth abortion of babies is particularly heinous.

From:

http://ag.org/top/Beliefs/Position_Papers/pp_downloads/pp_4196_sanctity_human_life.pdf

19 posted on 12/31/2008 11:02:23 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I hope you feel better after getting that off your sunken little chest.


20 posted on 12/31/2008 11:05:10 AM PST by juggernaut
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