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Prof. Kmiec accuses ‘right wing’ Catholic bloggers of character assassination
CNA ^ | January 13, 2009

Posted on 01/13/2009 9:34:33 AM PST by NYer

Professor Douglas Kmiec

Washington DC, Jan 13, 2009 / 11:53 am (CNA).- In his first lengthy article explaining his position after the election of President Barack Obama, Professor Douglas Kmiec is accusing “right wing Catholic bloggers" of distorting his position, attacking him personally, and potentially poisoning the relationship between the Holy See and the future administration of President Barack Obama.

In the article entitled “A Tangled Web. The Election & the Blogosphere,” written for Commonweal magazine, Professor Kmiec explains that “as the author of a book whose title asked Can a Catholic Support Him? –and whose contents answered with an enthusiastic ‘Yes, we can!’- I have felt the animosity of those with an insatiable desire for political payback.”

“I’ve been subjected to unrelenting personal attacks launched from right-wing Catholic keyboards-blogs (and bloggers) so coarse and uncivil they make the insults of talk radio sound like actual journalism,” writes the law professor.

 “Further –he argues- the lack of civility that rules the right-wing Catholic blogosphere has infected mainstream Catholic journalism as well. In a syndicated assessment of the 2008 election, one usually thoughtful conservative columnist employed the following descriptions of Catholic Obama supporters: ‘decadent,’ ‘tribal,’ ‘immoral,’ ‘certainly stupid,’ ‘mindless,’ and in need of basic ‘adult education.’ And those were all in a single paragraph! Such highly concentrated rhetorical venom is not calculated to invite discussion.”

“My online tormentors,” Kmiec continues, “like to claim that their beef with me is my alleged abandonment of the prolife cause or willful misstatement of church teaching. Neither charge is true. I remain unabashedly prolife and I have never consciously misstated the doctrine of the church.”

“This essay,” Professor Kmiec further explains, “is not about abortion, but at least this much must be said: blog lies to the contrary, there is no real legislative interest in FOCA. The attempt to use FOCA to drive a wedge between the church and the incoming administration is unjustified”. He then warns the U.S. bishops: “the bishops, having stated clearly their opposition to FOCA-and rightly so-should not allow the right wing to obscure what Obama shares with the church: concern for the poor; support for the average family; a commitment to ending an unjust war; and respect for our environment.”

“Unless the sore losers of November 4 manage to poison the well, the Holy See and the Obama administration should be working more closely together in service to others than any administration in modern memory,” he opines.

Going back to his criticism of Catholic bloggers, Kmiec writes that “the scurrilous remarks of conservative bloggers missed the point, which was that I and millions of others who voted for Obama did so not despite our Catholic faith but because of it.”

“A hate-filled blogosphere,” argues Kmiec, after defending the sincerity of Obama’s religious beliefs, “feeds a politics of odium, misleading people of faith and good will, diminishing and at times obliterating our ability to know one another.

“Sadly, neighbor-love is not what has overwhelmed my in-box since my Obama endorsement. Instead, right-wing blogs and their readers have launched missiles of hate, delivering ad hominem invective of an astonishing vehemence and crassness.”

Professor Kmiec later laments in his essay that “to be remade by a hateful blogosphere has its price, I’ve learned. I worry that such invitations to speak at Catholic colleges, and the fruitful exchanges these invitations make possible, will be fewer.”

“One member –he says- of the U.S. hierarchy whom I greatly admire has renounced our past association, writing, ‘We are not friends, professor,’ and answering my invocation of Christian brotherhood with a curt retort: ‘I do see you as a brother in Christ –a brother who is serving an evil end.’ The greatest personal price I have paid is the loss of old-and the preemption of new-friendships.”

Kmiec also confesses that when America Magazine’s blogger Michael Sean Winters speculated that the Obama administration might name him as ambassador to the Holy See, he was “flattered” and started seriously thinking about the possibility.

But he claims that “neither God nor the president-elect had an opportunity to answer before the blogs were recycling their various calumnies, and adding now an anonymous voice allegedly saying ‘it would never happen.’”

Kmiec doesn’t reserve blame to “right wing” Catholic bloggers alone. In his essay, he says a role were played by “unfortunate remarks,” like the ones of Archbishop Raymond Burke calling the Democratic Party “the party of death,” and of Cardinal Francis Stafford at The Catholic University of America “describing some of the policies of the president-elect as ‘aggressive, disruptive, and apocalyptic.’”

But he takes again on “right-wing Catholic bloggers,” which “acting as a thinly disguised political front for the GOP, remain fixated on the goal of precipitating an unnecessary war between the Holy See and America’s next administration. It is dismaying to see a few American prelates and their ‘anonymous’ Vatican commentators acting as witting or unwitting coconspirators in this divisive action.”

Nevertheless, Professor Kmiec takes solace in the fact that “blogs have not closed the mind of the new president and, like Lincoln, he bears ‘malice toward none’ and manifests ‘charity for all’.”

“Even spinning a pervasive web of falsehood, the right-wing Catholic blogosphere is no match for the self-evident truth of that golden rule-nor would its bloggers want to be, were they to indulge a microsecond of charitable thought before hitting the send button,” he concludes.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bloggers; kmiec; obama
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1 posted on 01/13/2009 9:34:37 AM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

He doesn’t have a character worth assassinating.


2 posted on 01/13/2009 9:35:56 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

No, Dougie, you committed character suicide. You don’t have to ‘splain it to me, but I sure don’t envy you ‘splainin’ it to God.


3 posted on 01/13/2009 9:36:20 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: NYer

Yes, but he’s such a smooth talker! Let’s face it, the man is a born diplomat.


4 posted on 01/13/2009 9:40:58 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

Agreed. BTW, I have been noticing that Bambi’s “team” has been getting a lot of religious figures - ranging from Rick Warren to Vicki Gene - to do the honors at his Immaculate Inauguration, as Rush calls it. Do you think he’ll be able to find a Catholic?


5 posted on 01/13/2009 9:41:27 AM PST by livius
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To: NYer

0bama said words matter, Dougie. Therefore, when 0bama said the first piece of legislation he would sign would be the FOCA, we were taking him at his word. Oh, yeah that and his opposition to the Born Alive Act and the Mexico City policy, comments like ‘punished with a baby’ and a voting record to the left of the Hildebeast on abortion. So either 0bama make false promises, or he really is the most pro-abortion President in history. Either, 0bama was morally unacceptable to Catholics who actually follow their faith.


6 posted on 01/13/2009 9:42:59 AM PST by Lou Budvis ("I did not have sex with that woman..." = "I did not have contact with the governor..")
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To: NYer

Kmiec is simply as useless as all those other phony Republicans who kissed up to BHO.

Any TRUE Catholic knows that the catechism of our faith is diametrically at odds with the Party of Death.

Kmiec should leave the Church and the GOP.


7 posted on 01/13/2009 9:43:38 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: NYer

FOCA. “The first thing I would do is sign it.”

I believe that is a direct quote from Obama before Kmeic endorsed him.

Spin, only spin.


8 posted on 01/13/2009 9:44:02 AM PST by amihow
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To: NYer
"I remain unabashedly prolife..."

While unabashedly and wholeheartedly supporting a rabid pro-abort like Obama?
Tell me another whopper, Professor.
9 posted on 01/13/2009 9:46:05 AM PST by Deo volente
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To: NYer

Kmiec, be a man and stop whining. You made your bed with the devil, now lie in it. When your bosom buddy Obama signs FOCA, you can rest assured that some of the blood of those aborted babies will be on your hands. Repent and believe the Good News.


10 posted on 01/13/2009 9:46:07 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: NYer
“This essay,” Professor Kmiec further explains, “is not about abortion, but at least this much must be said: blog lies to the contrary, there is no real legislative interest in FOCA.

I may not be as smart as the Professor, but I'm not so foolish to believe that there is no "real" legislative interest in FOCA.

11 posted on 01/13/2009 9:48:46 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: NYer
Meanwhile, in realityville:

Right Wing Bloggers Accuse Kmiec of Character Suicide

12 posted on 01/13/2009 9:49:47 AM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: NYer

Yes, WE internet Catholics have the Pope’s ears. And the Pope is totally convinced based on rumors.

In your dreams, buddy. But maybe the Pope has READ with his own eyeballs the vile things you have written.


13 posted on 01/13/2009 9:51:23 AM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: NYer
Dougie Boy, I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's:

"I renounce any and all support I have ever given to the abortionist 0bama Regime, and I sincerely apologise for giving grave scandal in supporting it."

14 posted on 01/13/2009 9:51:48 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

I know Doug and His wife. First they are authentic and serious about their faith. 2nd. Doug is probably one of the most brilliant constitutional scholars alive today. 3. I can not explain his position on Obama for the life of me. I have not asked him either. It is truly one of those Huh? things that sometimes happens.


15 posted on 01/13/2009 9:52:33 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: NYer

“Right-wing” Catholic? To be Catholic IS to be conservative; to hold otherwise is to be NOT Catholic.

Liberal “Catholics” are not practicing the traditional Catholic Faith, they are practicing the heresy of Modernism. They are acting as “cafeteria” Catholics. Liberalism and the Catholic Faith are two diametrically opposed positions. One cannot lay claim to both and remain honest.

The Church’s position on abortion, and being an ACCESSORY to abortion, is quite clear. There is NO wiggle room on that point: Abortion is an intrinsic evil. The Churches position on homosexuality is also quite clear: Homosexual acts are an intrinsically disordered passion. The Church is also quite clear regarding property rights: Socialism and Marxism are anathema to that position. A Catholic in good standing CANNOT vote for a pro-abortion or pro-homosexual marriage politician; nor a Marxist or Socialist, without becoming and accomplice to the evil represented and propagated by those positions, period. More prudentially, to vote for a pro-abortion politician is to incur automatic excommunication.

Clear enough?


16 posted on 01/13/2009 9:53:12 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: NYer
Oh, yeah:

Quit wavin' yer hand around like that, Dougie. It makes you look just like your hero, "Zero".

17 posted on 01/13/2009 9:53:12 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

His argument that Obama has some things in common with the expressed political positions of the Catholic church is correct.

However, he conveniently “forgets” that he originally tried to say that Obama was the right choice for a pro-life Catholic, attempting to justify Obama ON THE PRO-LIFE issue.

It was that disingenous and scripture-twisting argument that earned him the rightful disrespect of the educated Catholic community, and indeed of pro-lifers of every religious persuasion.

Yes, the Catholic church opposes the war in Iraq. And yes, the Catholic church cares about the poor. But that wasn’t the argument Kmeic used to support Obama before the election.


18 posted on 01/13/2009 9:54:32 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NYer
Kmiec sounds like a man who is projecting his fantasy of Obama onto the real Obama, and who will be bitterly disappointed when the real Obama is revealed.

"I was misled!", he'll howl. No, Doug, you misled yourself.

19 posted on 01/13/2009 9:55:31 AM PST by Campion
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To: Walkingfeather

The cognitive dissonance between being “authentic and serious about their [Catholic] faith”, and support for 0bama-of-the-Dead-Babies ought to be sufficient to induce cranial detonation.


20 posted on 01/13/2009 9:56:08 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: livius
have been noticing that Bambi’s “team” has been getting a lot of religious figures - ranging from Rick Warren to Vicki Gene - to do the honors at his Immaculate Inauguration

Indeed ... he has even lined up a female pastor to deliver the sermon at the traditional National Prayer Service on January 21, the day after Barack Obama is sworn in as president. In an attempt to be 'inclusive', he has left out the other major religous groups ... what - no rabbi or imam!

Do you think he’ll be able to find a Catholic?

Fr. Andrew Greeley comes to mind but he is still recovering from injuries sustained in a freak fall late last year. Perhaps the omission is intentional to be interpreted as a snub towards Benedict XVI :-0 Personally, I am not offended as I plan to snub his inauguration and presidency.

21 posted on 01/13/2009 9:56:30 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: bboop

Wouldn’t it be kind of bad for a Catholic to suggest that the Pope is not in fact the rightful communicator of God’s message for the church, but is instead an easily-misled consumer of speculative internet postings?


22 posted on 01/13/2009 9:56:45 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NYer

The acid test to be a Democratic candidate or judical nominee is “how you stand on Roe -v- Wade”

No the poor or what ever else.

The Democrats are a one issue party - Abortion.

All real Catholics would be called ‘Right-Wing”, and proudly so, by this Pharasee.


23 posted on 01/13/2009 9:57:32 AM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: NYer
Mr. Kmiec, you're a tool.

This essay,” Professor Kmiec further explains, “is not about abortion, but at least this much must be said: blog lies to the contrary, there is no real legislative interest in FOCA

Obama said otherwise himself, and his voting record is clear. You were played for the fool you are at best, and at worst, are a fraud.

24 posted on 01/13/2009 10:00:09 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Don't blame me. I voted for McCain/Palin)
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To: TCH

Exactly and precisely. No ifs, ands, or buts. There is NO excuse for what Kmiec did. All he can do now is pray for forgiveness.


25 posted on 01/13/2009 10:01:25 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: NYer
“I’ve been subjected to unrelenting personal attacks launched from right-wing Catholic keyboards-blogs (and bloggers) so coarse and uncivil they make the insults of talk radio sound like actual journalism,” writes the law professor.

What a big cry baby. Doug, it is okay to sit on your pity potty every now and then. Just be sure to flush when you are done!

26 posted on 01/13/2009 10:01:34 AM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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...so coarse and uncivil they make the insults of talk radio sound like actual journalism,

Looks like you've swallowed a little propaganda whole, professor.

27 posted on 01/13/2009 10:01:37 AM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: livius

Sure: “Father” Pleger! He’s a great “Catholic.” (/s)


28 posted on 01/13/2009 10:06:29 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think the Pope and his aides can be misled by propaganda, ie, bloggers, “news” orgs, and even terrorists.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5473588.ece

Cardinal Martino, one of the Pope’s closest aides, said: “Defenceless populations are always the ones who pay. Look at the conditions in Gaza: more and more, it resembles a big concentration camp.”


29 posted on 01/13/2009 10:07:11 AM PST by roses of sharon ("No socialist system can be established without a political police.", Churchill -1945)
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"...the lack of civility that rules the right-wing Catholic blogosphere has infected mainstream Catholic journalism as well."

Has it ever occurred to this joker that he is the one who is out of step? Nah, it would never cross his narcissistic mind that he is simply WRONG. Did he get some token job with the O administration yet for his attempt to spread propaganda, or was it all for nothing?

30 posted on 01/13/2009 10:21:40 AM PST by penowa
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To: Walkingfeather

I know. I have had a Dr. friend, almost family, for years. One day he decides he believes in Socialized Medicine. HELLO?


31 posted on 01/13/2009 10:21:43 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: NYer
"and potentially poisoning the relationship between the Holy See and the future administration of President Barack Obama."

Obama has done a pretty good job of that himself with his global abortion, depopulation, and embryonic stem cell policies and appointing the pro-death Schiavo lawyer.

32 posted on 01/13/2009 10:24:16 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Walkingfeather

Smart people are sometimes erratic or eccentric in their thinking. Truly brilliant people are better at watching the road dividers.


33 posted on 01/13/2009 10:24:44 AM PST by Beeline
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To: NYer

Professor Douglas Kmiec, apologist for the Party of Death.


34 posted on 01/13/2009 10:45:09 AM PST by EasySt ( Fold Here! Fold Now! (Free Republic Folders)
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Doug, you are a skunk. And the only one who's character is called into question in that statement is the skunk.

What Kmiec did during the 2008 election puts him among the first ranks of traitors and apostates who are eagerly used by the Enemy. There's a warm place in Hell for such as he.
35 posted on 01/13/2009 10:59:37 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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Kmiec doesn’t reserve blame to “right wing” Catholic bloggers alone. In his essay, he says a role were played by “unfortunate remarks,” like the ones of Archbishop Raymond Burke calling the Democratic Party “the party of death,” and of Cardinal Francis Stafford at The Catholic University of America “describing some of the policies of the president-elect as ‘aggressive, disruptive, and apocalyptic.’”

When I hear things like this, I immediately think of poor deluded patriotic Catholic Germans in 1939....
36 posted on 01/13/2009 11:03:09 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: Walkingfeather
I can not explain his position on Obama for the life of me. I have not asked him either. It is truly one of those Huh? things that sometimes happens.

Yeah, and Robert Hanssen was a member of Opus Dei too. When things don't add up like this, I'm forced to go with weird conclusions like:

1.) the guy is a mole.
2.) the Democrats have something on him.
37 posted on 01/13/2009 11:06:00 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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So the “devout” Roman Catholic voted for the champion of sodomy and abortion? His actions speak for themsleves.


38 posted on 01/13/2009 11:34:33 AM PST by MSF BU (++)
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I plan to maintain total media silence that day! I think I’ll go out and spend it in the country with my horse.

Greely would probably be willing to do it. I wonder if any of the bishops would permit it, though. I’m a little worried that Wuerl, who is somewhat shaky in dealing with politicos, might let himself be used by Obama.


39 posted on 01/13/2009 11:53:18 AM PST by livius
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To: Antoninus

You left out the obvious explanation: the Devil like a roaring lion goes about seeking whom he may devour.

Hanssen was a sociopath, so he doesn’t count; Kmiec is probably just a very vain man who wants to be in with the in-crowd. That may seem insignificant, but for some people, it’s enough of a motivator to be their 30 pieces of silver (also not a huge sum!). The Devil finds a man’s weakness and uses it.


40 posted on 01/13/2009 11:55:58 AM PST by livius
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Dude....Thanks for standing up and denouncing the character attacks on Sarah Palin!

What? You didn’t? Never mind.


41 posted on 01/13/2009 11:56:24 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: livius
You left out the obvious explanation: the Devil like a roaring lion goes about seeking whom he may devour.

Excellent point. It only takes a tiny chink in the armor to turn a good man into Judas Iscariot.
42 posted on 01/13/2009 11:58:57 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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Prof. Kmiec, the reprobate, is trying to drive a wedge for satan and stigmatizing the “right wing” Catholics in order to justify his perverted politics.

I only wish Prof. Kmiec, the reprobate, well, may he reap the earthly benefits he so craves.

43 posted on 01/13/2009 12:06:29 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

totally agree


44 posted on 01/13/2009 2:25:33 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Antoninus

I think the same things sometimes. But in Dougs case he is a brilliant ( guys when I say brilliant I mean he is in his own class) presenter of his ideas. And for their to be some question that he was not clear is a bit odd.

It is just dumbfounding sort of like what we thought George Bush would govern like and what we ended with.


45 posted on 01/13/2009 2:30:18 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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Come on.....you guys are being totally unfair.....after all, he was out in front defending the choice of Sarah Palin to have her child.....showing his true Christian love for a little baby......and he was out in front to condemn the hate filled attacks on her....the man is a model catholic showing all of us true Christianity by his example.....And as far as his support for the ONE you people just don't understand the complexity and nuance of BO's mind....but he does don't you see?

Run along now children, our moral superior has spoken.

46 posted on 01/13/2009 4:50:54 PM PST by mick
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To: nina0113; NYer

Satan had a smooth tongue as well.......


47 posted on 01/13/2009 4:52:48 PM PST by tioga (Let us unite in prayer for our country.)
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To: Walkingfeather

One does not suddenly reverse one’s position the way he did without proper explanation and not invite scorn.


48 posted on 01/13/2009 5:59:59 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: NYer

I’m guilty. I think I said he was possessed by devils or had a brain tumor, bless his heart.


49 posted on 01/13/2009 6:48:41 PM PST by Tax-chick (To oppose the god of this world by lifting up Christ.)
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To: NYer

You shot yourself in the foot by supporting abortion, Doug. No REAL Catholic supports the killing of babies or the Democrat Party.

Go to Confession.


50 posted on 01/13/2009 6:50:04 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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