Posted on 01/20/2009 7:43:59 AM PST by Yosemitest
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I WILL NOT stoop to the depths of the left, who hate this country and what it stands for, therefore they pray that Republican presidents fail , even if they drag the country down with it..
Sorry, I don’t take you seriously.
Christians said similar things of Hitler.
I have no problem with the Scripture.
How one prays for evil leaders and how and to what point one submits to an evil leader is a huge topic.
You never read some of David’s prayers regarding his enemies?
How about some of the prophets of God’s prayers against the prophets of baal?
That’s your problem.
No problem at all, actually.
I’ll pray for the failure of his socialist policies, and that the truth is told about all corrupt and illegal activities within his administration.
LOL.
Have you considered that he was elected in order to help fulfill the prophesy in the Book of Revelation. There's going to be a war between the Muslims and Israel, and the US is not going to be a player. Maybe he was put in place to sideline us.
If, in fact, it is the end times you'd better be praying for your soul and your loved ones. I suspect that Obama may have already sold his soul to the Devil and be beyond redemption.
Along with Shrillery, if my sense is remotely accurate on that score.
Agree. Paul and others give pretty clear rules on what to pray for regarding rulers.
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Please weigh in on this one.
I won’t register.
Here is my vote: Yes, but also implore God’s protection for our nation while Obama personally goes down to defeat
In fact, we are told to pray for our enemies also.
The prayer is for God’s will to be done.
Obama has no delight in the Word of God.
Joseph Farah said it best in his article Pray Obama fails
It has become a sort of conventional wisdom among soft-minded believers. The biblical proof-text for this misguided way of thinking is Romans 13:1-4:
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
"For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."
Many a coward has been bolstered in his conviction against challenging tyranny by not reading too deeply into the Scriptures. Yet, nowhere does the Bible ever suggest evil rulers are to be obeyed. When the rule of men conflicts with the commands of God, the Bible leaves no doubt about where we should stand.
That's why I do not hesitate today in calling on godly Americans to pray that Barack Hussein Obama fail in his efforts to change our country from one anchored on self-governance and constitutional republicanism to one based on the raw and unlimited power of the central state.
It would be folly to pray for his success in such an evil campaign.
I want Obama to fail because his agenda is 100 percent at odds with God's. Pretending it is not simply makes a mockery of God's straightforward Commandments.
So you will not see me joining in the ritual of affirming Obama and his mission in public or private prayer this week – or any other week.
Instead, I uphold the words of Jesus in Matthew 15:14: "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." And I take warning from Isaiah 9:16: "For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed."
And please don't tell me about "rendering unto Caesar."
It's important to consider the circumstances and the audience behind Jesus' instructions to "render unto Caesar." The Sadducees were attempting to trap Jesus into advocating open contempt for Caesar. He recognized their wicked and hypocritical little game and answered them with a totally truthful response that astonished everyone.
But think about it. There are two components to Jesus' words. We are to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's," but we are also to "render unto God the things that are God's. Well, everything ultimately belongs to God. But, most of all, this injunction by Jesus instructs us that government laws cannot trump God's laws – ever.
If government commands you to do evil, as a Christian you must resist. There is no alternative. Citing the "render unto Caesar" line is an apologetic for accountability to God – nothing more, nothing less.
Furthermore, it needs to be pointed out that in America we don't have a Caesar. Never have, never will. You see, our system of government is called a free republic, and it is based on the concept of constitutional self-government. We have no "rulers" in America – except ourselves and our God. We believe in the rule of law, not the rule of men.
This is an important distinction, not a semantic one.
Nowhere in the Bible does it teach us to obey evil rulers. Nowhere.
This is a time for principled biblical resistance, not phony Christian appeasement.
You might want to read this one, also.
Plus the surprise his supporters will get when he starts inviting Christian Evangelists to the White-house all the time. To see the Drive-by-Media's take on that would be priceless. There is always hope for change. :)
I do pray for God to providentially protect and care for His own through the hard times to come.
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