Skip to comments.Freep This Poll: *** Pray For Obama's Failure
Posted on 01/20/2009 7:43:59 AM PST by Yosemitest
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Along with Shrillery, if my sense is remotely accurate on that score.
Agree. Paul and others give pretty clear rules on what to pray for regarding rulers.
Please weigh in on this one.
I won’t register.
Here is my vote: Yes, but also implore God’s protection for our nation while Obama personally goes down to defeat
In fact, we are told to pray for our enemies also.
The prayer is for God’s will to be done.
Joseph Farah said it best in his article Pray Obama fails
It has become a sort of conventional wisdom among soft-minded believers. The biblical proof-text for this misguided way of thinking is Romans 13:1-4:
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
"For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."
Many a coward has been bolstered in his conviction against challenging tyranny by not reading too deeply into the Scriptures. Yet, nowhere does the Bible ever suggest evil rulers are to be obeyed. When the rule of men conflicts with the commands of God, the Bible leaves no doubt about where we should stand.
That's why I do not hesitate today in calling on godly Americans to pray that Barack Hussein Obama fail in his efforts to change our country from one anchored on self-governance and constitutional republicanism to one based on the raw and unlimited power of the central state.
It would be folly to pray for his success in such an evil campaign.
I want Obama to fail because his agenda is 100 percent at odds with God's. Pretending it is not simply makes a mockery of God's straightforward Commandments.
So you will not see me joining in the ritual of affirming Obama and his mission in public or private prayer this week or any other week.
Instead, I uphold the words of Jesus in Matthew 15:14: "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." And I take warning from Isaiah 9:16: "For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed."
And please don't tell me about "rendering unto Caesar."
It's important to consider the circumstances and the audience behind Jesus' instructions to "render unto Caesar." The Sadducees were attempting to trap Jesus into advocating open contempt for Caesar. He recognized their wicked and hypocritical little game and answered them with a totally truthful response that astonished everyone.
But think about it. There are two components to Jesus' words. We are to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's," but we are also to "render unto God the things that are God's. Well, everything ultimately belongs to God. But, most of all, this injunction by Jesus instructs us that government laws cannot trump God's laws ever.
If government commands you to do evil, as a Christian you must resist. There is no alternative. Citing the "render unto Caesar" line is an apologetic for accountability to God nothing more, nothing less.
Furthermore, it needs to be pointed out that in America we don't have a Caesar. Never have, never will. You see, our system of government is called a free republic, and it is based on the concept of constitutional self-government. We have no "rulers" in America except ourselves and our God. We believe in the rule of law, not the rule of men.
This is an important distinction, not a semantic one.
Nowhere in the Bible does it teach us to obey evil rulers. Nowhere.
This is a time for principled biblical resistance, not phony Christian appeasement.
You might want to read this one, also.
Plus the surprise his supporters will get when he starts inviting Christian Evangelists to the White-house all the time. To see the Drive-by-Media's take on that would be priceless. There is always hope for change. :)
I do pray for God to providentially protect and care for His own through the hard times to come.
Excessive confiscatory taxes, much more stringent regulations and big government spending will always fail at revitalizing economies. You don’t need to pray, Obama is quite assured to fail all by himself. If Government spending was the way to prosperity, the USSR would still be around and I would be on a boat bound for Leningrad...
Ditto! I would like to add, that the very same God who converted Saul has not lost His touch. God can give Obama a new name, just like He did me.
Single issue types run into that problem all the time.
Good luck with that.
After that, I hope he sees the error of his ways and repents, especially of his support for the wanton slaughter of the unborn. If he does that, then I personally will take a different view of him. We can then work to convince him to adopt reasonably conservative positions on other issues.
Lacking that, as to his stated agenda and if he pursues it, I hope he fails politically. Fails miserably. I hope nothing he proposes or enacts that aligns with his stated agenda succeeds. Yes, that failure may cause damage to the country. But that damage will be less than if his stated agenda succeeds.
The third alternative may seem harsh, but we as a country are at a point of no return. If we pursue the path Obomba has charted, we may go the route of other tyrannies and failed collectivist societies. Like the Bolshevik Revolution and the ascension and subsequent failure of the USSR, we may suffer through nearly a century of misery only to have the whole rotten edifice collapse and force us to start fresh. If so, better to minimize the suffering and shorten the dark ages.
The 109th psalm comes to mind when praying for leaders that oppress and rule unjustly.
I'm not happy about ill befalling another person, or family, but let's remember how education is done. Nothing is more educational than a significant emotional event. And nothing drives us closer to God than the same.
Now let's get started:
We must pray that every policy, law, and executivce order that Mister Obama puts forth, be brought into his family, for the edification of others, as well as Obama.
Do I make my point clear?
It's partly personal experience. I went through the usual college-age experiences with humanism and atheism and was persuaded with logic and reasoning to turn away from those. Same on the abortion issue. No ill befell me. It was simply a sincere change of heart. Maybe Obama will have a similar experience.
Oh, there is a lot more then this single issue, tons. If this was the only issue it would be enough. If you don’t think so you need to check in with your conscience. It is not luck you need but help from The LORD so that you can discern what is truly important in this life. May The LORD, by His grace, help you.
I’m fine with my conscience, thanks.
I plan on giving Obama as much respect as was given to George Bush. Which was none.
To each their own.