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Is it possible to know the *Year* of Jesus Christ return to earth?
Vanity | Jan 21st, 2009 | TARA

Posted on 01/21/2009 11:41:00 AM PST by TaraP

Based on Scripture? The Second Coming statement causing confusion and deception in the household of God is, “No one knows about that day or hour.”

Jesus made this statement about the exact time of His return during the Olivet Discourse. This expression has been incorrectly interpreted by many, thinking that it means we will be unable to determine the general time of the Second Coming.

The statement is clear and precise. It says, “No one knows about that day or hour.” It does not say, no one knows the general time of the Coming (THE YEAR). As a matter of fact Scripture does indicate that we will be aware of His Coming and we will not be surprised, “as you see the Day approaching” (Hebrews 10:25). Paul also said, “But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief” (1 Thessalonians 5:4).

Repeatedly, Jesus told of the increasing deception that will come in the last days. He commanded us to watch and stay alert so we would not be deceived by the world and get caught off guard. This is what He said during the Olivet Discourse.

Noah with the unbelievers the “people,” “they” and “them.” Noah knew when that day was coming, God actually told him when to get in the ark. However, the world was caught completely by surprise even though Noah preached to them, 2 Peter 2:5.

Here is what He said,

No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. It's like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.

Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back--whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: 'Watch!' (Mark 13:32-37)


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1 posted on 01/21/2009 11:41:02 AM PST by TaraP
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To: TaraP

No


2 posted on 01/21/2009 11:42:17 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Admin Moderator

Please repair the word POSSIBLE at the top...

THANK YOU!


3 posted on 01/21/2009 11:42:34 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

It will be the year people stop making predictions.


4 posted on 01/21/2009 11:43:29 AM PST by mnehring
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To: TaraP

I know a guy named Jesus that mows my lawn. Is he the one you’re looking for?

Her returns every Thusday. Hope that helps.


5 posted on 01/21/2009 11:44:37 AM PST by Tequila25 (Conservatism is common sense.)
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To: TaraP

Found this in Nostradamus’ writings.....In the Year that the redbirds rise out of the desert and beats the beast from the city of steel look to the heavens for the time is near.

Translation - Cardinals beating the Steelers in the Super Bowl


6 posted on 01/21/2009 11:44:46 AM PST by GUNGAGALUNGA
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To: mnehrling

A Prediction would be:
Jesus is coming March 1st 2009 at 2 p.m


7 posted on 01/21/2009 11:45:19 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP
He will return tomorrow at the latest -- possibly this evening.

If you behave any other way ... well, good luck.

(I can't claim any superiority. I'm hoping for a really merciful Return....)

8 posted on 01/21/2009 11:45:34 AM PST by r9etb
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To: TaraP
No, it's supposed to be a surprise so people won't live their lives in sin and ask for forgiveness the day before it happens.
9 posted on 01/21/2009 11:46:34 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: TaraP

No, the parable of the wedding in the bible says so.


10 posted on 01/21/2009 11:47:28 AM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Tequila25

I am sorry I didn’t think of that one.


11 posted on 01/21/2009 11:48:36 AM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: TaraP

Will he have to produce a birth certificate when he does?

(sorry, no offense to our religious types in the forum, just a little joke)


12 posted on 01/21/2009 11:48:52 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

That is not correct, it states in the Bible that wicked people will still deny him the day he does return....


13 posted on 01/21/2009 11:48:54 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: TaraP

“No one knows the time or the hour, not even the Son, only God the Father” Matthew 24:36


14 posted on 01/21/2009 11:49:34 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: TaraP

I’m ready whenever He comes, so it doesn’t concern me a lot.


15 posted on 01/21/2009 11:49:55 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: svcw

Yes it was 1-20-09 Everyone knows that!


16 posted on 01/21/2009 11:49:58 AM PST by Holicheese (Get up Tom Brady, get up! PLEASE!!)
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To: TaraP

Dec. 21st, 2012


17 posted on 01/21/2009 11:50:33 AM PST by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: svcw

No. But there is some indication from the Bible that you can know the “season”.


18 posted on 01/21/2009 11:50:53 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Badeye

Nostraamus predict obama?

243
The great empire will be torn from limb,
The all-powerful one for more than four hundred years:
Great power given to the dark one from slaves come,
The Aryana will not be satisfied thereby.


19 posted on 01/21/2009 11:50:56 AM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Holicheese

Good one.


20 posted on 01/21/2009 11:51:26 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I understand it says (TIME and HOUR)

I am asking is TIME meaning the literal time? 2:00 9:a.m etc
OR time as in the future..2009 2015 etc..

Jesus us gave us sings about the End Times....


21 posted on 01/21/2009 11:53:06 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

True. We do know that certain things will pass but from the last thing to the return only God knows when.


22 posted on 01/21/2009 11:53:45 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Perdogg

America wasn’t all powerful in the 1600s...


23 posted on 01/21/2009 11:55:34 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: TaraP

Oh yes of course!
Within four days that is.
I always thought wednesday was a good guess.


24 posted on 01/21/2009 11:56:17 AM PST by Tigen
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To: Tequila25

Jesus billboard provokes controversy
http://larknews.com/december_2003/secondary.php?page=5


25 posted on 01/21/2009 11:56:52 AM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
right, but the Pilgrims did land in the 17th century.
26 posted on 01/21/2009 11:57:00 AM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: TaraP
It is for psychics and other charlatans.
27 posted on 01/21/2009 11:57:00 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You give peace a chance. I'll stay back here and cover you, just in case it don't work out.)
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To: TaraP
So what in your crazed mind believes he would want to come back to join this crowd? Any Deity in his right mind would look at this planet and go somewhere else!
28 posted on 01/21/2009 11:59:56 AM PST by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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To: TaraP
Was there enough information in the O.T. to identify the Messiah when He came on the scene? There is certainly enough information in the scripture to know what signs lead to the final turn of events.

Having said that, one of those signs are mockers and scoffers who will tell you that all things are the same, nothing has changed, the sun comes up and it sets...just as everyday before it....blah, blah, blah...

I recommend the following:

Consecrate yourselves.
Get your households in order.
Purify yourselves and the Church – casting out apostates, wolves in sheep clothing, and those living in unrepentant sin in your midst.
Wake up – Bride of Christ – cease living as though tomorrow is just the same as yesterday.
Tell everyone of the coming wrath. If they will not listen, shake the dust off your sandals and move on quickly. Leave the “calling out” to the LORD.
Do not fear; be of great courage and boldness.
Pray for there to be ears to hear and eyes to see….the Truth. “Thy Word is Truth.”
Prepare the way of the LORD.
Praise the Worthy Lamb, for His Kingdom is near.

29 posted on 01/21/2009 12:00:28 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: TaraP
the one clue scripture gives, is the times will be like the days of Noah. Today would fit that just right. Church membership is at one of the lowest since who knows when. Church leaders are mocked, and the church itself (all denominations) are subject to jokes and ridicule.
30 posted on 01/21/2009 12:01:56 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: TaraP
Is it possible to know the *Year* of Jesus Christ return to earth?

Definitely...just not until after it happens.

31 posted on 01/21/2009 12:03:28 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Let's get to altering or abolishing!)
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To: TaraP

Surely. Hebrew Custom is that the Earth will last 6000 years. So you just google Jewish Calendar and subtract the current Jewish year from 6000 and you’ll get approximately the answer you’re looking for. Since neither you nor I will be around by then, our “end of the world” will have already occurred and it won’t matter. (6000-5768=232 more years) (give or take)


32 posted on 01/21/2009 12:04:14 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated ("...there are two things in Washington that are unbalanced—the budget and the liberals." R Reagan)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

I believe Adam is 6000 yrs old...


33 posted on 01/21/2009 12:07:32 PM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Perdogg

if any nostradamus is true, it’s from some kind of evil power IMHO. I’ve looked into it, and yes some things might be said to be true.

But it seems to me that ALWAYS with his stuff, you only know AFTER the event, and it’s never of any use to anyone before, so it’s useless and frustrating.

Compare that with the prophecies of the Bible, which are good, and are known before they happen, then they happen. The Bible also has what I call “eternal prophesies” like “egypt will never again be a great nation” (ez 29:15), written 3000 years ago. If egypt ever again was a great nation, every scoffer could point at the Bible and say it was wrong. But that will never happen. This is a great argument against what most anti-Bible people say, because if it was written by a charlatan, pretending, why would they stick their neck on the line? Why not just keep everything nice and general. And there are many “eternal prophecies” in the Bible.

Stick to the Bible & stay away from nostradamus IMO.


34 posted on 01/21/2009 12:07:54 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: TaraP
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35 posted on 01/21/2009 12:07:57 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Don’t worry, I don’t believe in Nostradamus. I am a christian, I was being funny.


36 posted on 01/21/2009 12:12:14 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: TaraP

You just don’t have the right biblical prophecy decryption algorithm, but I am willing to sell you mine now that I’ve decrypted the entire bible, Webster’s new abridged dictionary, and 2006 NFL rule book.


37 posted on 01/21/2009 12:14:33 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: TaraP

Noah did not know the day or the hour either. He only was doing what He was told to do, for about 120 years. He knew it was very close when God began rounding up the animals to go up into the ark. Then when Noah was told to get himself and his sons and their wives into the ark, they knew. When the rain came, something which had not occurred (at least it was not ever mentioned before this) before, well, the rest is history.

Noah could see signs it was getting closer. But I wouldn’t say he knew when it was going to happen. I am sure he may even have known it might have some correlation with the death of Methuselah, as his name means “he sends his death”, or “with his death brings”, or “his death will bring”. But Noah would not have any knoweldge about when Methusaleh was supposed to die either, only that he would not live past 1000 years, and he died at age 969, so there was still a period of uncertainty about exactly when the flood would occur.

I can tell you this with confidence. first, the last 2000 years we have been in the last days. Second, with the rebirth of israel as a nation we are in the end times. Third, we see more and more nations of the world aligning against Israel and what a stumbling block this one little country is for all of the world. Fourth, we see consolidation and globalism and everyone wanting peace and security at the expense of freedom, looking to government to save them. we are very close to Christ’s return. 2000 years closer, every day closer.

We may be spared from the final great tribulation, we may not and may have to go through it. But we will be going through it with our eyes open and seeing things for what they are, we will not get swept up and believe the lies.


38 posted on 01/21/2009 12:14:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

We won’t know the day or hour, however there are indications that we will know the season. If not, why would we be instructed to watch? But at any rate, of course, we should always be ready. And we should be doing our best to get others ready.


39 posted on 01/21/2009 12:14:57 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: TaraP
I believe Adam is 6000 yrs old...

Then Adam must be one very tired and very wrinkly old dude : )>
40 posted on 01/21/2009 12:16:59 PM PST by Caramelgal (My employer had a room for us to watch the Obamination. I, on the other hand had actual work to do.)
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To: Perdogg

Is that a real Nostradmas quatrain or one of the made up ones?


41 posted on 01/21/2009 12:17:55 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Herakles

Actually, He doesn’t want to join this crowd (as you say). He wants us to join Him. Most won’t, but it’s an open invitation.


42 posted on 01/21/2009 12:19:45 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: brytlea

real.


43 posted on 01/21/2009 12:21:37 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Perdogg

Interesting, and kinda spooky.


44 posted on 01/21/2009 12:23:16 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: TaraP

NO


45 posted on 01/21/2009 12:27:59 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: Dixie Yooper

I don’t see how that would matter since He already knows what people are going to do.


46 posted on 01/21/2009 12:30:18 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: brytlea

It sounds like Arianna Huffington will turn against him! ;)


47 posted on 01/21/2009 12:30:35 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Aren’t they the same?


48 posted on 01/21/2009 12:31:11 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Graybeard58

Me too, He already knows everything I’m going to do.


49 posted on 01/21/2009 12:32:10 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: Perdogg

OK, you actually made me laugh out loud!


50 posted on 01/21/2009 12:35:08 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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