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To: GonzoII; kosta50; MarkBsnr; Forest Keeper; stfassisi; maryz; HarleyD

“And thus He became man that He might make man divine.”

In many senses, this is the encapsulation of the theology of The Church. Its a line, in any of its varied forms, that I particularly love. It is also completely rejected by the “elect” of Calvinism and so far as I can see, most of the ecclesial descendants of the Reformers of the 16th century save perhaps for some Anglicans and Lutherans.

Aquinas’ presentation of this theology in the context of a discussion of the Creed is particularly telling in this regard since it is, in my opinion, the defective or perhaps undeveloped Christology and Trinitarian theology of the protestants which leads them away from this mst basic Christian Truth.


3 posted on 01/23/2009 3:55:54 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
“And thus He became man that He might make man divine.”

We can actually say now (in humble gratitude and joy) after the Incarnation, that it's "Family Business" now, among all of us and the Trinity.

4 posted on 01/23/2009 4:22:01 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Kolokotronis; GonzoII; kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; maryz; HarleyD
"And thus He became man that He might make man divine.”

In many senses, this is the encapsulation of the theology of The Church. Its a line, in any of its varied forms, that I particularly love. It is also completely rejected by the “elect” of Calvinism and so far as I can see, most of the ecclesial descendants of the Reformers of the 16th century save perhaps for some Anglicans and Lutherans.

Could it be semantic? For instance, do you say that Divinity is part of God's essence? If so, that would clash with the Orthodox belief that man may not partake of God's essence. I mean, the LDS also claim man can become Divine, so we need to distinguish. :)

[Aquinas:] Valentinus believed that Christ was conceived by the Holy Ghost, but would have the Holy Spirit deposit a heavenly body in the Blessed Virgin, so that she contributed nothing to Christ's birth except to furnish a place for Him. Thus, he said, this Body appeared by means of the Blessed Virgin, as though she were a channel. This is a great error, for the Angel said: "And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."[12] And the Apostle adds: "But when the fullness of time was come, God sent His Son, made of a woman."[13] Hence the Creed says: "Born of the Virgin Mary."

I remember a long time ago Kosta and I had a long talk about this. I got ripped for saying that Jesus had Mary's DNA in Him. Good to know I have Aquinas to quote for this now. :)

9 posted on 01/26/2009 3:41:31 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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