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To: Kolokotronis; GonzoII; kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; maryz; HarleyD
"And thus He became man that He might make man divine.”

In many senses, this is the encapsulation of the theology of The Church. Its a line, in any of its varied forms, that I particularly love. It is also completely rejected by the “elect” of Calvinism and so far as I can see, most of the ecclesial descendants of the Reformers of the 16th century save perhaps for some Anglicans and Lutherans.

Could it be semantic? For instance, do you say that Divinity is part of God's essence? If so, that would clash with the Orthodox belief that man may not partake of God's essence. I mean, the LDS also claim man can become Divine, so we need to distinguish. :)

[Aquinas:] Valentinus believed that Christ was conceived by the Holy Ghost, but would have the Holy Spirit deposit a heavenly body in the Blessed Virgin, so that she contributed nothing to Christ's birth except to furnish a place for Him. Thus, he said, this Body appeared by means of the Blessed Virgin, as though she were a channel. This is a great error, for the Angel said: "And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."[12] And the Apostle adds: "But when the fullness of time was come, God sent His Son, made of a woman."[13] Hence the Creed says: "Born of the Virgin Mary."

I remember a long time ago Kosta and I had a long talk about this. I got ripped for saying that Jesus had Mary's DNA in Him. Good to know I have Aquinas to quote for this now. :)

9 posted on 01/26/2009 3:41:31 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; GonzoII; kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; maryz; HarleyD

“Could it be semantic? For instance, do you say that Divinity is part of God’s essence?”

Divinity is a Divine attribute in which we may share as we were created in the image and likeness of God. Divinity is NOT the essence of God or a part of it. And you are of course correct that humanity may not partake of the Divine Essence which is shared only in the union of The Trinity AND in the union of God and man in Christ. As for LDS “theology”, I honestly don’t know enough about it to comment. It has thus far not struck me as even remotely Christian let alone Patristic.

“I got ripped for saying that Jesus had Mary’s DNA in Him.”

If you interpreted what Kosta said correctly, my dear Balkan mountain bandit brother was dead wrong!


10 posted on 01/26/2009 4:22:22 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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