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An Act of Abortion? In The Bible?
01/26/2009 | Responsibility2nd

Posted on 01/26/2009 7:49:31 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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1 posted on 01/26/2009 7:49:31 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: wagglebee

Abortion ping.


2 posted on 01/26/2009 7:50:22 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

A Child born and tossed in a field is murder, not abortion.


3 posted on 01/26/2009 8:03:34 AM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I doubt this scripture has anything to do with abortion. It is God describing through Ezekiel the nature of the nation of Israel, how they were an outcast and how they owed all they were to him.


4 posted on 01/26/2009 8:05:27 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: joesbucks
A child that could have survived if it had been born but is instead ripped from it's mother's womb is also murder. Μολὼν λάβε
5 posted on 01/26/2009 8:06:24 AM PST by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)")
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To: P8riot
This scripture is very relevant. Ezekiel tried to warn Israel that their acts of infant sacrifice were such an abomination to The Lord that he would turn his back on them. They wouldn't listen and so he left. Ezekiel says the sound of God leaving was like the sound of mighty water that he actually heard (think Niagra Falls?). In our time we have "multiculturalism" and our nation that was founded unmistably on Christian values (if you have any doubt about this I am certain others could bury you in references from the Founders to this end) now shares the public space with Human Secularism which IS a religion even if there are no houses of worship per se. Human Secularism has it's tithe (the Federal Tax) and it has it's sacrament (abortion). It is a religion of idolatry. The Lord will not long tolerate our idolatry and the Blessings of Liberty we have enjoyed for two ceturies are at risk because of our idolatry. This is extremely relevant scripture. Μολὼν λάβε
6 posted on 01/26/2009 8:12:32 AM PST by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)")
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To: joesbucks

Abortion and Murder are one and the same


7 posted on 01/26/2009 8:16:35 AM PST by Mind Freed
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To: Responsibility2nd

While I am 100% opposed to murdering the unborn, and opposed to government either allowing it, endorsing it, or funding it, I think that this take off of Ezekiel is one of the most ridiculous manipulations of Scripture I have ever seen.


8 posted on 01/26/2009 8:20:29 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: joesbucks

“A Child born and tossed in a field is murder, not abortion.”

It’s both. Abortion is a euphemism for murder as it is.


9 posted on 01/26/2009 8:27:44 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: John Leland 1789; Mind Freed

I read a Bible verse (I forget which one), which states, “Anyone who causes a pregnant woman to lose her baby shall be stoned to death.”


10 posted on 01/26/2009 8:28:07 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: John Leland 1789

You can’t find the symbolism in this passage between killing an unwanted child and the act of abortion?

I suspect your ability to read and interpret other symbolic passages - such as the Parables - is just about nil.


11 posted on 01/26/2009 8:33:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: P8riot

God uses Israel through out the Old Testament as a symbol of his chosen people. This verse can describe abortion, however I can see yours and others point about this verse being taken out of context a little bit. Exegesis can be dangerous when reading the bible if not read in the context, but in this case, I don’t think it is very far off.


12 posted on 01/26/2009 8:39:08 AM PST by Mind Freed
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To: Responsibility2nd

Obama says that “when life begins” is above his pay grade.

Can you be “a little bit pregnant”? There lies the answer.


13 posted on 01/26/2009 8:43:39 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal imigration)
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To: wastoute
What separates man from beast is the soul. Scripture says Adam received his soul when God breathed into his nostrils.

That's why it's abortion before birth and murder after.

14 posted on 01/26/2009 8:45:37 AM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: joesbucks
Scripture says Adam received his soul when God breathed into his nostrils.

Really?

Reference please.

15 posted on 01/26/2009 8:48:52 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Scripture is about Israel's sin. God is telling them they would be nothing without Him. The field they were tossed in was Egypt. God alone rescued them from their ordeal. A quick look at Mathew Henry's Commentaries would explain every word and verse.

Abortion is, OTOH as old as murder, and that started in the Garden. The trick to understanding God is to see how He describes things with His Word. Things He loves include children and wives. He uses references to children to describe His love for us. I don't think you can find one instance in the Bible that makes a child an unwanted thing. Most references seem to make a barren woman "cursed", and God "blesses" them with a miracle child. When Israel strayed from Him, He described them as "adulterous" or whores and prostitutes.

He is just describing His feelings towards the people He loves as they hurt Him. God has done everything to show His love for us, yet we reject Him at every turn. He gave His Son for us even before we have repented, yet we still fight His Will. I'm sure God could come up with some meaningful metaphors for us, but rejecting Him even after he took us in from a field, naked and alone, helpless as a baby, dumped off as trash in a field, is pretty powerful stuff. We were orphaned and He adopted us. We are helpless in this world, yet He provides all our needs. You would think some respect and gratitude would be in order, but our stiff necks seem to get in the way.

16 posted on 01/26/2009 8:54:06 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Responsibility2nd

It is this type of misuse of Scripture that makes the anti-abortion folks seem so out there. Make your arguments based on life or whatever but do not misuse the word of God to please yourself


17 posted on 01/26/2009 8:54:41 AM PST by the long march
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To: the long march

See reply # 11.

Applies to you too.


18 posted on 01/26/2009 9:03:50 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: a fool in paradise

“Can you be “a little bit pregnant”? There lies the answer.”

The perfect answer is “If it’s not really a baby, you’re not really pregnant.”

So, if you’re not really pregnant, an abortion becomes unnecessary.


19 posted on 01/26/2009 9:09:24 AM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: PhilCollins
I read a Bible verse (I forget which one), which states, “Anyone who causes a pregnant woman to lose her baby shall be stoned to death.”

It is in the descriptions under the 10 commandments....

Exodus 21

Starting with 21:22 through 21:25

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0221.htm

20 posted on 01/26/2009 9:13:32 AM PST by LowOiL (Tagline: Optional, printed after your name on post)
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