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Posted on 02/07/2009 6:16:04 PM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
World Net Daily has done it again and is also on the cutting edge informing the world. As I was making the rounds on my favorite news web sites, I saw the title on WND - Stimulus to ban religious worship. As I started to read the piece I was amazed to find what also was stuffed into this big pork sandwich called the Stimulus bill. This Stimulus bill was written totally for and by the Socialist Left Democratic Party of America. The ingredients of this bill are 93 % pork and 7% stimulus. This Stimulus bill is none other then a Trojan horse full of bureaucracy and a leftist leaning agenda to dramatically change the course of the United States of America forever. What is most alarming is that this bill will most likely pass. We as a nation are on the precipice of absolute social change and full blown secular socialism. Our leaders in Washington are seeking more and more power. This bill is an absolute abomination to all that our founding Fathers held so dear and fought so hard to preserve. At the core of our Founders ideal was the Freedom of Religious practice. Our country was founded on these very Judean/Christian values, everything that the Left hates and despises.
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The fate of our offspring rests upon our shoulders.
its time to arm the bears
The details of this sinister destruction of America by Zero and the US Congress needs to be up on billboards across the country.
To all........ did you see Sen. DeMint’s you tube. It will blow you away! To arms! To arms!
WND is exaggerating again, as usual.
The claim that the stimulus bill limits religious liberty is way overblown (WorldNutDaily — big surprise).
It says that government money intended for building improvements can’t be spent on buildings that are “used for worship.” The WND article claims that a student praying in a dormitory may cause it to qualify as a building “used for worship.”
This is nonesense, as the bill pretty clearly is discussing institution, not personal, uses of the buildings. If the university sponsors prayer meetings in the dorm, it MIGHT fall under this provision — if someone wants to be a jerk about it. But if it’s just students praying of their own volition, it doesn’t apply.
obama.exe, smash your hard drive with a hammer and start over.
Communist Party Hails New Obama Era
Just in case anyone is still under any delusion just how far left Mr. Obama and the Democrat Party are, here is a reminder the head of the Communist Party USA. http://sweetness-light.com/archive/communist-party-hails-new-obama-era#comments
Yo..did you see the DeMint you tube from the senate floor...my man.. look into it a little my brother...
If the disingenuous jerks wrote such insidious language into this trecherous bill, you think they're not going to be dangerous jerks after this piece of dog-doo passes? Since when should Marxists be trusted?
If the disingenuous jerks wrote such insidious language into this trecherous bill, you think they're not going to be dangerous jerks after this piece of dog-doo passes? Since when should Marxists be trusted?You are assuming that the people who wrote this provision had the intention of enforcing it like that. I don't see any evidence for this assumption. Indeed, any attempt to enforce it like that will probably end up in court and common sense will prevail.
Of all the problems with the bill, I can't believe anyone is getting worked up over this one.
I agree with this.
Just whose version of religious truth would you have the government subsidize, TIF, surely not those of the Mohammedans; what about those of “Christian” heretics?
“There has never been a Nation as the USA which was founded on Judean/Christian values.”
That’s simply untrue. Christian nations, as committed, if not more so, to Christian values as America, existed for rather more than 1000 years before anyone ever heard of the U.S. These Christian societies determined what “Biblical Christianity” is by determining what the canon of Scripture would be.
There is a separate forum here on FR for bloggers and vanity posts. You might consider taking advantage of it.
Well name some..Great Britan maybe?
“Well name some..Great Britan maybe?”
The Byzantine Empire, Georgia, Armenia, Russia, Ukraine Ethiopia, Serbia....Shall I go on?
Oh, and I meant to add, whatever other virtues British Christians may have had in the 8th century, or earlier for that matter, they had nothing to do with the establishment of the canon of Scripture.
Yo... you sound like a lib..Humm..A seminar Freeper...Yo my man..don’t be hating...it’s an open forum..and Obama hasn’t taking all our freedoms yet don’t take away mine..lol!
“...flead to America to worship God with a newly printed English Bible (1570-1610) in their own language with out losing their head or being burning at a stake for having one!...how bout them apples..lol!”
Greeks and Arabs and Copts and Slavs and Amenians, as well as Christians in Iraq, Iran and India have worshiped God in their own languages since day 1. That The Church in the West used Latin and enforced its usage with an axe is no fault of The Church in East, TIF. We had nothing to do with that. Don’t fall into the trap of applying history made up to justify protestant animosity towards the Roman Church to Eastern Christianity.
“to Worship God with out Monarch or Papal persecution...flead to America to worship God with a newly printed English Bible (1570-1610) in their own language with out losing their head or being burning at a stake for having one!...how bout them apples..lol! that my dear friend is what sets America apart from Others..”
I am astonished that you show neither knowledge of nor appreciation for the 1400 years of oppression Christians in the East have suffered under the grinding boot of Mohammedanism AND YET PRESERVED THE FAITH INVIOLATE TO THIS DAY, the devastating attacks of “Christian” America on behalf of Mohammedan jihadis to the contrary notwithstanding.
“No nation has done so much for humanity then the USA..in such a short time. True we have had are problems..but we have preserved the world from destruction countless times.”
That, TIF, is demonstrably untrue. History’s march is longer that the few hundred years America has been around. I will grant you that no nation has ever done more, as a non Mohammedan nation, for the expansion of Islam at the expense of Christianity than America has the past 30 years or so.
I would add that whether the worship in the Latin Church was in Latin rather than the vernaculars has nothing to do with the Christian values Medieval Europe was built upon.
“I would add that whether the worship in the Latin Church was in Latin rather than the vernaculars has nothing to do with the Christian values Medieval Europe was built upon.”
Not at all. It's just that vanity blog postings clutter this forum, esp. ones that start off extolling the virtues of World Nut Daily. Stimulus to ban religious worship Yeah, sure. Obama is the antichrist, and all that. Boy cries wolf.
Try the bloggers forum. You'll like it.
There’s countless posts... let alone this one on the FR religious forum. don’t check them out then. I think you should go back to listening to Air America...your a seminar freeper...no conservative would ever state to limit speech and slam WND... a lot of us out here no your a commie...Good news on that stiulus bill...right..lol..Never said your hero Obama is the anti christ on the -RELIGIOUS FORUM ON FR- LOL!
My friend...Judean/Christian Values never governed a nation as the have America
You are a leftist. WND is right about this. You hang quietly below the radar.
People should just read the bill (yes it’s long) on their own.
Don’t someone else filter to to you what’s in it.
There are those here who would most heartily agree with that and thank-God for it...though not for the reasons you doubtless believe.
Orthodox Christians would argue that "Judeo/Christian Values" of the highest order formed the basis of every element of the governing of the Eastern Roman Empire for at least 1000 years. Copts would argue that those same values formed the basis of the government and society of Ethiopia for substantially longer than that. There are other examples, TIF.
Now, if what you mean to say is that a particular subset of Calvinist values never governed a nation as those values have America, I think we could find a consensus to stand behind that one.
Oh, come now. No one is limiting anyone's speech, unless having distinct, separate forums for appropriate content on FR is a form of limiting speech. The blogger forum was created for content such as yours.
As for World Nut Daily, it tends to the sensationalist end of the spectrum at times.
And I don't need to defend my conservative credentials with your sort.
a lot of us out here no your a commie...Good news on that stiulus bill...right..lol..Never said your hero Obama is the anti christ on the -RELIGIOUS FORUM ON FR- LOL!
This response is typical of the radical fringe of conservatism.
WND is no more reliable — and probably less so — than the liberal MSM. Not saying they aren’t right on a rare occasion.
I post on this particular forum (Religion) because that is the topic majority of what we blog on. I like the feed back positive and negative. It helps me to be rooted in my Faith In Jesus Christ and to test what I believe. I just suggest next time you see a post of ours..just walk on by..
Thanks and God Bless!