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To: hellbender

energy does not equal entropy. energy does not provide information. that’s something you learn in the first year of elementary science


31 posted on 02/14/2009 12:28:31 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I didn’t equate energy with entropy. I said that the 2nd law applies only to closed systems, which the earth is not. Closed means no imported energy or matter. Entropy was defined in thermodynamics well before concepts relating it to information were introduced.


37 posted on 02/14/2009 12:40:50 PM PST by hellbender
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; hellbender
energy does not equal entropy. energy does not provide information. that’s something you learn in the first year of elementary science

I read what hellbender wrote, and your response has no relationship to it.

Your first sentence was bizarre. Your second sentence is flat-out wrong: energy does provide information. Ever seen that big yellow ball in the sky? We know what it looks like. How do we know what it looks like? Because of information sent in the form of energy like photons and magnetic field strength, to name a few.

40 posted on 02/14/2009 12:48:50 PM PST by DallasMike
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