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To: Pyro7480; annalex; vladimir998

“That’s quite an indictment, and a possibly overreaching one.”

From me???????????????????????

P, Leo XIII had some of those odd Marian notions which have caused so much heartburn over the past 100 years, especially that Co-Redemptrix idea. His concept of Panagia as a mediatrix of grace is particularly dangerous as it sets her up as a sort of gatekeeper between humanity and the grace of God which falls on the people like rain on the earth. His beliefs in this area are far outside the consensus patrum and, fankly, smack of a sort of extreme religious enthusiasm. Bottom line, P, Leo XIII is just one of those Popes that its best not to cite to when looking for a discussion with Orthodox Christians. The man doubtless had many admirable qualities but his Satis Cognitum for us trumps them.

Have +BXVI write an encyclical on the scriptures and its likely we’ll salute that with our own degree of enthusiasm! :)


22 posted on 02/16/2009 2:50:11 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Have +BXVI write an encyclical on the scriptures and its likely we’ll salute that with our own degree of enthusiasm!

Well, when Ignatius Press comes out with their collection on his reflections on St. Paul from his general audiences, that may be sort of a look into what the Holy Father thinks, not like there are already writings of his in that field.

23 posted on 02/16/2009 2:59:06 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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To: Kolokotronis
P, Leo XIII had some of those odd Marian notions which have caused so much heartburn over the past 100 years, especially that Co-Redemptrix idea. His concept of Panagia as a mediatrix of grace is particularly dangerous as it sets her up as a sort of gatekeeper between humanity and the grace of God which falls on the people like rain on the earth. His beliefs in this area are far outside the consensus patrum and, fankly, smack of a sort of extreme religious enthusiasm.

I'm not certain about the Co-Redemptrix concept, but on the Mediatrix concept and on his Marian devotion in general, Pope Leo XIII was influenced by St. Louis de Montfort, a French priest who lived in the late 17th and early 18th centuries (he beatified him). He sought to preach missions throughout France, but like many orthodox believers of this period of time, he was persecuted by many of the bishops of that time, and was restricted to preaching in Brittany and the Vendee. Interesting enough, those two regions in France were the only two to resist the violent secularization of the French Revolution, which took place seven decades after his death (though with limited success, since the Revolutionaries more or less committed genocide against the devout Catholics there). Go figure.

76 posted on 02/18/2009 9:24:28 PM PST by Pyro7480 (This Papist asks everyone to continue to pray the Rosary for our country!)
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