Skip to comments.Card. Mahony on the 'Tridentine' Mass (Catholic Caucus)
Posted on 03/02/2009 9:21:44 AM PST by Pyro7480
His Eminence Roger Card. Mahony of Los Angeles shares his view of the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite and, consequently, of the decision two Popes made to emancipate the older, pre-Conciliar form of Holy Mass.
The setting: On Friday, February 27, 2009, at 11:15 a.m. PST, ChurchWerks.com hosted an online chat session with Cardinal Mahony, live from the main Exhibit Hall at the Religious Education Congress in Anaheim, Calif.
Ann Scolari: What are your thoughts on the Trindentine mass?Could not make the transition? What are they, stupid? Have they been lied to?
CardinalMahony: Ann: The Tridentine Mass was meant for those who could not make the transition from Latin to English [or other languages] after the Council. But there is no participation by the people, and I dont believe that instills the spirit of Christ among us.
No participation by the people? What are they doing there?
Doesnt instill the spirit of Christ? What is going on there, Your Eminence?
Are Eastern Catholics stupid or not participating or not instilling the Spirit of Christ if they attend the Divine Liturgy in their sacral liturgical language and their mode of participation, shut out by a screen and forced to listen?
WDTPRSers, I put it you now:
Imagine that a bishop, any bishop, might say things about a highly charged topic during a media interview.
Imagine that during Q&A he grossly mischaracterizes something dear and sacred to a group of people, something that touches on their very identity.
Imagine that this imaginary bishop states, in the media, things which are clearly false, even contrary to the teachings of the Church in the Vatican Council and subsequent legislation of Popes.
This imaginary bishop really believes his position to be true, but his statements however sincerely believed are deeply offensive to a interested group who have in the past been marginalized and mistreated.
Even people who do not prefer to attend Holy Mass in the older form should be offended by what Card. Mahony said to the world in this online chat.
He slapped our ancestors, Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI, and everyone who loves our Churchs Holy Mass and Divine Liturgy in all its beautiful, meaningful, sacred and legitimate forms.
P. Introibo ad altare Dei
S. Ad Deum qui laetificat juventutem meam.
Someone please be offended for me. If I take time to be offended every time Cdl. Mahony says something rude, crazy, or heretical, I'll never get Vlad toilet trained.
Let us pray;
Father, please grant your servant Roger Mahoney the grace of repentance and conversion, that he may truly and faithfully fulfill the office of Cardinal Archbishop, which has been entrusted to him.
We ask this through Christ, Our Lord who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit, one God Forever.
Why do these CINO’s have their arms outstretched? Are they doing some holy wave?
It’s the Jack Kirby posture. ZAAARK!!! Bless rays shoot from their extended arms, spoiling the evil intentions of Galactus! Yay, the Earth is saved once again by these brave super heroes!!
Thank you, great job!
This has been going on, in every diocese, for the last 40 odd years. If you buy this line, get in line for 0bama’s Kool-Aid.
The liberal movement in the Catholic Church has used Saul Alinsky’s textbook for years. Politics of personal destruction, mischaracterizing issues, incrementalization; it’s all there. Toda, We even have pro-murder “Catholics” advocating murderers to be accepted in the Church’s name.
Sodom and Gomorrah were not this wicked!
They are supposedly extending their hands in prayer (assisting whoever might be pronouncing the prayer). It was done frequently in the Charismatic Renewal. They are "helping," so to speak. I don't know how appropriate or licit it might be. Some speakers (priests or otherwise) invite the congregation to add their prayers in this manner.
Kneeling, folding their hands and bowing their heads like Sister Mary Attila said do isn’t good enough for them?
That's so ... so ... so
She'd feel right at home at our parish. It was S.R.O. for Ash Wednesday (I've never seen the place so crowded, even at Easter or Christmas) and we were all kneeling at the Consecration on the cold stone floor of the narthex . . . .
I agree. I always thought it was like "playing priest."
They are extending their hands in a blessing of some sort, which I do not believe they are supposed to be doing, but which occurs at pretty much every parish.