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Christianity Under Fire: Why Fewer People Identify With The Faith
crosswalk.com ^ | March 9, 2009 | Tony Beam

Posted on 03/09/2009 9:39:53 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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1 posted on 03/09/2009 9:39:53 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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There will always be far fewer on the narrow road than there are on the wide road.


2 posted on 03/09/2009 9:42:17 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Big government replaces religion and the family as the central, stablizing fixture in society.

Let’s not follow the way of western Europe.


3 posted on 03/09/2009 9:43:33 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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It’s because Christianity requires you to govern yourself. Atheism allows you to run hog wild and do whatever floats your boat. So whichj do you think a bunch of fat, lazy, decadent American slobs are going to choose?


4 posted on 03/09/2009 9:45:52 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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there are now approximately 2.8 million people who identify themselves with some sort of “new religious movement,” including “Wiccan, pagan, or Spiritualist.”

some have been chosen by God to members of the elect and to heed the Gospel call and others have not.

5 posted on 03/09/2009 9:46:40 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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It only takes a shift of a few percent to wreak havoc in a society, or conversely to stabilize and return it to relative health.

We lose the political wars because we first lost the spiritual ones. Win the spiritual war and the politics will follow. In fact, win the spiritual and the politics become ever so much less important.


7 posted on 03/09/2009 9:52:31 AM PDT by marron
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Good analysis. Add to (1) however, that education is more and more in the hands of practical as well as theoretical atheists.


8 posted on 03/09/2009 9:54:52 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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All have been called....but just a few answer.


9 posted on 03/09/2009 9:58:28 AM PDT by mom4melody
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“The negative portrayal of Christianity in the culture by the media”

This is by far the biggest reason for the decline in religion. All studies show that the more likely someone is to be influenced by the media, the less likely they are to believe in spirituality, religion and traditional morality. The self-indulgent lifestyle celebrated by the media is not compatible with the values of traditional religion.


10 posted on 03/09/2009 9:59:06 AM PDT by detective
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The Word of God, the Rock of Ages hasn’t changed with the times, but corrupt mankind sure has, only to become more and more rotten to the core with sin.


11 posted on 03/09/2009 10:04:14 AM PDT by RedCobra
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12 posted on 03/09/2009 10:04:30 AM PDT by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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Somewhere along the way in the future I predict that many who have gone the route of non-monotheistic faith will have created such a void in their lives they’ll look for something to give them a sense of order (even if it’s Satanic), like islam.


13 posted on 03/09/2009 10:06:29 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Christian and armed.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I don’t think that atheists generally run wild, because this world is all that they have. Having accepted, in theory, the idea of oblivion, they choose instead the “gods”, small goods that allow them to get through from day today: their careers, the accumulation of money, Instead of religious rituals, they have routines, which give them a sense of security. Instead of faith, they have the “truths” of modern psychology, which rescues them from depression and allows them merely to be unhappy in a world that is, untilmately, meaningless. Life as pain management.


14 posted on 03/09/2009 10:06:49 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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Win the spiritual war and the politics will follow. In fact, win the spiritual and the politics become ever so much less important.

This is a reminder for me as a Christian debating politics. With so much deceit and propaganda, it's a challenge to fight the spiritual battle over the political battle.

15 posted on 03/09/2009 10:07:08 AM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (Buying carbon credits will not get me into Heaven. I am second - http://iamsecond.com/#/home/)
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Yes, which is why Islam has made such inroads among the black prison population.


16 posted on 03/09/2009 10:09:05 AM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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I think that there are other reasons not addressed by the author.

1. Organizations used to respect Wednesday night as church night and Sunday morning as a time for church. Now they don’t.
2. Kid’s sports run 24/7 now. Tournaments and games during Sunday morning, Wednesday evening, etc.
3. TV dominates a too much of our life. In some sense, TV events have turned most weekends into holidays. Just ask the the advertising execs for cable channels.
4. If you are too busy to go to church, you are too busy. Period. No exceptions.

I don’t know the answer to these. Chruches can offer a great deal in terms of sports leagues that can help bring more people into the church.

I will say that most of the mainline churches that I have attended had become feminized and were a bit uncomfortable for guys and the attendance reflected that. My current church is male friendly. We hunt, we shoot, we fish, we go duck hunting, and we hold competitive barbecues frequently.

A breath of fresh air.


17 posted on 03/09/2009 10:14:42 AM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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Let’s see ... decades of MSM and liberals trashing the Christian faith and removing it from any public venue, and fewer people identify with it? How did that happen? </sarcasm>


18 posted on 03/09/2009 10:16:26 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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While I was raised Lutheran-Presbyterian, I’ve been an atheist for over a decade.

Why? Because I finished the fourth grade. Taken literally, Christianity is a collection of preposterous stories and hocus pocus. Ethically, Christianity teaches effeminate, sacrificial self-loathing— I’d rather have a beer with Christopher Hitchens than Andrew Sullivan.


19 posted on 03/09/2009 10:16:30 AM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I don't think that is it. There are, and have been plenty of "pagans" and atheists over time who have conducted themselves at an acceptable level of personal conduct.

I believe that part of the deterioration of the Christian, particularly Protestant Christian movement over time is the increase in the average education level of the congregations. Simply declaring "absolute truth" ain't as easy a sell as it used to be to the great unwashed masses who couldn't even begin to question authority with any level of self-confidence and with an entire repression apparatus ranging from war, to physical torture, to shunning, available to it.

Many pastors are not inclined, either by natural intellect nor by training, to lead anything, let alone the spiritual lives of others. The whole "pastor" and "flock" metaphor breaks down badly when many consider the pastor to be a lightly credentialed idiot who couldn't defend the faith against even the least profound of the classical inconvenient questions that give rise to doubt. Many divinity schools are little better than diploma mills for the talentless.

The Catholic Church escapes this somewhat with a more rigorous training program and an overall less educated following, but undermine that with lax recruitment of priests and an unconscionable lack of turning over sexual offenders to the civil authority.

It is small wonder that institutions that cannot put forth first rate personnel as "leaders" cannot also recruit or retain "followers."
20 posted on 03/09/2009 10:17:55 AM PDT by Goldsborough (Non Sibi)
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