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That's it! Steele Must Go
CMR ^ | March 12, 2009 | matthew archbold

Posted on 03/12/2009 10:21:24 AM PDT by NYer

Michael Steele is not pro-life. And he must be replaced as the Chairman of the GOP as quickly as possible.

Steele just did an interview with GQ which is quoted in The Politico.

The key part of the conversation is this. It's shocking and I trust you'll agree that Michael Steele's days as GOP Chairman are numbered:

Steele: The choice issue cuts two ways. You can choose life, or you can choose abortion. You know, my mother chose life. So, you know, I think the power of the argument of choice boils down to stating a case for one or the other.

GQ: Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?

Steele: Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice.

GQ: You do?

Steele: Yeah. Absolutely.
Now, you can rant and rave how poor Michael has been taken out of context once again and how the media has manipulated him again. I don't want to hear it anymore. I don't want a GOP Chairman who makes headlines weekly with his flubs.

And if he meant what he said then I want him out as well.

This is not the first time Steele has referred to his pro-choice credentials. CMR raised this issue months ago and we were told by many that we didn't understand, it was a nuanced position, the media took him out of context and even that Steele was a good Catholic.

Remember this little conversation with Tim Russert on Meet The Press when Steele was running for Senate.
MR. RUSSERT: ...Mr. Steele, if you’re United States Senator, would you vote for a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion?

LT. GOV. STEELE: I don’t — vote for a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion? I think we’d have to have that get to the Supreme Court, wouldn’t we? I haven’t seen that bill proposed. I don’t think...

MR. RUSSERT: That’s been introduced in the Senate.

LT. GOV. STEELE: I don’t think anyone’s going to propose that this day.

MR. RUSSERT: So you wouldn’t do that?

LT. GOV. STEELE: No.

MR. RUSSERT: Would, would you encourage — would you hope the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe vs. Wade?

LT. GOV. STEELE: I think that that’s a matter that’s going to rightly belong to the courts to decide ultimately whether or not that, that issue should be addressed. The, the Court has taken a position, which I agree, stare decisis, which means that the law is as it is and, and so this is a matter that’s ultimately going to be adjudicated at the states. We’re seeing that. The states are beginning to decide for themselves on, on this and a host of other issues. And the Supreme Court would ultimately decide that.

MR. RUSSERT: But you hope that the Court keeps Roe v. Wade in place?

LT. GOV. STEELE: I think the Court will evaluate the law as society progresses, as the Court is supposed to do.

MR. RUSSERT: But what’s your position? Do you want them to sustain it or overturn it?

LT. GOV. STEELE: Well, I think, I think, I think Roe vs. Wade, Roe vs. Wade is a, is a matter that should’ve been left to the states to decide, ultimately. But it, it is where it is today, and the courts will ultimately decide whether or not this, this gets addressed by the states, goes back to the states in some form or they overturn it outright.

MR. RUSSERT: Is is your desire to keep it in place?

LT. GOV. STEELE: My desire is that we follow what stare decisis is at this point, yes.
I'm done. Michael Steele cannot lead the Republican Party. I don't want a leader who attacks conservative leaders. I don't want a leader who smiles and agrees when Republicans are called Nazis. I don't want a leader who waffles on abortion every time he's asked about it. That's not good enough. If this party wants the support of pro-lifers then Michael Steele must go.

UPDATE: Steele clarifies his statment. Ed Morrissey of HotAir has it but adds he still doesn't know what Steele believes. "The two statements cannot be reconciled with each other. They are mutually exclusive. And Steele has offered both as his views in two successive days." More at Hot Air.

UpdateII: Fallout is already occuring from some heavy hitters among social conservatives. Family Research Council President Tony Perkins released a statement on this issue:
"I read the article last night so I am familiar not only with his comments about the life issue but also about theefforts to redefine marriage and 'mucking' up the constitution. I expressed my concerns to the chairman earlier this week about previous statements that were very similar in nature. He assured me as chairman his views didnot matter and that he would be upholding and promoting theParty platform, which is very clear on these issues. It is very difficult to reconcile the GQ interview with the chairman's pledge."


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; choice; republican; rino; rncchairman; steele
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1 posted on 03/12/2009 10:21:24 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

A leader must be consistent and precise in his responses.


2 posted on 03/12/2009 10:22:36 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

I am done with the GOP. It is a dying party.


3 posted on 03/12/2009 10:22:56 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: NYer

Michael Steele’s job is to raise money, build infrastructure. Instead he’s doing interviews coming off as retarded. And that’s retarded.


4 posted on 03/12/2009 10:23:27 AM PDT by exist
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To: NYer
That would be a great sign to carry to a 'pro-abort' rally- "Your Mother Chose Life"
5 posted on 03/12/2009 10:25:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: NYer

Michael Steele is just another worthless RINO! He acts like
he is a star when is only a wanta be star.


6 posted on 03/12/2009 10:26:09 AM PDT by A. Morgan (Every night I pray that Rezko and Blago roll over on Obama!)
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To: txnativegop
GOP is the ZOMBIE party...

ZOM•BIE (noun) — The body of a dead person given the semblance of life, but mute and will-less, by a supernatural force, usually for some evil purpose

7 posted on 03/12/2009 10:28:25 AM PDT by Barney59 ("Amen")
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To: NYer

he is anti-gun and attacks Limbaugh before he ever gets ‘in the faces’ of the left.

what a failure.


8 posted on 03/12/2009 10:29:58 AM PDT by GeronL (....and I won't let it happen again!)
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To: Barney59

That’s why I’ve switched my party affiliation.


9 posted on 03/12/2009 10:30:25 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: txnativegop

10 posted on 03/12/2009 10:30:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: NYer

He’s a mole, like Charlie Crist. Nobody can be this destructive by accident.

The Soviets set a goal to take both major political parties. They can go ahead and hang the “Mission Accomplished” banner on that one.


11 posted on 03/12/2009 10:31:44 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: exist

Perhaps it’s above his pay grade?


12 posted on 03/12/2009 10:32:47 AM PDT by uncommonsense
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To: EternalVigilance

Doesn’t seem very well organized to me.


13 posted on 03/12/2009 10:33:06 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: NYer

“I think the Court will evaluate the law as society progresses, as the Court is supposed to do.”

Brilliant. I get the impression this guy might not be the sharpest tool in the shed.

Freegards


14 posted on 03/12/2009 10:34:27 AM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: NYer

He has seared his conscience with a hot iron where it came to Rush Limbaugh and now he will become even more and more unhinged into the liberal camp because he can’t or won’t admit honestly he is a liberal RINO.

Steele must go, no matter how it looks, he must go. Put a REAL black conservative in his place so the left can’t charge the GOP with racism.


15 posted on 03/12/2009 10:34:48 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: txnativegop

Well, that will certainly change when folks like yourself start to apply their talents to the problem, eh?

:-)


16 posted on 03/12/2009 10:34:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Pro-choice for states is pro-choice. This destroys America...it's all Pluribus and no more Unum)
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To: uncommonsense
Glenn Beck would make a better RNC Chair. Oh wait. Nevermind.
17 posted on 03/12/2009 10:37:18 AM PDT by exist
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To: NYer
If only Liberals spent as much time destroying the Dems as Conservatives do with Republicans. This Achilles Heel is poked hard and often by the Dems these days to great success.
18 posted on 03/12/2009 10:38:36 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: EternalVigilance

I am working on that as we speak. 8D


19 posted on 03/12/2009 10:40:04 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: NYer; txnativegop; exist; Mr. K; A. Morgan; Barney59; GeronL; EternalVigilance; ...

I read the GQ interview. He gives his personal opinion and then makes clear that Roe vs. Wade was wrongly decided and should be kicked back to the individual states. That’s about my opinion as well.

What I don’t like is that his entire line of strategic reasoning was that whites are going to be a minority in this country in a few decades so let’s all try and be hip and kewl to bring in the blacks and hispanics.

He decides to blow off the RNC Chairman’s traditional grunt work of fundraising and building up the farm team (recruiting and supporting GOP candidates for congressional and lesser office) in favor of becoming a one-man media showhorse and doing all the talk shows. If he didn’t cater so shamelessly to his interviewers as though he were still running for office. If he didn’t water down the conservative message to order. If he would confront these liberal talking heads and explain why conservatism is good for all americans, I wouldn’t object.

He hasn’t even made his appointments yet. That’s why I’ve got a problem with him.

And yes, I’m well aware that the MSM is gleefully doing everything it can to stoke this fire.


20 posted on 03/12/2009 10:40:15 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: NYer
From the Russert Interview question on Roe V Wade:

Steele: I think the Court will evaluate the law as society progresses, as the Court is supposed to do.

So his position on Roe V Wade (and I guess on all issues when all is said and done) is that our unelected overlords on the Supreme Court will guage societal sentiment at the moment and decide what the law should be and declare it to be so. And that over time, they may choose unilaterally to change that to fit the progress of society. Wow. If he beleived that, why did he even want to be a Senator?

21 posted on 03/12/2009 10:40:48 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: NYer

All of those who touted Steele and praised him to the rooftops only a month or two ago were warned about this.


22 posted on 03/12/2009 10:42:45 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: NYer

Ken Blackwell should have been the choice.


23 posted on 03/12/2009 10:43:29 AM PDT by Polyxene (America held hostage for the next 4 years by a RAT thug from Chicago - www.obamaclock.org)
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To: NYer

The COURTS must re-evaluate the law as society PROGRESSES? A REAL conservative there! LOL. The GOP just wanted a black face - they were trying to out-black Obama! What a loser.


24 posted on 03/12/2009 10:44:02 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: sinanju

Your comment about Steele not making his appointments yet, troubles me. His lack of appointments, is it due to a lack of qualified people? or is he showing signs of an Obama-like personality and trying to be the center of attention?

If it is the former, qualified people need to be found. If it is the latter, then Steele needs to be removed from his position.

On the abortion issue, I personally believe that it will best be solved as a 10th Amendment issue.


25 posted on 03/12/2009 10:44:26 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: txnativegop

I left the GOP a while ago. Can’t believe I actually thought Steele would change things for the better. For me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.


26 posted on 03/12/2009 10:44:43 AM PDT by rintense (Go Israel!)
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To: txnativegop

I am done with the GOP. It is a dying party

I left after ‘read my lips’ George Bush set the conservative movement back 20 years.

I do occasionally align myself with conservative GOP officials but I am done with the country club republicans.


27 posted on 03/12/2009 10:44:43 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Le Chien Rouge; rintense

Now we need to find a way to build the Conservative movement into a massive political operation.


28 posted on 03/12/2009 10:46:40 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: NYer

The entire GOP’s days of existing are also numbered. Conservatism, as a political option, is also numbered, unless a serious and successful effort in creating a “Conservative Party” is actually done asap that a MAJORITY OF CONSERVATIVES will really support as just one political entity. Creating a finite number of conservative parties at the same time instead will also help to destroy any serious future for conservatism in this country.


29 posted on 03/12/2009 10:47:08 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: txnativegop
We well survive Steele.
I had high hopes for him, but the Party Chairman does not have that much to do with our success, as a Party.

In most elections, a very small number of people consider abortion to be the most important issue, or even one of the top 3 most important issues.

As long as we make sure that we elect prolife Republicans, in the Primary, who the heck cares what the functionaries and Party officials think?

In order to win the prolife battle, we will have to have the votes and the help of people who do not give a rip about the abortion issue. This is, unfortunately, a fact.

30 posted on 03/12/2009 10:47:46 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

see my post #25


31 posted on 03/12/2009 10:49:31 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: sinanju

I have to agree.

The word incompetence comes to mind. petty is in there somewhere and the acronym RINO is blazing across the sky in my thoughts


32 posted on 03/12/2009 10:50:29 AM PDT by GeronL (....and I won't let it happen again!)
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To: txnativegop
Good points.

I would like Congress to pass a simple majority law, declaring abortion a State issue, under the 10th Amendment.

Congress could then, also, limit the appellate jurisdiction of the Courts, in that same law.

This would get us past the Constitutional Amendment requirements.

Of course, the radicals on the prolife side do not want this to be a “states rights” issue. They want to save all of the babies, which means, in practice NONE of the babies!

33 posted on 03/12/2009 10:53:07 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

If you want to limit judicial interference in law-making and laws passed, a law needs to passed that guts the Marbury v Madison ruling of 1802(or 1803).

Do that, and the courts are returned to the state which the Founders intended.


34 posted on 03/12/2009 10:55:56 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: txnativegop

A show horse not a work horse.

I’d take Ken Blackwell over him in a heartbeat.


35 posted on 03/12/2009 10:57:11 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

I’ve been burned once on a fresh face, is Blackwell really any different then Steele? Serious question.


36 posted on 03/12/2009 10:58:26 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: Kansas58

“I would like Congress to pass a simple majority law, declaring abortion a State issue, under the 10th Amendment.”

It would have to be a resolution, not a law, since The Federal government, all three branches, has no constitutional authority on the subject of abortion.


37 posted on 03/12/2009 10:59:15 AM PDT by devere
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To: NYer
Any very small amount of support I still had for Steele has now evaporated.

He needs to be aborted as RNC chair. Stat.

We desperately need a replacement party for the GOP.
38 posted on 03/12/2009 11:03:08 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every time Obama speaks, I buy more silver.)
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To: NYer
I don't want a leader who waffles on abortion every time he's asked about it.

He didn't waffle, he clearly stated that abortion is a woman's choice to make. Contrary to the Republican Platform.

We must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the 14th Amendment's protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

We oppose abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption services, and we commend Congressional Republicans for expanding assistance to adopting families and for removing racial barriers to adoption.

Michael clearly not being part of "We".

39 posted on 03/12/2009 11:03:47 AM PDT by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targeted…no guarantee…they’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: NYer

I am very disappointed with him.


40 posted on 03/12/2009 11:03:51 AM PDT by tioga
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To: txnativegop

Ken Blackwell has a track record of serious conservatism with the scars to prove it. He has been burned several times by the RINO establishment of his native Ohio.


41 posted on 03/12/2009 11:04:22 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

Would that be the Taft bunch?

I might be willing to give him a try, but having been burned once, I’m little shy about.


42 posted on 03/12/2009 11:06:21 AM PDT by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: exist

Never go full retard. Everyone knows that.


43 posted on 03/12/2009 11:12:22 AM PDT by teddyballgame
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To: exist

Oh, my! That was awkward! I took it as Glenn being sarcastic but ... wow! That’s not a cool thing to say in that situation.


44 posted on 03/12/2009 11:15:08 AM PDT by Sister_T (The Obama Administration = EPIC FAIL!)
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To: exist
Instead he’s doing interviews coming off as retarded. And that’s retarded.

Most retarded people, if you showed then a mother and told them the big belly was because there was a baby in there and asked them if a doctor should kill the baby, would say "NO!".

Steele is evil, not retarded.

45 posted on 03/12/2009 11:18:38 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: NYer
Geez, Russert practically had to hold a gun to his head to get him to give a clear answer to how he felt about Roe v Wade.

Talk about evasive.

Doesn't surprise me at all that he has now given a totally contradictory statement to someone else, concerning abortion. This guy is an empty suit.

46 posted on 03/12/2009 11:30:51 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: NYer
It takes courage and conviction to be pro life. And it will take more and more as time goes on. It also takes intellectual honesty.

Praytell, where are you going to find courage, conviction, and intellectual honesty in politics?

47 posted on 03/12/2009 12:01:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (To Let)
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To: Melinda
If only Liberals spent as much time destroying the Dems as Conservatives do with Republicans. This Achilles Heel is poked hard and often by the Dems these days to great success.

What the he!! does Republicans have to do with conservatism? If you are a fan of Steele after these inconsistencies then stay with the RINOs. RUSH said it best when he said that if you are a true conservative you don't have to sputter in expelling your views. They are inherit. This guy, like many, are stuck on trying to be & say what is PC. Get a core belief conservative in that position - NOW!

48 posted on 03/12/2009 12:14:53 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: NYer

Question: Why do you think so few nonwhite Americans support the Republican Party right now?

Steele: ‘Cause we have offered them nothing! And the impression we’ve created is that we don’t give a damn about them or we just outright don’t like them. And that’s not a healthy thing for a political party. I think the way we’ve talked about immigration, the way we’ve talked about some of the issues that are important to African-Americans, like affirmative action... I mean, you know, having an absolute holier-than-thou attitude about something that’s important to a particular community doesn’t engender confidence in your leadership by that community—or consideration of you for office or other things—because you’ve already given off the vibe that you don’t care. What I’m trying to do now is to say we do give a damn.

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That should have jumped out at me when I first read it. “We have offered them nothing” he first badmouths his own party up one side and down the other and then promises to give them stuff? Give a damn?

Incredible. There are so many ways he could have explained that the GOP had short-sightedly abandoned minorities to the democrats but that conservatism had much so more to offer. Instead he makes the GOP out to be just as bad as the libs have accused them of being. Then he nebulously promises to start giving a damn.

He really thinks he’s being hip, cool and persuasive. I’d have rather had Jesse Helms giving these interviews.


49 posted on 03/12/2009 12:24:37 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: marshmallow

This guy is selling himself, not the GOP.

Just like Clinton and Obama, WE have now put another fatherless boy in charge. When will we ever learn?


50 posted on 03/12/2009 12:27:03 PM PDT by sinanju
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