Hmmm, my BS detector is about to go off the scale!!! /sarc
Posted on 03/16/2009 8:13:05 PM PDT by BrotherSka
Christians and Muslims have been kept apart for over 1,300 years, because they were taught that irreconcilable differences exist between their religious beliefs. This has resulted in mutual distrust, persecution, and even wars. I was motivated to read the Qur’an by the events of September 11th, 2001.
I wanted to know the teachings in the Qur’an that could convince Muslims to be willing to sacrifice their lives, in order to kill persons who did not appear to be associated with Islam or their conflict.
My Christian tradition was the source of some anxiety, since I had been taught that “the Koran” was full of evil, and could cause the reader to be led astray. Even the name “Koran” sounded and appeared ominous. After convincing myself that my only motive for reading the book was to investigate its contents, I commenced reading with some trepidation.
I was surprised to find that the Qur’an seemed so familiar, and after reading several different translations, I began to wonder whether Muslims who followed the Qur’an, were part of the community of believers, otherwise called the elect of God.
The claim is admittedly shocking for some Christians, and had I heard of such an assertion by anyone before I read the Qur’an, I would have dismissed the claim and would have decided not to devote any effort investigating any evidence that the claimant might have provided. It is for this reason that I shall present what I understand the Qur’an teaches at this point in this article, in the hope that the reader will want to accompany me on this investigative journey.
What does the Qur’an Teach
The Qur’an appears to teach that Muslims must believe that Jesus:
- was born of the virgin Mary;
- taught the Gospel;
- performed many miracles, including raising the dead;
- was crucified;
- was raised by God; and
- is the Messiah.
The Qur’an also appears to teach that Muslims must:
- believe in one God who is identified as the only Creator, and the God of Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Elisha, David, and the Old Testament Prophets;
- repent and believe in order to receive God’s forgiveness by grace;
- develop and cultivate a personal relationship with the God of Abraham;
- believe the Bible, and copy and distribute it to all nations of the earth without compensation;
- receive guidance from the Holy Spirit;
- resist the temptations from Satan; and
- avoid the condemnation of hell.
I realize that many readers, including Muslims, will not readily believe that the Qur’an actually teaches all of this; however, if you will read further, then we can examine the evidence together, and you can decide for yourself what the Qur’an teaches. If we reach similar conclusions, then perhaps our investigations can lead to some reconciliation between these brothers who have been unnecessarily kept apart for far too long.
Brothers Kept Apart
Most Muslim teachers have never read the Bible, yet they continue to criticize their understanding of Christian tradition. Similarly, most Christian teachers have never read the Qur’an, yet they continue to criticize their understanding of Islamic tradition. Thus both leaders continue to mislead more than half of the world’s population, who are either Christian or Muslim, about what the other believes.
Since Christians believe that God’s revelation is contained in the Bible, and Muslims believe that God’s revelation is contained in the Qur’an, then a scientific comparative analysis of both books can determine whether a common author is likely.
Brothers Kept Apart is perhaps the first comparative analysis of the Bible and the Qur’an, which assumes that both of the books are entirely correct. The study provides compelling evidence to show that there is harmony between the principal teachings of the Bible and the Qur’an, without compromising any of the teachings, or damaging the integrity of any of these verses in either book. However, the study found disharmony between Christian and Islamic religious traditions. The book also exposes the barriers erected by Christian and Islamic religious traditions, which have kept Christian and Muslim brothers apart for the past 1,300 years.
Walter Phillips has studied the Bible and early civilizations for the past thirty years, and the Qur’an for the past seven. He has spent the past twenty years investigating evidence and designing solutions to problems. With four university degrees, several professional affiliations, and 30 years of research, Walter Phillips presents his findings in a remarkably conversational style.
“In my opinion, the most important lesson from studying history is: never be afraid to re-examine the evidence in order to learn or verify the truth. We should never be afraid to critically examine claims of truth, for truth should be able to withstand rigorous scrutiny.” Walter Phillips BSc, BEng, MASc, MURP, CEng, MIStructE, MIHT, MCSCE, MBAPE
www.BrothersKeptApart.com
as demonstrated by the harmony between the followers of both books......
utter load of excrement
Is there a part that compares the Quran telling followers to blow up buildings and crash airplanes into them to get their virgins? Cause I don’t remember that part in the Bible
“the first comparative analysis of the Bible and the Qur’an, which assumes that both of the books are entirely correct. “
(All together now)
AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ASSUME...
(Strother Martin as Percy Garris in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.)
Fact 1: Jesus was the only begotten Son of God. The pedophile-worshipping Muslim trash don’t believe that.
Fact 2: You’re a troll, who signed up today to post this crap.
Begone!
Muslims hate the doctrine of the Trinity, an essential Christian doctrine.
You sign up today and your first post is to tell us we need to make an alliance with not even moderate Muslims, but True Believers (hardcore extremists)?
TROLL ALERT
Yes and I did a search in all of my various versions of the Holy Bible and found nothing telling us to cut off the head of “infidels” or those who “resist” Jesus Christ, either.
Any text plagiarized by another will have some similarities but since Mo was illiterate he plagiarized by word of mouth. He added and changed where he needed to fit his agenda. If you lived somewhere and had what he wanted it was easy enough to come up with something like “strike down the unbelievers and take their spoils.’ How convenient. The logic behind the whole drinking camel piss thing escapes me, however.
sniff
I am sooo slow on the draw!
I should have been IB4TZ. Now I am IATZ :(
They examine their feces to check for lumps, it might
be their next prophet.
Here’s the truth about the difference between Islam and Christianity (and every other religion), written by a much wiser man than you:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”
- Winston Churchill
This idiot doesn’t understand the cultural background of Muhamet. He was a nomad traveling the Middle East where Judaism, Christianity, and paganism were prevalent. The nomads had constant contact with these religions, and their stories were passed on by oral tradition.
Muhamet simply compiled his recollections and interpretations of the oral traditions that he received into the Koran. He then claimed that the book came from God, because he believed HIS version of the religious genesis was correct. The Koran is nothing more than a bad interpretation of poor storytelling from Jewish and Christian scripture.
I understand what Muhamet was trying to do for the people of his heritage, but he was wrong, not inspired, and forced his doctrine on his people by force. He was a religious dictator and warmonger.
Muslims don’t believe that Christ is the Son of God, the most basic Christian principle.
It has been my experience that those who see simple answers to longstanding questions don’t truly understand those questions.
Hooyah! Yeah, my favorite part of the Bible is where the guy chops people’s heads off and marries a 9-year-old. Oh, wait...
Dilute something enough and you can find many similarities to other substances. The hydrogen bomb and water both contain hydrogen. Are they “brothers kept apart”?
Should be "Brother-OWNED".
Ozone?
Muslim leaders would make Rev. Ann one of their many female servants, whipping, beating and raping her if she dared to open her mouth.
Then Rev. Ann would really have a predicament!
Stupid troll! Be gone!
I see the poster has been banned already... LOL...
But, really posting something like this and trying to make it out to be true, is totally false and misleading and someone is trying to deceive people. That’s all that is going on here.
For one thing, Muslims are *absolutely adamant* against Jesus being the “Son of God”. They are also adamantly against the Doctrine of the Trinity (the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, as in being the Triune Godhead). Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the cross. They believe that Jesus was taken up to Heaven being alive, never having died at all, in the first place.
Muslims believe in the God of Abraham and Ishmael, and *not* the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They are *two different entities* — one being through Ishmael, while the other one is the true Creator God of the Universe, being the one who is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
This is all total garbage — what this author of the article is writing.
And whoever posted this is either totally misled himself, totally stupid or trying to mislead a bunch of other people... LOL...
I’m too slow! See post #19.
No different if someone decided to make up a religion today in 2009 and copy half of the Bible for his new religion. And then make up something else for the other half.
Maybe the new religion would be based on the belief that Al Gore is a divine prophet.
Complete and utter crap.
Let us suppose, for the sake of argument, that everything you listed is correct.
One irreconcilable difference remains.
Biblical Christians believe that Jesus Christ is in fact God, creator of the universe.
Islam does not teach this.
This does not mean that members of the two faiths cannot co exist in a peaceful way, but it does mean that we are not brothers in faith.
I believe you need to re-read the Quran.
I’ve read it several times, I suggest that you are unable to read in context.
Already gone. The Mods are very alert tonight.
It’s another Taqiyya Sunrise...
>> They examine their feces to check for lumps, it might
be their next prophet.
ROFLMAO!
We have a possible troll sighting in religion sector. Need confirmation
It is important to note that Mohammed was long dead when the Quran was written. Arabic didn’t even have an alphabet, so they borrowed the Syrio-Aramaic characters. Where Arabic didn’t have a word, they borrowed a word from Syrio-Aramaic.
And the Qu-ran was written to justify the Arab conquest, not to motivate it.
They’re all drinking “JOLT”?.....:))
Dear Brother Ska:
You should be praying to the Viking Kitties about now. The Prayer goes like this:
Oh Kitties: Zot me for I have sinned....
And then there is this wild flash bang thingy and you’re gone.
Go ahead try it.
The Bible does teach!
Muslims deny the last three items on the list. They do teach that he performed many miracles; I'm not sure if they would agree that He raise the dead. Once you deny the crucifixion and resurrection, nothing else matters anyway.
What nonsense. The two religions and worlds cannot come together as one. Obviously centuries of Christian persecution in Islamic countries is not enough evidence to you.
IIA Tears Down Muslim Students Association Argument
http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/03/iia-tears-down-muslim-student.html
He has been banned. Probably some Islamist playing games.
They are not different entities, the Muslims just chose the wrong brother.
Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand [will be] against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
You said — “They are not different entities, the Muslims just chose the wrong brother.”
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They must be different entities, because on the one hand, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob says that the Jews in Israel will be a nation before Him forever.
The other one (the one from Abraham and Ishmael) says that all the Jews will be killed (and instructs his followers to kill Jews).
Those are two different entities. The One is our Creator God, while the other one (of Islam) has the same characteristics as Satan. So, it appears that the “two entities” are “God” and “Satan” — which make perfect sense.
Don’t think I’ll do that. I prefer to expose the lies of Islam... :-)
Isaac was the father of the Jewish and gentile nations...
Ishmael was the father of the arabs and islam.
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