The Rapture [RAPTURE CAUCUS]

Lamb & Lion Ministries ^ | Dr. David Reagan

[aruanan]

Pay more attention next time before slandering the beliefs of others on a caucus thread.

Sorry, I didn't know that "caucus" meant "tell me only what I want to believe." The "slandering the beliefs of others" remarks in response are sounding like those of global warming alarmists with respect to anything that challenges what they dearly want to believe yet cannot demonstrate. The balkanization of Free Republic in this way is a most sad development.

[Religion Moderator]

If you want to create a thread to complain about the guidelines of the Religion Forum (posted on my profile page) or me personally, go ahead.

But, leave this thread.

[aruanan]

This is a caucus. If you do not believe in the Rapture, do not post on this thread. Also, do not use potty language on the Religion Forum

Okay. Balkanization alert duly noted.

Actually, though, I do believe in the "Rapture" as set out by Paul his letters to the Thessalonians and Corinthians, just not a pre-trib rapture, unmentioned by him.

[conservativegramma]

Cau-cus noun -

2. any group or meeting organized to further a special interest or cause. (See Random House Dictionary c2009)

[marbren]

I understand you reasoning for removing the posts. Seems you will be very busy with this Caucus.

[marbren]

Can you put back Star Travelers excellent historical summation, post 46 I believe,and not my comments?

[Religion Moderator]

If Star Traveler needs to see the post again, I can send it by Freepmail at his/her request.

Bottom line, that post contrasted many beliefs which is not tolerable in a caucus. The caucus must only speak to what the caucus believes not what non-caucus members believe, otherwise the thread must be opened so that they can speak for themselves.

[raynearhood]

You are a member of this RAPTURE CAUCUS if you are in support of the Biblical Doctrine of the Rapture, as a separate event from the Second Coming of Jesus Christ (which is to establish the Kingdom on earth).

Seriously, you may want to change the caucus tag to [Dispensational Caucus] or something similar.

I'm all for the thread labels on FreeRepublic, they serve their purpose well when used properly. This, I think, is an improper use.

Every eschatology believes that the Rapture will happen. Just using [RAPTURE CAUCUS] invites all eschatologies' ideas on the Rapture. Later defining the Caucus with - "the Biblical Doctrine of the Rapture, as a separate event from the Second Coming of Jesus Christ (which is to establish the Kingdom on earth)" is now calling all other eschatologies unbiblical and/or heretical which is just begging for the the other eschatologies to jump in and defend.

I suggest [DISPENATIONAL CAUCUS] and define it as a thread for discussing the end times and rapture according to the dispensational eschatology.

You know my position on eschatology, I'm just trying to help you out here.

[Iscool]

Dr. David Jeremiah

He makes some good points...One is that the vast majority of the church has already encountered Heaven...There is not only no scriptural evidence but it doesn't make any sense either that the small group of Christians still here at the Rapture would have to go thru the Tribulation...

[TaraP]

Wonderful!
Look forward to conversing with other’s on this Glorious Event...

[Religion Moderator]

When the beliefs of non-caucus-members are mentioned in a caucus thread, they have an interest in speaking for themselves. If the comparison remains, the thread must be opened.

Limit this discussion to the "Rapture" belief.

Also, do not torture the meaning of the word "rapture" to get the thread opened.

For example, the word "Catholic" in the tag "Catholic Caucus" refers to all members of the Catholic Church as is lead by Pope Benedict. The word "catholic" also has a common meaning. Posters cannot use that common meaning to break the caucus.

[conservativegramma]

I have a question. There are many beliefs under the generic title ‘Rapture’. There is pre-trib Rapture, mid-trib Rapture, post-Trib Rapture, etc.

Which view are we allowed to discuss in this caucus? All of the differing viewpoints towards the term ‘rapture’ or one specific belief regarding the rapture, such as pre-tribulation rapture?

Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

[Jo Nuvark]

Good morning ST...

Just logged on and find myself extremely impressed with
this format and its civility. As always the content is well
thought out and documented.

FATHER GOD... I ask that You would be sovereign over
this caucus, that Your Spirit of Truth and Love would
flood over the posters as we meditate on Your Word.
I pray that nothing that is not of Your Spirit will enter.
I pray Your protection over Star Traveler and our
moderators as they stand in the gap with discernment.

You are the light an the Truth. Be light for us as we
call upon You to flood the dark places... that we may
know YOU ARE GOD!

In JESUS name!

[Quix]

Still don’t have time at the moment to wade into this thread.

You may be aware that I was a bit wary that

PRE-TRIB, MID-TRIB COULD BE DISCUSSED functionally in a caucus with the other perspectives.

Seems like the thread is going well though causing you plenty of busy-ness.

I’m wondering if a chart/table format listing the features of PRE-TRIB, MID-TRIB

WOULD BE WITHIN THE CAUCUS BOUNDARIES?

THANKS TONS FOR ALL YOU DO FOR GOD, THE KINGDOM, FR AND US.

Off to brunch.

[Star Traveler]

It may be good to have another and separate thread, apart and separate from this Rapture thread. But, I do think that there are many who do enjoy talking about the Rapture and looking forward to it, and especially so in our present day, on this thread.

I would have to think about another separate thread on another issue, though. I’m not sure about that right now. And today, I’m probably going to be out and about most of the time, anyway. But, I’ll give it some thought about another and different thread.

[Religion Moderator]

The term "Rapture" as I am moderating this thread is pre-trib + mid-trib or pre-wrath. That comes from the definition (Merrian-Webster): "the final assumption of Christians into heaven during the end-time according to Christian theology."

If Star Traveler has another meaning for the term, then he should let me know. Likewise, if he wishes to use a different term such as "Pretrib/Midtrib Caucus" or "Prewrath Caucus."

If he wishes to include Christians being taken up after the end times, then might change it to "Pre/Mid/Posttrib Caucus." Likewise for "dispensationalism" "millenarianism" and so forth.

[Star Traveler]

Hello Religion Moderator, and good morning...

You were saying — The term “Rapture” as I am moderating this thread is pre-trib + mid-trib or pre-wrath. That comes from the definition (Merrian-Webster): “the final assumption of Christians into heaven during the end-time according to Christian theology.

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Yes, I believe that fits pretty well what I was talking about. I appreciate your attention to this detail on the matter. It does take a bit of getting used to, in order to participate in the right way here, but it’s something that is enjoyable for those who do believe in the Rapture. Thanks...

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And then you said — If Star Traveler has another meaning for the term, then he should let me know. Likewise, if he wishes to use a different term such as “Pretrib/Midtrib Caucus” or “Prewrath Caucus.”

If he wishes to include Christians being taken up after the end times, then might change it to “Pre/Mid/Posttrib Caucus.” Likewise for “dispensationalism” “millenarianism” and so forth.

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No different meaning for the term. Thank you...

And for a discussion on other matters, that can be taken up on another thread. There’s room for discussion elsewhere on other issues.

I trust this won’t be a headache for anyone... :-)

[Religion Moderator]

To avoid problems, on your future “Rapture Caucus” threads, you should include a definition of the term in your comment to the article (boldfaced would be nice) so that posters can easily determine whether or not they are a member.