Old Calvinism is Now the New Calvinism

American Vision ^ | March 23, 2009 | Gary DeMar

[Blogger]

You’re welcome.

And insofar what John Calvin said was consistent with Scripture, I agree with him. Where he strayed from Scripture, I disagree.

[fatboy]

I happen to agree with you Amos. I think a general education in Systematic Theology by Calvinist, Arminian as well as Covenant and Dispensational writers is useful but most believers are not interested.

[fatboy]

I agree with you Sir. Just so you know, I’m not a strict Calvinist. (I’m a 4.4 pointer).

[Blogger]

I am a 5 pointer. But I am not part of the same group Topcat is part of.

[HarleyD]

The only “ism” I care about is biblicism. ...If I find it in Scripture, I believe it.

Well, if you find "biblicism" in scripture let me know. ;O)

[Ping-Pong]

And insofar what John Calvin said was consistent with Scripture, I agree with him. Where he strayed from Scripture, I disagree.

That's a terrific idea for everyone and everything! I'll join that church.

[HarleyD]

The greatest Reformations always have occurred in our bleakest hours. It isn’t surprising that Calvinism would rise up once again at such a time as this with it’s focus on God’s sovereign will.

[topcat54]

The one that topcat has not been given the right to define.

Let me guess. "No creed but Christ"-type biblicism.

Topcat is a known antagonist,

As opposed to roaming gnomes with comments like:

The only “ism” I care about is biblicism. Beyond that, any of man’s constructs is dung.

[Blogger]

Let me guess.
Nope. Not interested.

[will of the people]

CHOOSE CALVINISM!

Will Wallace
-To the famous “Wizard of Oz” tune- “If I only had a will!”

[topcat54]

The greatest Reformations always have occurred in our bleakest hours. It isn’t surprising that Calvinism would rise up once again at such a time as this with it’s focus on God’s sovereign will.

There is also a great opportunity to teach full-orbed Calvinism to combat the inane Left Behind nonsense that is common in confession-less Christianity.

[topcat54]

Nope. Not interested.

Well, it was good to have you here for a time. Cheerio, mate.

[tumblindice]

We’re the Lord’s elected few,
let all the rest be damned.
There’s room enough in Hell for you,
We don’t want Heaven crammed.

[topcat54]

BTW, if y'all have a chance, please listen to John MacArthur's recent series on the Grace to You radio broadcast on the doctrines of grace (aka the 5 Points of Calvinism). Excellent stuff. Too bad MacArthur is not more consistent in his Calvinism, limiting it to just 5 points as he does.

[Blogger]

Again, the objection is to you trying to define what I mean and then swiping at whatever straw man you construct. I have been in that situation on these threads and am not interested in having a known antagonist do it again.

I said what I meant by biblicism. In spite of this, you still want the control to define what I mean. I’m simply not letting you do it.

[topcat54]

Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.

[HarleyD]

We’re all God’s children,
let us all rejoice.
He really love us everyone
Let’s help Him make His choice.

[topcat54]

Again, the objection is to you trying to define what I mean and then swiping at whatever straw man you construct. I have been in that situation on these threads and am not interested in having a known antagonist do it again.

How can anyone object to what you have not defined? It's your choice, don't blame us.

BTW, Calvinism is what is found in Scripture, doncha know?

[Blogger]

I agree, Calvinism, carefully and explicitly defined, is found in Scripture. Not everything John Calvin taught is.

[lbama]

Is this the same John Calvin that murdered Michael Servetus?

Why would anyone follow a murderer?