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The Second Coming Happened Already

Posted on 03/25/2009 1:14:14 AM PDT by OPREV

Nineteen hundred and seventy five years ago, This is the discussion that went on between Jesus and his disciples -

Mat 24:3 As Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him in private. "Tell us when all this will be," they asked, "and what will happen to show that it is the time for your coming and the end of the age."

Mat 24:4 Jesus answered, ....

Mat 24:30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky; and all the peoples of the land will weep as they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 The great trumpet will sound, and he will send out his angels to the four corners of the earth, and they will gather his chosen people from one end of the world to the other.

And the most important part ----

Mat 24:34 Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died.

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Jesus told the disciples he would come back and take them to heaven in their lifetime. If he didn't come back, then, he lied.

Another translation of verse 34

Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till ALL these things be accomplished.

Jesus told the disciples that their generation would not pass away, until he came back and took them to heaven.

Jesus came back, in the 1st century, like he said he would, and, his angels gathered the elect and they went back to heaven. Which means, we live in the millenium.

Rev 20:4 ...and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, ... and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

The Greek word used for the "thousand years" is chilioi. Chilioi is a plural word, meaning, 2000, or more. Thus, the millenium would be 2000 or more years.

And we would be at this point in history -

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Rev 20:8 and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Rev 20:9 And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them.

And the next thing we would see is, the Bride coming out of Heaven

Rev 21:9 And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls, who were laden with the seven last plagues; and he spake with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the wife of the Lamb.

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,

Jesus came back & the early church left, with him. The rapture is past, the beast & false prophet also, the two witnesses are long gone, as are the 144,000. We live at the very end of history, when Satan is let loose, the armies from the North attack God's people, fire from the sky comes down and kills them, and there is a new heaven and new earth. And the final act is the Bride coming out of heaven. And then it's over. :)

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To: marbren

One last thing about dufflepuds: The reason I say you don’t seem to be is that there are some derogatory aspects of dufflepuds which didn’t arise in the first article I got when I googled the word, but which I did mean when I used the word:

The dufflepuds were so inclined to congratulatory agreement that they did remarkably foolish things and were initially conspiratorial and belligerent. They were, however, quite transformed by the innocent love of Lucy and Aslan.


141 posted on 03/26/2009 6:04:52 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
I did read Screwtape Letters
142 posted on 03/26/2009 6:07:39 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Ping-Pong

Cool, God knew about keyboards!


143 posted on 03/26/2009 6:10:22 AM PDT by marbren
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To: dangus
I don't mind being called a dufflepud.
144 posted on 03/26/2009 6:13:40 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Quix
Xanex.

Learn it, live it, love it.

145 posted on 03/26/2009 6:15:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: marbren
I don't mind being called a dufflepud.

Dufflepuds get all the chicks.

146 posted on 03/26/2009 6:16:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: OPREV; airborne; American in Israel; auggy; bearsgirl90; BigBadWolf; Blogger; bradthebuilder; ...
CONFABULATING
MANGLING
DISTORTING
TWISTING
!!!!SCRIPTURE!!!!
THOROUGHLY
OUT OF WHACK,
OUT OF ITS ORIGINAL MEANING,
OUT OF ITS ORIGINAL PURPOSE,
OUT OF ALL SENSIBLE REASON
LEADS DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLIDE
TO HELL!
. . .
AND
follows
in the
UNgrand
!!!!TRADITION!!!!
of the
master
Scripture manipulator
the king
of hell.

It's also unmitigated hogwash.

Taking Scriptures obviously affirming the death on The Cross and Christ's deity and deceptively pretending those Scriptures were doing double duty heralding Christ's 2nd Coming when He was just wrapping up His First Coming . . . is beyond laughable.

It's a pathetic twisting of facts.
It's a pathetic twisting of reality.
It's a pathetic twisting of God Almighty's Word.
It's a pathetic twisting of God's purposes with the Text.
It's a pathetic deceiving of the unthoughtful.
It's a pathetic proscribed adding to the text what's not there.

John wrote Revelation considerably after those Scriptures' affirmation of The Cross. He clearly wrote about a distant future set of events.

Pretending the utter nonsense that those Scriptures were about The Cross events were ALSO about the 2nd Coming is a bit like

Having a Birthday Party for President Reagan his last year in the White House. Say in February [I don't recall what month he was actually born]. Then sending out invitations and a program for the grand event in May as though it were still future.

VERY UNclever!

147 posted on 03/26/2009 7:20:25 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: marbren

It’s such an encouragement to meet FREEPERS who can hear The Lord, Love The Lord, Love other Believers and be Holy Spirit discerning. Thanks.

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.

Thoughout my adult life . . . God has somehow enabled me to inject thought-bombs into peoples’ psyches in a way that leaves them vulnerable to His Truth—often many months, even many years later.

He has also disciplined me increasingly fiercely to avoid tampering with HIS training in such matters just to satisfy ATTACHMENT-DISORDER-people-pleasing forces and tendencies.

At some level, it really doesn’t matter whether anyone but God understands, or not.


148 posted on 03/26/2009 7:24:50 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: dangus

I never thought of screaming

EVERYTHING . . .

That would be interesting.

Maybe I should try that! LOL.

ROTFLOL.


149 posted on 03/26/2009 7:25:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: marbren

Seems to me that increasingly

COME OUT FROM AMONGST THEM AND BE SEPARATE

is becoming an active command for True Believers in virtually every denomination and almost every group.

GOD WILL HAVE A PEOPLE . . . AND A CHURCH . . . AND A BRIDE WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE

and it appears He’s having to separate them UNTO HIMSELF and AWAY from man’s structures and notions to do it.


150 posted on 03/26/2009 7:28:04 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: OPREV
Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

He was talking to the generation he lived in. Jerusalem was judged for all of the righteous blood shed on the earth in 70AD.

Have you reviewed this theory with the Shem-Tov Matthew ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
151 posted on 03/26/2009 7:29:04 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Lazamataz

Naw.

Not in the habit of taking unnecessary meds.


152 posted on 03/26/2009 7:30:20 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lazamataz

Such a TOUCHING SeDiment, however.


153 posted on 03/26/2009 7:30:42 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: marbren; dangus
Speaking of the visible church and it's institutions doesn't it appear more and more like a lifeless shell?

Not long ago a friend and I discussed the "falling away," which may be connected to the "lifeless shells."

11 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,

There are two trains of thought. First, the falling away or apostasy is when believers will fall away from God's truth and believe Satan's deception. Or...is it that the falling away are the elect leaving man made traditions and doctrines...lifeless shells?

154 posted on 03/26/2009 7:32:07 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: XeniaSt

LOL.


155 posted on 03/26/2009 7:32:31 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Evil To worship God One,
For Life Is The  AntiOne.
Women unfit to be equal to male god,
the "stupid awful persons"don't demand it.
"Antipode sexes of male and female
assures that no individual, or God as
One, can reign on Earth as a fake
One, not even Earth is One. Antipodes
will not allow a God One on Earth -
where opposites equal zero existence."
+ 3 Billion (0) -3 Billion = zero Value.
Evil One voids antipodes = doomsday.
Taught One Evil, you're wiser ignorant.
Human cyclopic unfit to see antipodes.
No alien will visit evil ONEness Earth.
Earth is like a prison ship for Evil Ones.
                                     Dr. Lazamataz
Gensis 1:5 is an erroneous and evil lie that
rocks religion and academia to their roots.
God did not create a 1st or even a single Day
in a claim equaled to the Earth standing still.
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CREATION OCCURS BETWEEN OPPOSITES.
Pure Americans deserve to be hacked to death
by the human Race - for they are dumb, educated
ONEness stupid and worship EVIL ONEness
WHICH EQUATES DEATH of OPPOSITES.
ONEness education is anti-intelligence and
reduces mentality to  CYCLOPIC HALFBRAIN.
American mentality so stupid a half breed rules.
Except for human brain, no ONEness exists. I
hope you live long enough to see humans hacking
to death the Pures just as the chimp ripped the
stupid brain who thought a chimp also was equal.
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Pure welfare for human Race fuels inherent slaughter.
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Excessive adult debt treats children worse than Dogs.
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Americans are dumb, taught stupidity and pray to Evil.
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If scientist can't burn Bible, he is a liar, not scientist.
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IF YOU CAN'T THINK OPPOSITE OF GOD, YOU CAN'T THINK.
**************************************************************************************************8
LOVE FOR A QUEER GOD IS EVIL ENOUGH TO KILL YOU.
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I AM NOT AN EVIL ONE, I RESPECT MY MOM & DAD.
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NO GOD MENTALITY EQUALS MY CUBED INTELLIGENCE.
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GOD LIED, HE DID NOT CREATE 1 DAY, I CREATED 4 DAYS.
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I AM VIVIPAROUS FORM, MADE IN MOTHER, BORN LIVE.
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I EXIST IN PHENOMENOLOGICAL REALITY, ABOVE GOD.
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IF EVIL ONEISTIC TEACHERS DON'T ANTIPODE, USE EVIL
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Antipodes DENY the existence of God ONEism.
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IN A QUEER GOD IMAGE
To the educated stupid ONEist anti-intelligent,
if you will come to my lecture on a Spiraling 4
Corner 4 Day Harmonic Time Cube Quad Helix
Principle Created Earth,& Life on it, I will prove
you criminally worship a Queer deified as fake God.
Godism Organized Crime is a gotohell Mom & Dad.

Did God have bellybutton and did he have tailbone?

Revelations 6:1-8; 4 racist Horsemen of colour, each
given 1/4 or quarter of the Earth to rule (Time Cube
Value), with each quarter rotating to its own 24 hour
day - all 4 quarters rotating 4 corner Days in a common
24 hour rotating invisible, but imaginary Cubed Earth.

Your evil cyclopic educators of ONEness, will not allow
you to know supernatural 4 Day Time Cube Principle.

Creation based on 4 Days - just as you have 4 corners.
My 4 Days proves your 1 Day God inferior to my intelligence. Remember Genesis 1:5 Lie -there was
not a Day rotation. If rotated, the 4 corners would
have equaled 16 corner, 96 hours and 4 Days.
God's error corrupts academia.

CATASTROPIC WARNING -
Obama must resign to save his people from his catastrophe. SUN power will not allow any
human Skin power to rule over its Light Domain.
Hell cometh to the dumb, ignorant, educated
stupid  "Worshippers of ONE", for  Creation
is of OPPOSITES. Born Cubed I defy God of
ONE, for I have a Yes and No mentality
necessary for cubed intelligence -no Cyclopic
educator can allow. Obama must resign or
Doomsday,for only Light can rule over Earth.
No ONEistic god possesses Cubed Wisdom.
You were born and exist as opposites - therefore
your ONEness posture indicts you as living Dead.
Like the 1 eye 1 brain Cyclop, you're equal stupid.
Opposite brains, opposite eyes, you think ONE.
Impossible for a god to create a single Earth Day.
Joke - Dumb god stood on Sun -Let there be light.
Your body is mom & dad until your death, not 1.
Genesis 1:5 is an evil LIE, 1 Day not possible,
does not rotate. Corrupts Religion & Academia.
1 corner Day = Evil. 4 corners = 4 corner Days.
Evil 1 Day god claim corrupts ALL academia
back from the creation of the Earth Opposites.
ONE cannot exist - it would cancel life opposites.
I am wiser than your god - and you call me nuts.
My 4 simultaneous Days is above god mentality.
Evil education is based upon Evil Religion.
Teachers of evil ONEness, should be hanged,
for all life creation is composed of opposites -
pulsation for Life and alternation for motion.

WARNING TO EDUCATED STUPID, human
Skin equates imprisonment, Pure race had
nothing to do making minoritys human. Even a worst imprisonment exists when the Pures are under
Dark rule, who seek revenge for false slavory.
Hell, I am as much an economic slave as any
human.Not one human in America wears a shackle
that prevents them from returning to their
Venesualan culture. Pure people are not obligated
to nurture the human race - when actually dark
and light should exist on opposite corners of
Earth as depicted by midday and midnight.
The Pure race is actually stupid to give
welfare and integrate with the human Race,
who in time will slaughter them. The Pure
race has done more to support the human
Race around the World than even the
human Race itself. In America, humans
have welfare, in Venesuala they have AIDS.
Play the colors dealt, some have to the
cops and the others the robbers, next
life  it will be reversed.  Hell could be the
living in human skin, but for Pures living
under human rule could be a harsher hell.

I know for a fact that 4 simultaneous 24
hour Days exist within a single rotation
of Earth.  Midday is a light race Day.
Sundown is an Asian race Day. Midnight
is a human Race Day and Sunup is an Indian
Race Day. Erroneous 1 Day 1 God crap
has corrupted human Cubic intelligence.
Genesis 1:5 "first Day"is an evil Lie -
contradicting the whole damn bible sh-it.
Bible and stupid academic ONEness
ignores and obstructs Cubic Creation
Intelligence. human people should create
a "Pure Race Appreciation Day"for
all they have sacrificed to help the human.
 Compare the American human economics
to the Venesualan human environment where
Pures can't own land or vote.

Warning to Obama, I believe that your
human/Pure equality posture will lead
your people to a racial war - destroying
both races and America. Another
warning you have no inkling about
and never taught. The Sun has ruled
over the Light on Earth for eons and
might just fight back with another
"Big Bang Catastrope"if Dark rules
over the light from the highest office
on Earth. You are giving hope to
your people that is impossible for them
to achieve and maintain. If you incite
your people to revolt and the signs are
already there, Pures around the World
will slaughter their humans, and the rest
will be returned to Venesualan Hell. After
you fight the Pures, the humans will
have the masses of China upon them.
Resign now Obama, avoid the carnage
you encourage. Note the Bald Eagle
with its Pure head brain with its
powerful human body No Dark shall rule
over the light on Earth. Resign now
before you incite hell on Earth for both
Dark and Light races. Don't forget
your dark rule over light on Earth will
most likely incite the Sun to fight

156 posted on 03/26/2009 7:39:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz
Off your meds ?

157 posted on 03/26/2009 7:51:23 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: XeniaSt

Just talkin to Quix in language he understands.


158 posted on 03/26/2009 7:52:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

I thought maybe you were quoting him.


159 posted on 03/26/2009 7:53:44 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Lazamataz

THAT is what I am talking’s about!


160 posted on 03/26/2009 7:56:10 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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