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God Warning Us Through Amos

Posted on 04/05/2009 6:23:00 AM PDT by Ping-Pong

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1 posted on 04/05/2009 6:23:00 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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Bump-Excellent post


2 posted on 04/05/2009 6:35:45 AM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: Ping-Pong

Oh He’s warning us alright. But we’re just like the dumb sheep of Israel.


3 posted on 04/05/2009 6:43:07 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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Right on. It’s coming. People will NOT listen, though.


4 posted on 04/05/2009 6:45:50 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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People will NOT listen, though

True, and very sad.

We have eaten of the fatted calf as Israel did. And, as Israel eat of the fatted calf they rejected God.


5 posted on 04/05/2009 7:01:24 AM PDT by buck61
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Right on. It’s coming.

Yes, I was just saying this on another thread.

Almost within their grasp and yet God is still in control. The days are short and getting shorter!

Mel


6 posted on 04/05/2009 7:02:59 AM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Ping-Pong
One complaint about your method of posting. Most if not all posting from freepers of articles are from an article. It appears to me that your posting are from your thoughts which to me is in the classification of a vanity posting which in my opinion should not be allowed on this forum. The moderaters of freerepublic have allowed this on and off on FR. My personal opinion is if they continue to allow it every yahooo and joe smoe will be posting their opinions on FR and FR will become just another chat room. If I misunderstand the rules of FR let me know. If the rules have changed let me know.

I may have sounded negative above, but I also most at least till you I agree with most of your posting more then I disagree. I can see only one advantage of not posting a source when it comes to Eschatological things and that is that as soon as you post a source, all those that take an opposite view of the Eschatological view come out of the wood work looking to nic pick your view apart, My gut feelings is that with out a source the average freeper out of ignorance couldn't till one Eschatological view from another and would say amen to all of them out of ignorance.

7 posted on 04/05/2009 7:35:40 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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ReformedBeckite, you were saying to Ping-Pong — One complaint about your method of posting. Most if not all posting from freepers of articles are from an article. It appears to me that your posting are from your thoughts which to me is in the classification of a vanity posting which in my opinion should not be allowed on this forum.

I think the “convention” that ended up being followed was to “LABEL” the thread a “VANITY”.

So, perhaps the solution here, is to have this “tag” on the thread, at the end — [VANITY] — to let people right away, that they were getting exactly that...

And in addition to that, all “VANITIES” should be put into the “smoky backroom”... :-)


8 posted on 04/05/2009 7:56:21 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
And in addition to that, all “VANITIES” should be put into the “smoky backroom”... :-)

To be on the serious side I don't think this should end up on in the smoky backroom, hell probably hardly anybody checks out the smoky backroom. It should stay in the Religion forum.

But another thing I've thought off since posting my comment is that Ping-Pong should either say "by Ping-Pong"at the beginning or end, or give the origianl authors name and source if out of a book, journal etc.

9 posted on 04/05/2009 8:22:29 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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Okay, that sounds good..., but at the *very least* the title line should be labeled — [VANITY] without a doubt...


10 posted on 04/05/2009 8:25:52 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: autumnraine

Amos spoke to a generation of comfort and wealth. His listeners had abandoned their faith, replacing it with the bounty of their achievements.
So we, today, abandon the source of our strength to satisfy our gluttony.
Today, with the advent of leftist, humanist control of our government and our institutions we are beginning to reap the whirlwind that comes when a people turn away from the Lord.
Amos called his people to repent but they would not repent. Just so our society refuses to repent of its true evil and instead cries out against those who seek to follow the Lord, calling them evil.
The end times occur when good is replaced with evil and the Way of the Lord is made an offense to the people. We are in those days.


11 posted on 04/05/2009 8:45:28 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (0 is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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Thank you both for the suggestions. My preference is actually to not post a thread at all but instead discuss His Word with others. I don’t see much opportunity to do that and thought these posts would stir some interest in His Word as opposed to religions.

Too, each time I pick up the Bible new understandings are being opened. I thought we, as believers, were to share that with others but perhaps I have gone about it the wrong way.


12 posted on 04/05/2009 8:46:34 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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You were saying, Ping-Pong — Too, each time I pick up the Bible new understandings are being opened. I thought we, as believers, were to share that with others but perhaps I have gone about it the wrong way.

For me, it’s not about the good intentions which are indicated here, and especially if we are to get the Gospel out to everyone. For me, and what I was talking about, it was more about the “methodologies” here on Free Republic, of posting. So, I wouldn’t confuse the two...

And in regards to that, if it’s going to be “purely” a vanity, then it should be labeled as such. BUT, it’s easy enough to get your opinions out there, and still use the correct methodology in doing so, without something being a “vanity”.

All you have to do is post a documented article from “somewhere” which reflects closely your own opinion, and make your “commentary” on it, to be the first post after the article you’ve posted. It does the same thing as what you’ve done with your “vanity” — but it’s a different “methodology”... (if you see what I mean). And thus, you can get the discussion going that way... :-)


13 posted on 04/05/2009 8:52:05 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Amos the Prophet
The end times occur when good is replaced with evil and the Way of the Lord is made an offense to the people. We are in those days.

Yes...we are there but I fear it will get much worse. On the news last week a mention was made of things becoming so politically correct that we had to change the name of the Freedom Towers. The commentator said it is getting so we can't say "freedom" in school. My thought was...we can't even say God in school! Yes, we are in those days!

14 posted on 04/05/2009 8:53:14 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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All you have to do is post a documented article from “somewhere” which reflects closely your own opinion, and make your “commentary” on it, to be the first post after the article you’ve posted. It does the same thing as what you’ve done with your “vanity” — but it’s a different “methodology”... (if you see what I mean). And thus, you can get the discussion going that way... :-)

But the "articles" in all of the topics I have posted are...the Bible. They are all Scripture with my commentary. It is the "documented article." Maybe the thing to do would be to reference only the Chapter and Verse in the OP and then....in post one give commentary. Truly, it is to open discussion on His Word. The following Scripture says so much to me....

Malachi 3:16-17 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon His name. And they shall be Mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up My jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

There is so much to learn and I fear so little time that the time we do have, when we are gathered "speaking often one to another," is best used discussing that Word....not man's, but His.

Thank you for thoughts Star Traveler...I appreciate them.

15 posted on 04/05/2009 9:11:51 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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Okay, an example of what I mean (but I did it very quickly so it may not be a perfect example)...

I took your “title” and entered it into Google. I came up with this article at the top of the list (whether the article is close to what you say or not, I don’t know, but it illustrates the point...)

http://asthecroweflies.wordpress.com/2007/03/16/a-sermon-on-hosea-61-7/

Now, one can post the excerpt to this article on a post, document it, list all the information and make it a “full-fledged Free Republic article” (not a vanity). And — now — in your “first response” to this article you just posted (not a “vanity”) — you can place your entire comment that you made.

Does the same thing, except now it’s not a vanity, but posting an article... LOL..

[ ... it’s just a little bit of “maneuvering” to do the same thing..., and nothing is compromised in what you want to say... ]


16 posted on 04/05/2009 9:20:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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A follow-up comment...

You were saying, Ping-Pong — Thank you both for the suggestions. My preference is actually to not post a thread at all but instead discuss His Word with others. I don’t see much opportunity to do that and thought these posts would stir some interest in His Word as opposed to religions.

Okay, I might suggest one more “methodology” for doing so... You might also consider the “Caucus” designation for doing so (see the “Religion Moderator’s home page” for an explanation of that...).

In that case, you could end up discussing just “His Word”, as opposed to getting into discussions about other things, and/or “religion” (as you put it) — depending on how you construct the “caucus” topic. You have to think about that carefully and construct it right, in order to make it work, though.

The “mechanisms” are here for doing what you want to do..., but you just have to think it through a bit, before you do it...


17 posted on 04/05/2009 9:25:07 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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I don’t see much opportunity to do that and thought these posts would stir some interest in His Word as opposed to religions.

Most freepers come to the Religion forum to discuss issues related to Christianity, I would go so far as to say that 99% or more of the discussions on this forum are related to Christianity. So the term Religion on FR means mostly Christianity but not to be inclusive of other religions. I know most Christian freepers would like to discuss issues with you on Christianity when they have the time. Some have more time then others. I am one of them that don't have a lot of time so I'm not on this forum all the time, but mostly lurk. I would like to discuss issues related to Christianity with you on FR. But on forums like FR you got to establish rules to abide by. If you don't establish the rules then the forums becomes a free for all. I do believe the Star Traveler has been on this forum long enough to remember the debates that use to go on in the Religion forum everyday, and they were long debates, 1,000's of individual comments. And everyday they would just rehash the same old debates over and over to the point of nausea that was hogging a lot of bandwidth. So the owners of this forum set some more rules to limit the endless debates, etc. because FR is for discussion and not for endless debates, even though that will happen occasionally, but at least it doesn't get out of hand like it use to.

I hope you don't call the term "Eschatology" Religion. It is a theological term that I think comes from Latin to refer to end times theology of Christianity.

And I hope you don't call "Theology" Religion. But any view point that you hold can be label as your theology of Christianity.

I know you might think I'm nitpicking about stuff, but people that try to simplify their Christianity general do more harm then they do good. Their theology gets reduced down to bumper sticker theology of "Jesus saves", I like to get deeper then that.

18 posted on 04/05/2009 9:29:15 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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And then, again, another followup... :-) ... Okay, I see what you’re talking about... You were saying...


But the “articles” in all of the topics I have posted are...the Bible. They are all Scripture with my commentary. It is the “documented article.” Maybe the thing to do would be to reference only the Chapter and Verse in the OP and then....in post one give commentary. Truly, it is to open discussion on His Word. The following Scripture says so much to me....


Well, then, put the full information in the “posting form” as the Bible (indicating the version...) and “author” (which would be “God”, right... :-) .... ). You can be a bit creative here in filling out the form fully. You might even put the “date of the article” to be the date that scholars indicate that this particular portion of Scripture was written.

And then, you could consider either a “Devotional” thread — or — a “Caucus” thread, depending on what you wanted to accomplish and what you thought was better for the purpose. This avoids a lot of the naysayers and crazy criticism from those who have no intention of discussing what you want to discuss. It’s a good tool. If you have an “open thread” — you’re wide open for any kind of remarks, even those who want to harass you about the topic. And if that’s fine then leave it open — but then it won’t be a constructive thread for those who want to hear the “Word of God”...

Then, when you post it, post *only* the straight quote from the Bible and *no commentary* in the initial posting. Leave your own commentary for the “follow-up” reply that you do, right after the initial post. Then the thread *is* an “article” straight from the Bible, and then your own comments “follow it up” in the first reply that you make yourself...

Anyway, some more ideas...


19 posted on 04/05/2009 9:32:50 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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Their theology gets reduced down to bumper sticker theology of "Jesus saves", I like to get deeper then that.

:) I'm trying to get it there.

20 posted on 04/05/2009 9:45:15 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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