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Tony Blair Tells The Pope: You're Wrong On Homosexuality
London Times ^ | April 07, 2009

Posted on 04/07/2009 6:47:35 PM PDT by Steelfish

From The Times April 8, 2009 Tony Blair tells the Pope: you're wrong on homosexuality

Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

Tony Blair has challenged the “entrenched” attitudes of the Pope on homosexuality, and argued that it is time for him to “rethink” his views.

Speaking to the gay magazine Attitude, the former Prime Minister, himself now a Roman Catholic, said that he wanted to urge religious figures everywhere to reinterpret their religious texts to see them as metaphorical, not literal, and suggested that in time this would make all religious groups accept gay people as equals.

Asked about the Pope’s stance, Mr Blair blamed generational differences and said: “We need an attitude of mind where rethinking and the concept of evolving attitudes becomes part of the discipline with which you approach your religious faith.”

The Pope, who is 82, remains firmly opposed to any relaxation of the Church’s traditional stance on homosexuality, contraception or any other area of human sexuality. He has described homosexuality as a “tendency” towards an “intrinsic moral evil”.

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1 posted on 04/07/2009 6:47:35 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Is this enough for excommunication?


2 posted on 04/07/2009 6:49:52 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Steelfish

Hey, Pope Bennie-boy, we’d like you to rethink your views on Heaven, too. And while you’re at it, we have a little problem with that “sin” thing...


3 posted on 04/07/2009 6:50:02 PM PDT by paul in cape
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To: Steelfish

I guess that whole thing about idolotars, whoremongers, fornicators, and adulterers not inherting the kingdom of heaven was just a joke.


4 posted on 04/07/2009 6:50:25 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Steelfish

Tony Blair, you moron.


5 posted on 04/07/2009 6:50:41 PM PDT by A. Morgan (The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Steelfish

I dont think Tony Blair is near an authority on what the Pope shoud do about homosexuality.


6 posted on 04/07/2009 6:50:53 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Steelfish

Farmer18th tells the Pope: you’re right on homosexuality.


7 posted on 04/07/2009 6:50:56 PM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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To: Steelfish

Blair is more afraid of the bathhouse boys and the gay mafia, than his Lord?


8 posted on 04/07/2009 6:53:12 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: Steelfish

Blair’s “conversion” was phony.

The priest who brought him into the Church was one of those priests who love to pal around with prominent people. Blair entered the Church without any public repudiation of his pro-abortion history. That alone makes his “conversion” fraudulent. No priest or bishop with any integrity would have allowed him to go through the motions of joining the Church without demanding such a public repudiation.

Blair can be counted on to give evidence for years to come that he has not really become a Catholic.


9 posted on 04/07/2009 6:53:22 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If Bishop D'Arcy finds out a priest is molesting kids, he will boycott the parish's Fall Supper!!!)
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To: Steelfish
Tony Blair's "conversion" to Catholicism is evidently metaphorical, not literal.
10 posted on 04/07/2009 6:54:04 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Steelfish

Speaking to the gay magazine Attitude, the former Prime Minister, himself now a Roman Catholic


So Blair is just one more infiltrator to the Church in an attempt to undermine it from within. Just because he joined, all of a sudden he gets to set rules for the Church? I’d tell him to hit the road and wouldn’t care if the door hit him on the way out or not.


11 posted on 04/07/2009 6:54:48 PM PDT by kenth (Obama - One Big Ass Mistake, America)
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To: Steelfish

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are not the Pope’s ideas. They are God’s ideas.

Why not take a quick trip to the Throne Room of God and argue with him, Toni Blare.

The man has no concept of The Catholic Church.

(shaking head in disgust)


12 posted on 04/07/2009 6:54:51 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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To: Steelfish

Hey Tony STFU!


13 posted on 04/07/2009 6:54:52 PM PDT by Batman11 ("Big ears isn't my President!")
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To: Steelfish

Sadly, it seems Tony is a ‘Cafeteria Catholic’.


14 posted on 04/07/2009 6:54:54 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Steelfish
I love it. Blair has been "Catholic" for what--a year maybe? And he's lecturing the Pope on matters of faith. Poor Tony missed his calling--he could be a duet partner with Obama--call themselves "The Mirrors."
15 posted on 04/07/2009 6:55:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (AN)
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To: Steelfish
As my non-Catholic father used to say, Be a Catholic or don't be a Catholic. But don't get into the Church and try to change it to suit yourself. He always got furious when people would try to change the doctrines of what he called the Katolische Church.
16 posted on 04/07/2009 6:57:53 PM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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To: Steelfish
why... so it can become like the CoE??? i think not.
17 posted on 04/07/2009 6:58:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Steelfish
Lets see Jesus Annihilated Sodom and Gomorrah and he called homosexuality an OBANATION.... and Tony Blairs Theological point of view is what exactly??
18 posted on 04/07/2009 6:58:47 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (Why is the USA upside down Morally??)
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To: Steelfish

it’s bad enough he has allowed the savage death cult muslims to damn near completely take over his own country, now this. I can’t believe I used to support this gomer.


19 posted on 04/07/2009 6:59:07 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Steelfish

Tony, just go back to the Anglican church where you belong. They love homos.


20 posted on 04/07/2009 7:02:06 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: Steelfish

The Pope called Blair in and talked to him before he “converted,” but clearly this had no effect. Blair’s wife is a cradle Catholic and is completely left-wing, both politically and religiously, and obviously runs her husband.


21 posted on 04/07/2009 7:02:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: Steelfish

Remember when ‘ol Tone came across as being ‘all Christian like’ right before the Iraq war? He’s just another ‘bottom tissue’.


22 posted on 04/07/2009 7:03:32 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("The smallest minority on earth is the 'individual'." ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Steelfish

And he’s campaigning to become the first “permanent president” of the EU ????


23 posted on 04/07/2009 7:05:43 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (There are no points for second place.)
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To: RPTMS
As a matter of fact, I wish all Liberal Catholics would do that. Both they, and we, would be much happier.
24 posted on 04/07/2009 7:05:55 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: Steelfish
he wanted to urge religious figures everywhere to reinterpret their religious texts to see them as metaphorical, not literal

So metaphorically speaking homosexuality is an abomination, but not literally???? I am sorry Mr. Blair, but your logic fails.

25 posted on 04/07/2009 7:05:58 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Steelfish
If he disagrees with you, Prime Minister, it is because you are wrong.

He is...

...The Most Interesting Man In The World.

26 posted on 04/07/2009 7:09:35 PM PDT by RichInOC (RATZ: HOW ARE YOU SATAN!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: Steelfish

You gotta be kidding me.
His opinion on this matter has about the same gravitas as Paris Hiltons.


27 posted on 04/07/2009 7:10:26 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: philly-d-kidder
Lets see Jesus Annihilated Sodom and Gomorrah and he called homosexuality an OBANATION....

Even if you use Blairs logic that it was just a metaphor, it still means the Bible considers homosexuality wrong. His argument makes no logical sense. OK, it is a metaphor, does that mean it is a normal healthy righteous activity?

28 posted on 04/07/2009 7:11:08 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: mowowie
His opinion on this matter has about the same gravitas as Paris Hiltons.

Don't insult Paris. She is more capable of putting together a logical argument.

29 posted on 04/07/2009 7:12:22 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Steelfish

Not a Catholic for a year yet and he thinks he can tell the Pope how to do his job??? What a cheeky bastard!


30 posted on 04/07/2009 7:14:01 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Steelfish

Ah I see that Tony Blair has been hanging out with Nancy Pelosi. Let’s just leave Catholic theology up to the Pope and other people in the Catholic church who actually now something abbout Catholicism.


31 posted on 04/07/2009 7:14:45 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: Steelfish

I would listen to Benny Hill before I’d listen to Tony Blair.


32 posted on 04/07/2009 7:16:07 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (If your glad it's baseball season then jump out of your seat and dance!!!!)
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To: Steelfish

Blair tells God ... you’re wrong ... and FUBO says so too


33 posted on 04/07/2009 7:20:38 PM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... protege of the unholy union of Karl Marx and affirmative action)
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To: steve86

Very, very clever


34 posted on 04/07/2009 7:27:14 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
I just read the excerpts, but it seems like he hasn't overtly contradicted Church teachings, just incited people against the Roman Pontiff. Any canonical penalty therefore would be ferendae sententiae, requiring the involvement of the bishop.

If he were to commit heresy, the penalty (excommunication) would be latae sententiae, or automatic without sentence.

35 posted on 04/07/2009 7:27:43 PM PDT by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: Steelfish

Clemenza to Tony Blair: Go push your own G-D broom and let the Pope do HIS job!


36 posted on 04/07/2009 7:32:57 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

OK there Tony Linda Blair...if the Lord utters to you instead ‘thy will be done’ expect results that are not so bloody good ole bloke!


37 posted on 04/07/2009 7:34:12 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Steelfish
Asked about the Pope’s stance, Mr Blair blamed generational differences and said: “We need an attitude of mind where rethinking and the concept of evolving attitudes becomes part of the discipline with which you approach your religious faith.”

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Ummmmm..... Tony.....

Neither God.... nor His Holy Word....
Are obligated to "evolve" to suit the demands of a perverse sub-culture and its adherents and advicates....

Ergo.... it follows...
That the messengers God has chosen and ordained to convey the Gospel in every culture and generation are called and GLADLY OBLIGATED to be faithful to the LORD, and proclaim the Word faithfully...

Great is thy faithfulness, O God my Father...
There is no shadow of turning with Thee!

Perhaps the dynamnics should be reversed -- and the eternal truth becomes the basis for approaching the "attitude of mind" governing the culture.

Your eternal outcome will be more favorable - imho.

38 posted on 04/07/2009 7:34:22 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Steelfish

Gee, Tony...welcome to the flock and all but nobody asked for your opinion.


39 posted on 04/07/2009 7:37:23 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Steelfish

There was a recent study from Harvard which showed that people who use condoms are more prone to get AIDS than people who don’t, because the condoms give them a false sense of security and are more likely to promote promiscuous behavior - so the Pope was right on scientific and statistical grounds as well as religious ones.


40 posted on 04/07/2009 7:37:27 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Steelfish

Pretty cheeky for a brand spanking new Catholic.


41 posted on 04/07/2009 7:38:53 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: kenth

“So Blair is just one more infiltrator to the Church in an attempt to undermine it from within.”

Bingo.


42 posted on 04/07/2009 7:39:42 PM PDT by chase19
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To: chase19

The whole world community appears to be jumping on the bandwagon to whack our dear Pope. We just need him to stay strong. Pray hard for this beautiful man of God.


43 posted on 04/07/2009 7:44:51 PM PDT by chase19
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Tony Blair has challenged the “entrenched” attitudes of the Pope on homosexuality, and argued that it is time for him to “rethink” his views.

Speaking to the gay magazine Attitude, the former Prime Minister, himself now a Roman Catholic, said that he wanted to urge religious figures everywhere to reinterpret their religious texts to see them as metaphorical, not literal, and suggested that in time this would make all religious groups accept gay people as equals.

And as they were going along the road they came to some salt, and the eunuch said, "See, here is salt! What prevents me from having it rubbed in my wound?"
- Acts 8:36, AMV (Alex Murphy Version)

44 posted on 04/07/2009 7:45:52 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Presbyterians often forget that John Knox had been a Sunday bowler.)
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To: Steelfish

‘He said: “When people quote the passages in Leviticus condemning homosexuality, I say to them — if you read the whole of the Old Testament and took everything that was there in a literal way, as being what God and religion is about, you’d have some pretty tough policies across the whole of the piece.”’

Notice how old Tony doesn’t have the courage to deal with these New Testament passages of Romans 1:24-27, I Corinthians 6:9-10, I Timothy 1:10 or with how Jesus Himself defined marriage as involving one male and one female in Matthew 19:4-6 and how He condemned all sex outside of marriage(under the Matthew 19:4-6 definition) in Mark 7:21.

Exactly, why are we supposed to be impressed with Blair? Give me the Winston Churchills and Iron Ladies of yesteryear any day over this dufus who’s presided over the secularization and Islamification of a once great nation.


45 posted on 04/07/2009 7:54:24 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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Uh...Tony...?It’s pretty clear that Jesus,(you,know...the guy that Christianity is founded on...),thought marriage was one man and one woman.(Matthew 19:4-6).Perhaps you’d like to take it up with Him?


46 posted on 04/07/2009 8:10:29 PM PDT by massmike
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To: ottbmare
As my non-Catholic father used to say, Be a Catholic or don't be a Catholic. But don't get into the Church and try to change it to suit yourself.

Kudos to your father! Reminds me of my Presbyterian grandmother, who showed more respect for the Pope than the self-described Catholics in my family.

47 posted on 04/07/2009 8:37:30 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Obamanomics: Chains you can believe in.)
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To: Steelfish

Someone needs to give him the Catechism so he can see for himself that it’s not just the Pope’s opinion.


48 posted on 04/07/2009 9:04:10 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: massmike

Tony Blair:”Well,what does Jesus have to do with Christianity anyway?”


49 posted on 04/07/2009 9:11:12 PM PDT by massmike
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To: Steelfish

A mistake on Blair’s part. He’s a new Catholic, I have to cut him some slack.


50 posted on 04/07/2009 10:33:15 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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