Posted on 04/22/2009 12:10:00 PM PDT by Colofornian
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Yes; and so has RESTY!
I wonder what SUSTAIN 'really' means?
Good morning Elsie..
What was that ???
“They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to Myths.”
Such as Joseph’S Myths...
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Beast and a half!
Gotta go - catch you this afternoon...
perpetual placemarker
marked place
As to the term you probably intended - it is not that, but rather honest acknowledgment of what ANY person’s best efforts are actually worth in obtaining entry into heaven, when taken apart from G_d and His abundant grace.
Context means everything, restornu - and I think all in this forum who are not ignorant would agree that “the term” being discussed is applicable NOT to a person’s righteousness obtained by G_d’s mercy through Christ’s sacrifice and cleansing blood, but to any works done outside of G_d that pretend to provide sufficient righteousness.
Christ died on the Cross; His blood flowed.
That blood replaces the blood of all the ceremonial sacrifices of ox and lamb and dove which were under the old covenant, and considered temporary, because they were imperfect (even when unblemished) and temporary (because they lacked the soul of humanity and the eternity of G_d).
Here then is the paradox which our Lord presents us with:
Our unrighteousness - our “filthy (bloody) rags” can only be cleansed - by being washed in the blood shed by Christ upon Golgotha.
Without that Blessed Blood as a cleansing, covering “agent” - we are like Adam and Eve, naked and ashamed.
G_d cannot see us as other than covered in the bloody guilt of our sins under the law, and the law demands justice - demands that a penalty be paid. After all, we are told if a man breaks one commandment, he has broken them all - so we might as well be guilty of murder in that sense - so stained are we.
Our Salvation - once and for always - is that we are told where there is a cleansing flood we may crawl through. Once we are cleansed, that blood becomes a lens through which G_d sees not our sins, but the righteousness of His Son who lovingly paid our debt in full.
Recognizing that we cannot obtain such a result on our own is ther furthest thing from phony humility, restornu.
It is a love that is humbled by the awesomeness of such a sacrifice, that “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us...” “that none might perish, but that all may have eternal life”.
The passage is there in the Bible, and it does not say that we “Are” filthy..., but that our best efforts are “As” filthy. In practical terms it is a simile, not a metaphor, but even if it was a metaphor, it would still present an accurate image, and we would still be allowed entry into heaven, and fellowship with Christ for eternity on the basis of our choosing salvation in his blood, and a relationship with him.
That is not ignorance, it is Scriptural truth, vouchsafed by the Holy Spirit.
I'm afraid your words fell on the deaf ears of the person you responded to, but I think that lurkers reading this thread can see the mind-set that infests mormonism, and the hateful "full-of hate" responses to the words of God shown here.
Some folks seem to be on a daily diet of rue and wormwood, with the residue leaking from their keyboard.
Selling your SOUL?
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Seriously, at a great discount of only 10% of your annual gross income, plus eternity but they only put that in the “fine print”.
An amazing accurate summary.
“If you want to know what the Lord has for this people at the present time, I would admonish you to get and read the discourses that are delivered at general conference; for what the Brethren speak by the power of the Holy Ghost is the mind of the Lord, the will of the Lord, the voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto salvation” (Harold B. Lee, Conference Reports, April 1973, p. 176
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It does not get much plainer than that.
Bump for a different Mitt thread
you should post that on the other mitt thread.
I thought it was the actual movie...
Its just an ad for it...
I thought it was the actual movie...
Its just an ad for it...
It is still a powerful ad.
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