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A Spoonful of Jesus Helps Darwin Go Down (What the Evos really think of Christian compromise)
WEIT ^ | Jerry Coyne, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/23/2009 7:27:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

For if we ever begin to suppress our search to understand nature, to quench our own intellectual excitement in a misguided effort to present a united front where it does not and should not exist, then we are truly lost.

–Stephen Jay Gould

[Y]ou’ve heard me complain about scientific organizations that sell evolution by insisting that it’s perfectly consistent with religion. Evolution, they say, threatens many peoples’ religious views — not just the literalism of Genesis, but also the morality that supposedly emanates from scripture. Professional societies like the National Academy of Sciences — the most elite organization of American scientists — have concluded that to make evolution palatable to Americans, you must show that it is not only consistent with religion, but also no threat to it. (And so much the better if, as theologians like John Haught assert, evolution actually deepens our faith.) Given that many members of such organizations are atheists, their stance of accommodationism appears to be a pragmatic one.

Here I argue that the accommodationist position of the National Academy of Sciences, and especially that of the National Center for Science Education, is a self-defeating tactic, compromising the very science they aspire to defend. By seeking union with religious people, and emphasizing that there is no genuine conflict between faith and science, they are making accommodationism not just a tactical position, but a philosophical one. By ignoring the significant dissent in the scientific community about whether religion and science can be reconciled, they imply a unanimity that does not exist. Finally, by consorting with scientists and philosophers who incorporate supernaturalism into their view of evolution, they erode the naturalism that underpins modern evolutionary theory.

Let’s begin with a typical accommodationist statement—this one from the National Academy of Sciences...

(Excerpt) Read more at whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ...


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1 posted on 04/23/2009 7:27:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; DaveLoneRanger; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/23/2009 7:28:21 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: fanfan; allmendream

Your allies tell us what they think of you, and those in the Temple of Darwin who tolerate you.


3 posted on 04/23/2009 7:30:28 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Your allies tell us what they think of you, and those in the Temple of Darwin who tolerate you.

I beg your pardon?

4 posted on 04/23/2009 7:33:33 PM PDT by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: fanfan

ggg is under the impression that is anyone who claims to be a scientist that every last scientist on Earth automatically agrees with his claims.

ggg isn’t included in the To: field as per his request.


5 posted on 04/23/2009 7:35:35 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Have you ever advocated compromise with conventional science?


6 posted on 04/23/2009 7:35:56 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: fanfan

These are the people who constantly insult creationists that you are so eager to defend.


7 posted on 04/23/2009 7:39:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: tacticalogic

Darwin’s fanciful creation myth is not science, it is a materialist religious assumption about the unobservable, unrepeatable past.


8 posted on 04/23/2009 7:43:18 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Darwin’s fanciful creation myth is not science, it is a materialist religious assumption about the unobservable, unrepeatable past.

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

9 posted on 04/23/2009 7:47:36 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I am endowed by my Creator...not by humans prone to error.


10 posted on 04/23/2009 7:49:12 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: GodGunsGuts
Spam Spam Spam!

In other important news...CBS has just announced a SPECIAL! of Barbara Streisand LIVE IN CONCERT.

11 posted on 04/23/2009 7:53:57 PM PDT by Inappropriate Laughter
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To: GodGunsGuts

I don’t believe that science & religion can go hand in hand with regard to man & his existence.

God will have his folly with those that test his patience.


12 posted on 04/23/2009 7:56:19 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: GodGunsGuts

You are generalizing my friend, not all scientists share those views.

Here is one example that will falsify your hypothesis.

“I am a religious person and I believe in God. I find the militant atheism of some evolutionary biologists ill-reasoned and childish, and most importantly unscientific — crucially, faith should not be subject to scientific justification.” ~ Henry Gee

http://stevereuland.blogspot.com/2006/04/wittlessly-quote-mining.html


13 posted on 04/23/2009 7:58:39 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: tacticalogic

Rule 5 has yet to be defined.

http://www.angelfire.com/folk/gibbsrules/


14 posted on 04/23/2009 8:02:37 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

Nuther load of bad weed?


15 posted on 04/23/2009 8:03:34 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: tacticalogic

You think that was ridicule? Evolutionists are the champions of ridicule and name calling.
You just can’t deal with evolution being stated as a “materialist religious assumption about the unobservable, unrepeatable past.”
Instead of debating that point, you accuse the person of ridicule.


16 posted on 04/23/2009 8:03:37 PM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: editor-surveyor

Let me guess - you have a problem with N.C.I.S?


17 posted on 04/23/2009 8:05:42 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Stark_GOP
You think that was ridicule?

Isn't that what you get when you string a bunch of perjoratives together?

18 posted on 04/23/2009 8:07:57 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; GodGunsGuts
"Have you ever advocated compromise with conventional science?"

With real science, there is no need for compromise. With evolution, compromising with false religion is without benefit, thus pointless. Evolution needs only to be allowed to die from the wounds that science has inflicted.

19 posted on 04/23/2009 8:08:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

You would not know what science was if hit you in the face.

Perhaps you need more coffee?


20 posted on 04/23/2009 8:11:07 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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