Posted on 05/02/2009 2:35:35 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
The only translations sincerely attempting accuracy are the ones that adhere to your own personal interpretation. Got it.
"MIA TWN SABBATWN" which is a derivation of the Hebrew...
Strongs:
G4521Thayer:σάββατον
sabbaton
sab'-bat-on
Of Hebrew origin [H7676]; the Sabbath (that is, Shabbath), or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself); by extension a se'nnight, that is, the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications: - sabbath (day), week.
G4521Neither of these are acceptable, presumably, because they offer "week" as another usage.σάββατον
sabbaton
Thayer Definition:
1) the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
1a) the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b) a single sabbath, sabbath day
2) seven days, a week
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Hebrew origin H7676
Citing in TDNT: 7:1, 989
Can you give me sola scriptura where it says that Scripture alone should be our sole authority? Tradition plays a significant role as well.
2 Thessalonians 2:15: "Therefore brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions you received from us, either by word or by letter."
This continues to be your claim.
Sunday is nothing.
Nothing but the day Christ rose from the dead.
Such is your claim, which narrows the Greek usage to suit your purposes.
Since you folks continue to defraud your membership by not calling this Greek word what it really is....you are trashing scripture.
So by not agreeing with your narrowing of the translation of that Greek word, we are trashing Scripture?
When did you acquire this power over Scripture? Was Rosemary's Baby involved in the acquisition?
Admitting your bizarre narrowing of the Greek translation of that word would destroy the truth of Christ's Sunday morning Resurrection?
I'll answer your other questions later....I must take a break to see to my dogs.
Which of those dogs was the father of Rosemary's Baby?
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made paper and was published among us . . .
Here is your problem. You are not seeking out the word that is used in the manuscripts. SABBATON is not the word in any of the resurrection passages. The word is SABBATWN!
SABBATWN is not SABBATON!
SABBATWN does not mean week! It means a special Sabbath, one of the seven ordained by The Lord god [Leviticus 23]. In addition, the seven weekly Sabbaths between Passover and Pentecost were also called SABBATWN [Leviticus 23:16-16].
There were 14 SABBATWN altogether and the singular form is SABBATW [John 19:31].
This is your claim.
Then I'll refrain from comment until your remarks are finished.
Your own source links SABBATWN and SABBATON to Strong's 4521.
While I won't totally preclude the possibility of that being true, there is no evidence in scripture that asserts that. Sunday was the first day of the "Weeks" (First Fruits) and it definately was the day on which he was presented to the Father.
He was crucified late on the 4th day, the eve of Passover, which was the first of two sabbaths in that week (the gospel clearly states that the day was not just a sabbath, but also a "high day") It is more likely that he arose at the end of the regular sabbath (saturday evening by our calendar) and was presented on sunday. That would make the perfect three days and three nights as he stated. We know for certain that there were two sabbaths, and that there was one day between them. (this is from the narratives in the gospels)
He said He would rise ON the third day, not AFTER three perfect days.
The analogy to Jonah is figurative (unless you believe He was buried in the literal heart of the earth--an impossible depth).
If you are therefore able to go to the link it should not be too difficult to see that all the resurrection passages use the word SABBATWN or SABBATW.....not SABBATON. SABBATWN is derived from the word SABBATON but just like "differential" is derived from "different" they have two separate meanings!
A difference with no distinction. The first day of the week is Sunday, the day of Christ’s Resurrection.
I'll bet you scoff at the insidious indoctrination of our children to Satan worship through cartoons too, don't you?
Let’s not even get started on the pernicious evil of dressing a child as Luke Skywalker and touring the neighborhood for greetings and candy.
Hellfire!
These things were not up in the air. Paul taught from Torah, and Tanakh, not from wild ramblings. Most of the "traditions" he refered to were given in the epistles, but some were from Torah and Tanakh, and had been a part of the culture for 1500 years. To most, these would have been heard in the synagogue since childhood, as the scrolls were read. The role of those 'traditions' will be increasing in our lives from now on, because they are the Lord's appointed times, which set the pattern for his events. The rapture will be on the "Feast of Trumpets," (but we do not know which year) which celebrates the completion of the harvest, and his Earthly return to rule will be on the "Feast of Tabernacles," which was also the day of his birth, or first coming; i.e. "he came to Tabernacle with us."
The scripture nowhere supports this statement.
No particular argument. That would make it on the sabbath, as I stated, and fitting nicely with the cutting of the shief by the priest, which was prophetic of the Lord being the first fruits. He would then be presented to the father at the same time that the loaf was presented. It all fits.
The scriptures totally support it, and nothing else. Paul was totally observant. He was a Pharasee’s Pharasee to the hilt, all his life.
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