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To: Lee N. Field
Thanks for the insight, Geerhardus Vos has some good teaching.

So if I got it right those that are alive in Christ don't necessary rest on Sunday or Saturday(which is part of works) but celebrate the peace that Christ brings us in his new creation.

Could we say that while Christ was in the grave he was still doing his work of interceeded for us from a non visible viewpoint, I'm not quite sure what that work would of been from a theological point of view and I'm not sure if I'm entering the territory of heresy, but what I'm thinking right now is that Christ did not not fully rest/or celebrate from his order of salvation until he arose from the grave. The question that comes to my mind trying to grasp the order of salvation is this where does the mediation/intercession fit into the whole scheme. Is it fully finished with the physical death of Christ or is it continualed in heaven right after the death of Christ, what I'm thinking of is that the physical death of Christ on the cross is not the end of of the mediation/intercession but their is more to it that went on right after his death. Am I wash up or on the right track.

Ok lets assume I'm on the right track, basically those that argue worshipping on Saturday are missing a step in their theology. Basically a poor mans theology, simplistic theology that unrelentlessly keeps simplifying their theology till there is nothing left of substance, that the poor uneducated that don't want to think can grasp and be happy with to justify their works of going to Church on Saturday or Sunday, bascially a feel good theology. Ok I'm sure to get flame on that last paragraph.

16 posted on 05/03/2009 7:13:36 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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pinging the GRPL list to see what the reformed think of my rant and rave on #16, and to add or clarify my thinking, is their more to the work of Christ between the physical death of Christ and the Resurrection, is their a step inbetween. Enquiring mind wants to know.
17 posted on 05/03/2009 7:23:21 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: ReformedBeckite
Thanks for the insight, Geerhardus Vos has some good teaching.

And that's about as far as I've gotten in Vos' Biblical Theology as of yet. Easier reading than his Pauline Eschatology though.

I found his exposition of the Decalogue striking.

FWIY Meredith Kline has a different take on the first day assembly, regarding it as an "octave day" assembly, and provides examples of such from the Israelite festival cycle.

Both Israel's Sabbath and the church's ocavized first day lift up the eyes of God's people to the consummation of Har Magedon. The Sabbath points to the consummation as completion, as arrival at the eschatological goal of the original creation. The octave dominical day points to the consummation as commencement, as the launching into the realm of the new creation. Or better, it presages the unending continuance, the everlastingness, of the consummated cosmos. --God, Heaven and Har Magedon, Wipf & Stock, 2006, p. 198.

As with Vos the focus is eschatological.

pinging the GRPL

Not sure how many of those saints are still active, alas. Maybe I'm following the wrong threads.

83 posted on 05/03/2009 11:48:48 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: ReformedBeckite

You’re on the wrong track for sure.


228 posted on 05/03/2009 7:00:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ReformedBeckite; Lee N. Field
Personally, I don't believe it matters when you worship. Theoretically, you should be always “singing praise, psalms and spiritual songs” to God. Going to church on Sunday shouldn't be much different then going to church on Wednesday.

Frankly, I find the “poor and uneducated” usually understands this principle. It's normally those who strive for legalism who don't understand that Christ has set us free from the law that gets wrapped around the axle.

337 posted on 05/05/2009 6:17:15 PM PDT by HarleyD (US-Borrowing money from China to pay for abortions in Mexico)
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