Posted on 05/03/2009 9:53:16 AM PDT by OneVike
It has been the aim of the Democrat party since they lost the Presidential election in 2004 to subvert the Christian doctrine with the claim that Jesus was a socialist. Their goal is to convince Christians that their Social agenda is morally equivalent with the teachings and life of Jesus Christ. Considering the lack of historical and Biblical knowledge most Americans have, it is not surprising that many have fallen for the misinformation on what Jesus taught (and for whom the teachings were given). These Biblical revisionists have become especially adept at cherry picking Scripture to suit their agenda. Hence, many have come to misunderstand the gospel of Christ by equating it with modern day Socialism.
My first point of contention with the idea that Christ was a socialist, is His teachings and the example of His life. Throughout the time that Christ lived with His disciples, He never worked. Instead he was dependent upon the charity and good hearts of those who surrounded Him. Now that is not to say Jesus was lazy or a bum either. Jesus was always about His Fathers business, and that business was the salvation of mankind. Nowhere in the Scriptures will you find Jesus telling His followers to rely upon anyone except those who were willing to hear the gospel and share what they had. If the people refused to hear the gospel or be charitable, Jesus told His disciples to rebuke them and go to others who were willing to hear the teachings, as when He sent them out by pairs. (Matthew chapter 10)
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I cant believe how dumb people are.
Jesus said that the CHURCH should be the head of all things
NOT the State
When people brought all their belongings in to live as common, they brought their goods to the Apostles, NOT the Romans
This isn’t a new effort, they’ve been creeping up through the main denominations for decades.
I will say this again:
If Jesus returned right now, he wouldn’t go anyplace NEAR Washington, DC.
Very few Priests know anything about economics, and even less about Subsidiarity, though the concept IS in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Very few people understand the doctrine of Subsidiarity, but Socialism is CONTRARY to Christianity.
Christians are to differentiate themselves from the world (others, different from then, unsaved), put a wall around themselves, come out from among them, and preach/teach them into heaven, salvation
None of which was ever really questioned nor hated (on as mass a scale as witnesed today) until more recent times.
We're supposed to love our enemies (not kiss them), but make the academic, intellectual decision to accept them as God's creation but not necesarilly His children.
I disagree. Let's examine the facts of just WHO Jesus hung around with when he was here:
The "un-righteous"
The sinners
The weak/sick/infirmed
And lest we forget he forgave prostitutes, adulterers, the tax collectors, murderers and more.
I happen to think Jesusu would go right to Washington DC. Just look at what a bunch of heathen-bastards are running the place!!
(I post that comment in all seriousness.)
Is any one else gettibng sick and tired of this old crap?
Socialism is a manmade politic system contruct. It is of the world, not of the WORD.
So as it has always been the answer to the silly question is NO.
So the left goes from arguing Jesus didn’t exist, to Jesus wasn’t killing by the Romans, to Jesus wasn’t raised, to Jesus was a socialist.
Cmon stop already my head is spinning.
I disagree. God is a CAPITALIST. There are more references to MONEY in the Bible than anything else including LOVE and FORGIVENESS.
There are more than 1,500 references to wealth and money in the Bible, which is more than double anything else including Love and Forgiveness.
By the way, how else do we know that God is a CAPITALIST? We need to look no further than his Son, Jesus Christ who admonished us to teach men to fish, rather than simply feeding them for a day.
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I”m sorry but you are wrong. You forget the sin against the Holy Ghost, it is unforgiveable. That is Washington DC.
Thanks for the ping!
Early Christians were communal, but with a belief in God, obviously, unlike Communists.
Jesus' admonishment was for men to fish for other men to learn the Gospel and be saved ... some of His disciples were already fishermen of fish ... they needed no training from a carpenter, but they sure needed a few clues from God about spiritual matters.
Have a nice life!
Wasn’t there a man and wife who died instantly when they didn’t give 100% of their money to the Apostles? That’s taxation Democrats would love (not applicable to themselves, of course).
No, Christ would not have approved of socialism in any way shape or form. A system whereby individuals earn their pay and the legal structure fights immorality and abuses would be His preference, I would imagine. One of the 19th century popes, Leo XIII, laid it out beautifully in an encyclical, Rerum Novarum in 1891 (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13rerum.htm). I really wish all Catholics knew this.
“If anything, God is a populist.
I disagree. God is a CAPITALIST. There are more references to MONEY in the Bible than anything else including LOVE and FORGIVENESS.”
There are more than 1,500 references to wealth and money in the Bible, which is more than double anything else including Love and Forgiveness.
By the way, how else do we know that God is a CAPITALIST? We need to look no further than his Son, Jesus Christ who admonished us to teach men to fish, rather than simply feeding them for a day.”
So you say he’s a Capitalist by virtue of what Jesus Christ said? Well, how about the Sermon on the Mount? “Woe unto you who are rich...”. Uh, that sounds more like a class envious redistributionist - excatly like Obama! LOL LOL LOL.
Religion is NOT Capitalistic, period. Religions do not encourage Individualism - it requires subserviance to God. And in this case “God” is manifested in any Religions hierarchy: a Pope, An Elder, A Pastor, or an Ayatollah - all of whom claim to speak for God. It requires altruism from all of us, only instead of sacrificng to The State Moral Code of Collectivism, we’re instead told to sacrifice to A Religious Moral Code of Collectivism. Religion, should anyone choose to follow it, is free to do so personally. But it should have no bearing or relevance as a guide to morality of an entire cultrue. The minute Religion starts attempting to shape political agendas - like abortion policy, where or whether the Ten Commandments need to be placed, or trying to outlaw gay marriage (or homosexuality as such), then there is substantively no difference between The Church’s Dictates and The State’s Dictates. Instead of arguing of whether a Master is to be served, Political Conservatives argue over WHICH Master to serve. But in neither case is Individual Freedom upheld as the Highest Moral Standard.
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