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Contempt for Their Bishops (Catholic universities ignoring their bishops)
ncr ^ | May 20, 2009 | Tom McFeely

Posted on 05/21/2009 10:39:46 AM PDT by NYer

Fordham University seal

Here’s what Fordham said to the New York Post about its honoring of pro-abortion Mayor Michael Bloomberg at its undergraduate commencement ceremony and its refusal to advise Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York about its actions:

Fordham said the fact that “it hosts speakers . . . across the political spectrum points to a vibrant culture of engagement with the real world, rather than an insufficiency of Catholic teaching.”

It added, “The quality of a Catholic education at the university can’t be measured by trying to parse the positions of speakers or honorees in relation to Church teachings.”

These comments can only be construed as contemptuous of the opinions and authority of the U.S. bishops, who in their 2004 document “Catholics in Political Life” stated, “The Catholic community and Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles. They should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.”

Fordham’s actions were equally contemptuous of Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York. As we noted in today’s first Daily Blog entry about Fordham’s scandalous commencement ceremony, last weekend’s honoring of Bloomberg contradicted the understanding Cardinal Edward Egan thought he had reached with the Jesuit university only a few months ago: that it would not confer such honors without discussing its actions beforehand with its archbishop.

And Fordham’s honoring of Bloomberg is made even more dismissive of the bishops’ authority by the fact that it occurred one day before the University of Notre Dame honored pro-abortion President Barack Obama at its own commencement. Given that more than 80 U.S. bishops have publicly denounced Notre Dame’s decision as scandalous, it’s not as though Fordham’s administration had the slightest misconception about how its actions would be viewed.

But as in the case of Notre Dame — which has been equally contemptuous of its own local bishop, Bishop John D’Arcy of Fort Wayne-South Bend, Ind. — Fordham isn’t slightly apologetic about what it has done.

In both cases, Fordham and Notre Dame have declared in the bluntest terms possible that they, and not the American bishops, are the arbiters of what is acceptable conduct for an institution that calls itself a Catholic university. And as a consequence, the administrations of both colleges don’t appear amenable even to any self-examination of their actions, let alone to any correction undertaken by the Church hierarchy.

This attitude comes as confirmation of the gloomy assessment of one American archbishop, who privately told Russell Shaw that he sees little likelihood the controversy over Notre Dame will prompt a change of heart among America’s Catholic universities.

Shaw recounts the archbishop’s comments in a May 18 entry at OSV’s Daily Take blog:

Ten days before the May 17 Notre Dame University commencement at which President Barack Obama was to speak and receive an honorary degree, I told an archbishop who’s a friend that I thought this was a watershed. One reason for that, I explained, lay in the remarkably large number of individual bishops — approaching 80 as this is written — who took the initiative to speak up in protest against Notre Dame’s bestowal of honors upon our aggressively pro-abortion chief executive.

The archbishop smiled sadly and shook his head. “Six months from now it will all be forgotten, and everything will be business as usual,” he said. It was clear that by “business as usual” he wasn’t suggesting that the state of American Catholicism had been all that good before the Notre Dame-Obama flap.

Shaw is a bit less gloomy than his friend the archbishop. He suggests progress is possible, in terms of restoring Catholic identity on Catholic campuses, if the necessary lessons are drawn from the Notre Dame fiasco. According to Shaw, who is a former spokesman for the U.S. bishops’ conference, those lessons are that American Catholics are deeply divided; that Catholic colleges must accept accountability to the bishops if they want to claim an authentic Catholic identity; and that the bishops must act vigorously to defend Catholic identity vigorously when it is undermined by the actions of individual colleges.

Concluded Shaw, “If these lessons are learned, the Notre Dame controversy may do some good. But if my friend the archbishop is right in predicting business as usual within six months, the future of Catholic identity in higher education and other areas of the Church’s infrastructure isn’t bright. How very sad if it turns out like that.”

TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: fordham; ndu; trinity

1 posted on 05/21/2009 10:39:47 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Alumni will respond to these defiant administrators by witholding donations and many Catholic families will scratch these colleges and universities from the list of schools under consideration for their children.

2 posted on 05/21/2009 10:41:41 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

A comment I read somewhere - a blog, I believe - made the observation that the “Catholic” universities (the liberal ones) are defying the bishops because they regard themselves and the academy as defining a kind of alternate Magisterium for the Church. Sadly, it seems like a large number of Catholics are willing to follow them.

3 posted on 05/21/2009 10:45:52 AM PDT by livius
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4 posted on 05/21/2009 10:53:22 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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It is WAY past time to yank the Catholic status from these institutions They are doing much more harm than good to the young Catholics in their charge.

5 posted on 05/21/2009 10:58:15 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: NYer
Catholic universities ignoring their bishops

I submit it's the other way around ... Bishops ignoring (thru real actions) catholic universities.

Just like bishops calling "priest shortage", where in fact it is "parishioner shortage". Conniving bunch of spineless companymen, most of them.

6 posted on 05/21/2009 11:16:14 AM PDT by m4629
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There is a shortage of priests....faithful ones.

7 posted on 05/21/2009 11:21:44 AM PDT by wombtotomb
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There is a shortage of priests....faithful ones.

I respectfully disagree. There is no shortage of priests, but there is an "artificial shortage of priests". Read the book "goodbye, good men" by Michael Rose? Faithful bishops have no shortage of priests, such as diocese of Lincoln, NE.

8 posted on 05/21/2009 11:29:39 AM PDT by m4629
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It is time for the Vatican to send the religious orders to educate the educators. The church has no responsibility to support or fund those that despise and hate it.

9 posted on 05/21/2009 11:55:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: m4629

I will read your suggested book. I however do believe while there are not a lack of bodies in the priesthood, there is a lack of those willing to stand up, and remain faithful. 3/4s of the bishops have been too silent too long, and I can only recall a few priests who have been vocal about abortion and other abuses that have been going on for far too long. I believe that good men saying nothing has been going on far too long. I do believe the up and coming priests in seminary now are going to change that. They seem to be a faithful, devout bunch.

I am sending one to seminary minor next year with a vocation to the priesthood, with another one considering some form of religious life ( so far considering becoming a deacon or right to life ministry, but has not ruled out the priesthood either). From what they tell me, seminarians that are there are a fiercely traditional bunch. I cannot wait until they are ordained and sent forth!

10 posted on 05/21/2009 12:20:17 PM PDT by wombtotomb
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You are right in that there are few priests who are vocal.

My premise of quoting the book is that prospective seminarians of traditional value (good men) is being deliberately driven away or denied entry by the modernist subservive flunky nuns/priests, hence there is the ARTIFICIAL priesthood shortage. I have known about certain seminarians in modern seminaries just to appear to go along with their inclusive/diversified/tolerant/socialistic programs in order to get thru and be ordained, then set out to do the real work of faithful priest under the radar of modernist bishops.

In short, the majority of dioceses have so called “gatekeepers” to keep the young traditional men out of the priesthood, while making it easy for the homos and their sympathizers to get thru seminaries and become “fairy nice guys priests”.

11 posted on 05/21/2009 2:54:12 PM PDT by m4629
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On this we will agree. It is an excellent point and well taken. I hope these boys light up the church like the fourth of july as the old ones die off.......

12 posted on 05/21/2009 3:58:45 PM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: Antoninus
Cardinal Egan had no trouble expelling Marymount Manhattan from the Archdiocese of New York Catholic Directory.

Cardinal Egan very publicly announced that Marymount Manhattan was Catholic no more...

The same should be done with Fordham -- ASAP...

13 posted on 05/21/2009 6:43:57 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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