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Beekeepers: Something Is Wrong
Rapturealert.com ^ | 5/27/2009 | Michael G. Mickey

Posted on 05/27/2009 5:03:33 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

On a number of occasions in the past I have documented the disappearing act our honeybees are performing, commonly referred to as colony collapse disorder, and the impact it may have in relation to bible prophecy. It's time to revisit that issue.

I've heard it said that one of out of every three bites of food we eat in a day exists because of honey bees. If that's correct, we have a lot to be concerned about where the survival of the honeybee is concerned and beekeepers are sounding the alarm once again. Something is wrong, they're telling us.

The Future of Earth's Food Supply

As we look into the prophetic future, particularly inside the Tribulation Period, it is clear that the world's food supply is going to become scarce.

Revelation 6:5-6: And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Walvoord states the passage above (and below) describes “a time of famine when life will be reduced to the barest necessities.”

Revelation 6:7-8: When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

Current and recent events of interest

Will colony collapse disorder play any role in the fulfillment of bible prophecy? I don't know, but it well could if God doesn't intervene, especially when we take into consideration the fact no one but God seems to know why so many of our bees are dying.

Matthew 24:7: For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

The end times drama continues...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: agriculture; bees; environment; honeybees; ohnoes
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1 posted on 05/27/2009 5:03:33 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

They have found the problem.


2 posted on 05/27/2009 5:07:12 PM PDT by golfisnr1
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Interestingly enough a large swarm of honey bees temporarily shutdown an business in NYC this weekend when they swarmed near the entrance. I thought this odd giving the disappearance of so many over the past few years. Could they be making a comeback?


3 posted on 05/27/2009 5:08:32 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Has anybody checked in “Galt’s Gulch?”

Mark


4 posted on 05/27/2009 5:09:17 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: golfisnr1

Shhhh.....

Don’t ruin a good panic!


5 posted on 05/27/2009 5:09:25 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
I was a beekeeper as a kid.

I bought it from the Sears catalog.

I had to be the only beekeeper in the City of Detroit. It was great, until a horrible winter killed them all after 4 years.

I really hope they find out what the hell is going on here, 60% of our crops depend on it.

6 posted on 05/27/2009 5:09:31 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Man50D

I’m seeing honeybees and there seems to be a population explosion of the big ole bumble bees.


7 posted on 05/27/2009 5:09:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Perhaps. Also, a virus found in healthy Australian honey bees may be playing a role in the collapse of honey bee colonies across the United States. The virus identified in the healthy Australian bees was discovered by Hebrew University researchers. Although worker bees in colony collapse disorder vanish, bees infected with IAPV die close to the hive, after developing shivering wings and paralysis. The Australian bees seem to be resistant to the virus. Scientists discovered that the was present in bees that had come from colony collapse disorder hives 96 percent of the time.


8 posted on 05/27/2009 5:10:29 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Honeybees don't just make honey; they pollinate more than 90 of the tastiest flowering crops we have. Among them: apples, nuts, avocados, soybeans, asparagus, broccoli, celery, squash and cucumbers. And lots of the really sweet and tart stuff, too, including citrus fruit, peaches, kiwi, cherries, blueberries, cranberries, strawberries, cantaloupe and other melons.

Breakfast for me this morning was fresh cantaloupe. It makes you think, doesn't it?

It makes me think this is truly a job Americans won't do.

This is a legitimate way to get the illegal alien landscape and drywall contractors out of the industries and into a specified allowable trade for "migrant workers"...pollinating crops.

9 posted on 05/27/2009 5:10:59 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: golfisnr1
They have found the problem.

Really? I read it was a new insecticide. What is causing this?

10 posted on 05/27/2009 5:12:06 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: golfisnr1
Excellent!

Now that they found the problem, they can fix it!

11 posted on 05/27/2009 5:12:38 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

We’ve had stories about swarms a couple of times this year. I see bees too. They chase me quite often. I hate that!

How in heck does any of that relate to Biblical prophesy? Oy.


12 posted on 05/27/2009 5:12:42 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: Man50D
Could they be making a comeback?

Let's hope so. We can't live without them!

13 posted on 05/27/2009 5:13:34 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

My daughter told me today (my little 7 year old insectologist or whatever they are called) that Lady Bugs are dissapearing and “Scientists don’t know why”.


14 posted on 05/27/2009 5:13:55 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: La Lydia

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/04/bee-colony-collapse-disorder-potential-cause-and-cure-discovered.php

Anamnesis, clinical examination and analyses support that the depopulation in both cases was due to the infection by Nosema ceranae (Microsporidia), an emerging pathogen of Apis mellifera. No other significant pathogens or pesticides (neonicotinoids) were detected and the bees had not been foraging in corn or sunflower crops. The treatment with fumagillin avoided the loss of surviving weak colonies. This is the first case report of honeybee colony collapse due to N. ceranae in professional apiaries in field conditions reported worldwide.
At the end is the good news. Treatment with fumagillin saved the colonies.


15 posted on 05/27/2009 5:14:30 PM PDT by golfisnr1
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To: ExpatGator

Oh my gosh! Is someone panicking? Let’s get them some help!


16 posted on 05/27/2009 5:14:33 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
wow. did you hear about the bees on 14th Street last weekend?! wow.

sometimes it just be's that way.

17 posted on 05/27/2009 5:15:33 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: cripplecreek
I’m seeing honeybees and there seems to be a population explosion of the big ole bumble bees.

With more people planting gardens the bumblebee population would go up especially with the (temporary) decline of the honey bee population.

Prior to 1492 honey bees were unknown to the Americas and yet somehow crops managed to grow just fine. The bumblebees and some flies took care of the pollinating. Nature has a lot of redundancies. If one thing fails something else moves in to take it's place.

18 posted on 05/27/2009 5:16:12 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: Mikey_1962
I really hope they find out what the hell is going on here, 60% of our crops depend on it.

Well, apparently the problem has been found and hopefully those who know how to fix these things will do so.

19 posted on 05/27/2009 5:16:13 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: cripplecreek
I’m seeing honeybees and there seems to be a population explosion of the big ole bumble bees.

You are deliberately trying to suck the doom out of this thread. Stop it.
20 posted on 05/27/2009 5:16:17 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: cripplecreek

I also am seeing honeybees this year, more than in previous years.

And, interestingly, they are bigger. Usually, they would come in about the size of a horsefly. Now, they are 1/2 to 2/3 s the size of the bumblebees that live in the neighborhood. (and I have alot of those too.)


21 posted on 05/27/2009 5:16:34 PM PDT by djf (Anyone can have a computer. Anyone can have a biog. Some should have neither.)
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To: La Lydia

Do you know if there is a way to cure the bees of the virus?


22 posted on 05/27/2009 5:17:20 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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23 posted on 05/27/2009 5:17:22 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

There are something like 30 different native species of bees in North America.


24 posted on 05/27/2009 5:18:37 PM PDT by djf (Anyone can have a computer. Anyone can have a biog. Some should have neither.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Let’s send the illegals back to where they came from and have American welfare recipients pollinate our crops.


25 posted on 05/27/2009 5:18:51 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Is someone panicking?

Yeah. And apparently it is you.

GiovannaNicoletta in post #13 "We can't live without them!"

Yes, we can.

26 posted on 05/27/2009 5:20:48 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Nature has a lot of redundancies. If one thing fails something else moves in to take it's place.

With the decline of the honeybees, native pollinators are experiencing boom times.

27 posted on 05/27/2009 5:21:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: ReneeLynn
I think the point is is that if it is bees that pollinate the crops, thereby causing them to grow, and there is something that is causing the bees to die, and there is no way to pollinate the crops, then there will be much fewer fruits and vegetables and many people will experience famine.

That is the prophecy connection.

28 posted on 05/27/2009 5:21:54 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: golfisnr1

What is it?


29 posted on 05/27/2009 5:21:57 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: djf
Yep. But the honey bee is an import.

In fact it was known as "The White Man's Fly" and was generally found staring about 100 miles west of European settled areas.

30 posted on 05/27/2009 5:23:16 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: ReneeLynn
Oy.

You took the word right out of my mouth.

31 posted on 05/27/2009 5:23:44 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Let’s send the illegals back to where they came from and have American welfare recipients pollinate our crops.

Good idea. And make them use their current freeshiite cards to buy their own damn Q-tips.
32 posted on 05/27/2009 5:24:01 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: ZX12R
You are deliberately trying to suck the doom out of this thread. Stop it.

I'm sorry. I should have added that the bumblebees I'm seeing are armor plated and as big as watermelons. Also they carry a neurotoxic venom that kills in seconds.
33 posted on 05/27/2009 5:24:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: ZX12R
What doom?

If it was the same article but made no mention of the Bible-if it was just the scientific aspects of the issue- would it still be "doom"?

34 posted on 05/27/2009 5:24:46 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Obviously God is trying to prevent this famine you mention. Thanks for your concern, however.


35 posted on 05/27/2009 5:25:18 PM PDT by Misterioso
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Let’s send the illegals back to where they came from

Yeah!

...and have American welfare recipients pollinate our crops.

Yes, instead of each other.

36 posted on 05/27/2009 5:26:00 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ZX12R
You are deliberately trying to suck the doom out of this thread. Stop it.

Doom? I thought it was panic? Now I'm confused.
37 posted on 05/27/2009 5:28:08 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Yeah. And apparently it is you.

Wow. Someone posts an article and immediately you are a mind reader.

FYI, this isn't the first time I have heard or read that we can't live without bees pollinating crops. I didn't "panic" when I heard about it the first time and I'm not panicking now.

Nice try at marginalization though.

38 posted on 05/27/2009 5:30:29 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: Misterioso
That's fantastic!

I'll look forward to hearing on the news that the problem is over.

I'm sure they'll give God the credit for fixing it,too.

39 posted on 05/27/2009 5:32:54 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Do you know if there is a way to cure the bees of the virus?

I think you have to give them a Bee I.V.

40 posted on 05/27/2009 5:33:04 PM PDT by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foriegn policy advisor. He's really quite good!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
What doom?

Would you settle for gloomy? How about something less than rosy?
41 posted on 05/27/2009 5:33:08 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: TnGOP
I think you have to give them a Bee I.V.

Bee CPR would probably have saved many of the dying.
42 posted on 05/27/2009 5:35:06 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

It is my understanding that they are trying to figure out how to breed the Australian bees’ resistance into domestic bees where the colony collapse is occurring. It don’t know how that could “cure” something endemic like that, but they apparently think they are close to a way of dealing with it so we don’t all starve.


43 posted on 05/27/2009 5:35:11 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: golfisnr1

Excellent.


44 posted on 05/27/2009 5:36:34 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: ZX12R
To be honest, I really didn't see it that way.

I saw it as someone who wrote an article, based on what he had read in various publications, and, as a Christian, saw a possible link to the Biblical prophecy of famine.

I've read stuff a lot gloomier than this.

45 posted on 05/27/2009 5:37:48 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Maybe they just joined a Union and they are on break! Bail out the Bees Barak!


46 posted on 05/27/2009 5:39:21 PM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I still don’t see it. There are bees.


47 posted on 05/27/2009 5:39:23 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: cripplecreek
I've got bumblebees pollinating my garden, no worker bees yet.
I think the ants are pollinating my pumpkins LOL.
48 posted on 05/27/2009 5:43:05 PM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: ReneeLynn
Well, evidently at some point the bees were dying in droves- enough to cause some real concern with many people who make it their business to know these things and keep up with the bee populatiton.

I read about this for the first time at least two years ago so it's not a recent phenomenon.

And, apparently there is a need for bees to pollinate crops to keep them growing and reproducing and if there is a huge bee die-off, then conceivably that could result in a famine.

49 posted on 05/27/2009 5:46:50 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (I')
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I’m completely aware of what bees do for our food crops, however I do not see the need for the author to quote the Bible and imply that this is an end times sign. I think it’s one of the silliest things I’ve ever read.


50 posted on 05/27/2009 5:49:42 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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