Posted on 06/03/2009 7:26:03 PM PDT by fgoodwin
When I think of a church that could house a Hillary Clinton, my mind runs more to Molech, or Astarte, or Baal.
There was some speculation, back during the Clinton regime, that Hillary had some occultic connection. Pretty far out there, IMHO. Tinfoilhattery. Oh, yeah, here we go: HILLARY CLINTON WEARS NEW LAPEL PIN THAT ABSOLUTELY PROVES SHE IS AN ILLUMINIST.
That’s not fair. I wasn’t even wearing my tin foil hat or running around in my masonic apron before the great owl in the forest when I wrote that.
They just can’t get it through their heads that people don’t go to church because it’s *trendy*.
That people don’t go to a church because it looks like a spaceship.
That people won’t like a sermon better if the “clergyperson” is dressed like Elvis.
That people don’t want a Bible that calls God “She”, is “Afro-centric” written in the vernacular, poorly, tries to ingratiate with moral relativism, suggests that Jesus was “gay, and that’s okay”, and otherwise looks like it was written by a sarcastic atheist.
Nor do people like hymnals that 40 years ago were pop songs, and bubblegum ones at that, lyrics unchanged. Why should that matter?
“The megachurches have swapped the Christian gospel for feel-good socializing and whatever sells.”
Please don’t put all eggs in the saddleback basket
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“that the number of true Christians in the world would always be a small minority”
Lets assume (and I know this is incorrect) that each and every person in a ‘mega chuch’ is saved (thats 8M people)
2% of the US population
and a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the world population..
Yes in most, if not all, churches there is a ton of chaff but to assume any church with numbers is (1) putting them ahead of God or (2) not preaching the gospel is specious.
I wasn't impressed with that statement until I got to the "50 people" part. Our (also non-denom) church couldn't handle 50 people baptized in any reasonable amount of time. We have been baptizing at least 2-3 per week, lately.
I'm guessing that crowd was done in a "muddy water" baptism? Up here in Michigan, open air baptisms are not extremely popular. For at least one month per year, you had better bring chain saws, and a lot of the rest of the year it is still a little cold to expect anyone to get wet outside.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2264321/posts?page=35#35
In saying “our” Catholic Church, I was referring to my local Catholic Church — not all the Roman Catholic Churches of the U. S.
Many are bursting at the seams like ours is, because the Gospel is being preached and people are being called to accountability for their sins.
I have heard it said that the two things that distinguish a “Good” Catholic Church — are
1. The length of the lines at the Confessional
2. The number of vocations to the priesthood and religious life from one’s parish.
Our church was absolutely packed at the first one above during the Easter Reconciliation Service. Seven priests’ jaws dropped in amazement as they behold the number of repentants seeking Confession.
We have a couple of live ones on the vocation path, too. One attended Mount Angel Prep at the Seminary last year and is finishing his Associate degree this year at the local Community College.
Oops
they beheld the number of repentants seeking Confession.
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Speak the truth in love. Eph 4:15
What would Jesus say?
"Peter, feed my sheep. And remember always, sheep do not like astro-turf."
The Lutheran Church's new branding campaign, called "God's Work, Our Hands," spotlights a church soup kitchen in North Dakota and a mission in Senegal that teaches women business skills.
Lutheran Ping!
Veni, Sanctae Spiritus!
The article states that many Lutheran churches have been updating their songs, but I prefer older songs. I agree with this joke, from www.lutheransonline.com, “You might be a Lutheran if you think that a new song is any song that was written after 1900.”
Churches would probably increase membership, if they preach the Bible, including the parts about abortion and homosexuality.
The Orthodox Church - standing room only for every service.
The Orthodox Church - Proclaiming Truth Since 33 AD.
Same as it ever was, unyielding to fads. Now and ever and unto ages of ages.
www.gettoknowtheoriginal.net
Yet the crowds that followed Jesus were numbered in the mul;tiple-thousands. Those converted on Pentecost were numbered in the thousands.
Neither Jesus or Peter scattered them to indulge in a "lonely" worship.
I like it.
In the Orthodox Church we refer to one of our teachers as "St. Simeon, the New Theologian." He lived around 1000 AD.
Oh, and how many Orthodox Christians does it take to change a light bulb?
Change? What is this "Change"?
God calls people and they come in droves, but Jesus also spent very serious conversation time with the Father alone. He’s my Dad and I will always appreciate our alone time.
You might want to note that the “god’s work, our hands” motto is of the ELCA church, and doesn’t have anything to do with Lutheranism.
I think the main issue is that people don’t want to feel any moral restrictions on their sexual activity. Thus traditional churches who believe that there is such a thing as sin and proper behavior turn off those who don’t want to hear that. Those churches that embrace the modern view that anything goes and that there is no sin are losing members because, if there is no sin and no standards of behavior, why go to church on Sunday morning?
I prefer the hits of the 1500’s myself.;-)
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