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Obama's "Catholic Plan"
You Tube ^ | Michael Voris

Posted on 06/12/2009 10:29:23 AM PDT by NYer

Don't know how to post YouTube images. Here is the Link.


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; obama; voris

1 posted on 06/12/2009 10:29:23 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/12/2009 10:29:51 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Good video.


3 posted on 06/12/2009 10:36:02 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

I could not have said it better.


4 posted on 06/12/2009 10:36:28 AM PDT by mom-7
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To: NYer

Michael is regularly at our parish.
He has wonderful insight!
(but he needs to do something with his hair.)


5 posted on 06/12/2009 10:37:30 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: NYer

Very good, well done. Succinct and to the point.

I’d like to see more of this presenter.


6 posted on 06/12/2009 10:42:05 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: NYer

bump to view at home.


7 posted on 06/12/2009 10:43:00 AM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: NYer
Here is where the funding comes from as he correctly pointed out. Evil Soros!
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8 posted on 06/12/2009 10:52:33 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: NYer

Very good and very correct!


9 posted on 06/12/2009 11:17:42 AM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer
This was the main reason for the hubbub in Boston when the priest abuse scandal broke. The priests should have been hauled off to jail many years ago, but they weren't for many reasons. For one, the Church was being protective, in a mistaken notion that they were being 'pastoral' by sending the men to treatment, even though that was the accepted practice in the 70s and 80s for priests with sexual proclivities. Another reason was that parents didn't want to bring charges, because they wanted to protect their sons from the media firestorm that would result. And finally, at least two of the priests involved, Geoghan and Shanley, were big supporters of Democrats in MA, and the District Attorneys chose not to bring charges.

In all of the ink spilled, it seems to have been forgotten that there was a de-frocked priest, William Porter, who was sitting in jail on just such charges, so the idea that the Church didn't turn abusers over to the authorities was just bunk.

The timing of the stories was just too convenient for my taste. Yes, those men should have been sent to jail, though, in somes cases, the statute of limitations had expired, so they couldn't be prosecuted. But there was always more heat than light in these stories, because there weren't that many priests involved in abuse of kids, though ALL priests suffered under the innuendo and outright hatred sent their way.

To me, it wasn't a coincidence that this all broke just about the time that the Supreme Judicial Court sent down their fiat allowing homosexual marriage in the Commonwealth. The activists who were pushing this issue knew that the Catholic Church would be a very powerful opponent, so they did all they could to diminish her authority in ANY moral matter, by painting the whole Church with the pedophile brush. They worked hard to run Cardinal Law out of town, never admitting the fact that it was HE who had directed the changes in the Chancery that made unlikely the possibility of that kind of abuse ever occuring again. Almost ALL of the abuse happened before Cardinal Law ever arrived in Boston, but he was there when the shiite hit the fan, so he accepted responsibility for it.

What's interesting is that the homosexual marriage activists thought they'd scored a home run when Sean O'Malley was named Archbishop. I think they looked at his brown Fransiscan robes and his sandals, and thought they had a pushover. He turned out to be just as strong against the issue as Cardinal Law, but unfortunately, the media had done their job and the constant negativity against the Church had turned many MA Catholics against the Church. Even though they continued to attend Mass, they tuned out anything the Bishops had to say. That's one reason why so many MA Catholics didn't have a problem voting for Obama, and why they don't see any problem returning folks like Kennedy, Kerry, and the MA Congressmen to their offices time and time again.

10 posted on 06/12/2009 12:02:51 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Very interesting post, thank you.


11 posted on 06/12/2009 12:15:08 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: SuziQ

Good analysis.


12 posted on 06/12/2009 1:25:10 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

Excellent commentary. I like this guy...he’s saying exactly what I’m thinking Obama’s paln is for the Church.


13 posted on 06/12/2009 3:22:14 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: SuziQ

Thank you for posting such an excellent analysis. We’re in for a rough ride. Pope Benedict addressed this early on in his pontificate when he said the Church needed to shrink. Like the parable of the sheep and goats, we will soon be asked to choose sides.


14 posted on 06/12/2009 3:44:57 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Bump for later when the neighbors aren’t outside using weed whackers and I can actually hear what he has to say.


15 posted on 06/12/2009 5:21:14 PM PDT by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue. http://www.thekingsmen.us/)
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To: NYer

I believe we will be asked to choose sides soon too. The Catholic faith is a hard, exacting faith. We are asked nothing less than complete obedience to Christ’s word, sacred tradition, and inspired new insight.

It isn’t a church for wimps. A lot of winnowing out is going to happen and I feel for our young people in America who did not receive proper teaching about the Catholic faith. They are also hampered by the unfortunate baby boomer priests who often aren’t very priestly. Feminist nuns also abound, but if you look carefully you will see a new generation of real Catholics.

We will be fewer, but we will be staunch. I think the scandals had to happen to cause cradle Catholics and converts to really examine the Church’s teachings and make a conscious decision to be part of the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. We now participate with eyes wide open.

The Old Testament was the age of the Father. The New Testament was the age of the Son. Our times are the age of the Holy Spirit and we must, as individuals, “Choose life” as Moses said.


16 posted on 06/12/2009 5:56:27 PM PDT by Melian ("Now, Y'all without sin can cast the first stone." ~H.I. McDunnough)
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To: Melian

**I believe we will be asked to choose sides soon too. The Catholic faith is a hard, exacting faith. We are asked nothing less than complete obedience to Christ’s word, sacred tradition, and inspired new insight.**

I agree completely!


17 posted on 06/12/2009 6:25:21 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer

Oooh! Red Meat! Don’t they just hate it when we make their supposedly-secret plans common knowledge? Thank God for the Watchmen on the walls.


18 posted on 06/12/2009 6:31:54 PM PDT by redhead (Keep talking, Sarah. You're driving them NUTS!)
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To: NYer

I’m still on dial up so am listening to the broken up youtube presentation.

It sounds excellent.

We need to keep bumping this thread.

Does anyone know if there is a Michael Voris Ping list?


19 posted on 06/12/2009 6:49:19 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer; annalex; wagglebee; lightman; topher; xzins; Huber; Alex Murphy; STARWISE; pissant; ...

All Christians — listen to this!

You may not agree with the Catholic Church on everything, but I’ll be this is one thing that you do agree with.

Stand firm with The CATHOLIC CHURCH against Obama’s socialism.

Please ping your lists! I know I have forgotten a couple of names there. Will try to find them.


20 posted on 06/12/2009 7:04:34 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation

**but I’ll bet this is one thing that you do agree with.


21 posted on 06/12/2009 7:05:43 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: scripter; Kolokotronis; Petronski; Charles Henrickson; markomalley; cpforlife.org; narses; ...

Another ping. If you have a list, please ping it.


22 posted on 06/12/2009 7:16:18 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: pgkdan

And not just the Catholic church, but any true evangelical Christian church that speaks out against abortion, gay marriage and other sinful practices. We need to stand together on this issue, even if we don’t agree on others.


23 posted on 06/12/2009 7:19:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Salvation

thanks, bfl


24 posted on 06/12/2009 7:28:49 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Marysecretary

You are absolutely right. We “Must” stand together against Obama and his socialism agenda.


25 posted on 06/12/2009 7:32:29 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Jim Robinson

A ping to you. Stand against Obama!


26 posted on 06/12/2009 7:34:03 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYer

Obama needs only some Catholics for an Obama politico
majority.

Obama knows that he has three Supreme Court
nominations in his pocket. His first will be a
Catholic (non-practicing) who will stun his critics and
sway some Catholics when she declares herself pro-life.
Obama will gain a portion of the Catholic pro-life vote.

Before his first Supreme Court appointee can be a
deciding vote, Obama will have two more justices
appointments. Both will be pro-choice.

No change in the abortion politics. Pro-choice reigns.

But Obama will have gained following of a portion of the
Catholic vote for his other agenda items. He will have
culled off the needed “Catholic” vote.


27 posted on 06/12/2009 7:37:15 PM PDT by AncientAirs
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To: NYer
Notre Dame was Saul Alinsky at his best. ( Marginalize and neutralize the Catholic opposition.)
28 posted on 06/12/2009 7:40:15 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: NYer; All
RealCatholicTV.com
29 posted on 06/12/2009 9:31:03 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; Victoria Delsoul; Tax-chick; netmilsmom
Excellent job.

Something is happening in our local parish. I don't know what the plan is yet, but I do know it presents a change in theology. I am suspect that it may becoming more orthodox in its approach.

I am waiting to see what is going to take place.

30 posted on 06/13/2009 4:39:34 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Salvation
just made the switch to hi speed internet ... well worth the extra cost.

You're right about Obama's socialism program. Did you watch EWTN's The World Over Live last night? That was one of the topics discussed. Excellent program.

31 posted on 06/13/2009 5:25:20 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: Melian; kosta50; MarkBsnr
“It isn’t a church for wimps.”

Really? Why is it then that your bishops are in the forefront of bringing Mohammedan Somalis into our communities and when the Refugee Resettlement money runs out, hand the bill to support these leeches to the taxpayers? Why aren't you people paying for your bishops’ social engineering? If Roman Catholicism is so tough, stand up and take responsibility for what those mitred heads have done. Why is it that the quality of the theology preached by some of your dimwit bishops, like Chaput the Simple, has to be soooooo nice that it excuses heretics like Arius as being a gifted priest with a brilliant mind? That sort of limpwristed, sissified kumbayaism has done and will do more to damage The Church in America than the passing politics of an Obama. I know many on these threads think Obama is the anti-Christ, but the fact is that The Church has survived and is surviving far more vicious oppression than anything the present administration can do.

On the other hand, if you Latins continue to lionize right wing, heretic embracing simpletons like Chaput and destroy whatever credibility you have with your pass the buck Islamization of American communities, your Western brand of The Church may well not survive the attacks of a comparative pipsqueak like Obama.

32 posted on 06/13/2009 5:25:34 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Melian; NYer; MarkBsnr
It isn’t a church for wimps

I will believe it when I see some teeth.

33 posted on 06/13/2009 8:09:36 AM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: Melian

***We will be fewer, but we will be staunch. ***

Correction. If we are staunch, we will eventually encompass all those who would be Christian.

***A lot of winnowing out is going to happen and I feel for our young people in America who did not receive proper teaching about the Catholic faith. They are also hampered by the unfortunate baby boomer priests who often aren’t very priestly.***

The new priests emerging from the seminaries are as orthodox as those from a century ago. The baby boomers, coincident with Vatican II nearly sunk the Church in America; it took a leader such as JPII followed up by BXVI to reverse the direction; it was as significant as, say, the Apostle Paul rescuing the Church from oblivion.

***We now participate with eyes wide open.***

Proper catechization is the first step. Otherwise, we will be as vulnerable as ever to any faith of men that wanders in the door or transmits to our televisions.


34 posted on 06/13/2009 9:12:15 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: NYer; All
I can't view this video, and frankly, would prefer to read whatever is said rather than watch it (in a nutshell, the whole "image culture" thing).

However, About 1 in 4 1/2 Americans is Catholic -- 22%.

That explains why politicians have them in their sites.

A revival among Catholics would put Obama out of business entirely in no time at all.

I trust that, if he could find a way, he would stop that revival in its tracks.

I think it's obvious whose lot he's in with.

God help him.

35 posted on 06/14/2009 4:42:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Death to Databases.)
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To: kosta50

I’d like to see the Catholic Church slam Notre Dame for honoring the abortionist president. I love Notre Dame but am very disappointed in the decision to honor this guy.


36 posted on 06/14/2009 6:17:17 PM PDT by NYCop (In Memory of Maj Francis E Visconti USMC, MIA since 22 NOV 65, but not forgotten)
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To: NYer

So what is the short version, for people who don’t watch TV over the ‘Net?


37 posted on 06/14/2009 8:29:26 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: NYer

I don’t have a TV right now, even though I have cable service in my condos. I would have to pay extra for EWTN. If I want to watch something really badly — I go to a friend’s house across town and watch his.

He and his wife and I have re-connected after about five years when he called me and wanted me to come over and re-teach him how to say the Rosary.

I did see you and someone else discussing the Obama thing on another thread. Makes me want a new TV and more money. LOL!


38 posted on 06/14/2009 8:46:58 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Northern Yankee

This is sounding hopeful. Keep us updated on what is happening.


39 posted on 06/14/2009 8:47:59 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

**A revival among Catholics would put Obama out of business entirely in no time at all.**

As my tagline says, “With God all things are possible.”

Keep praying, everyone. It’s going to happen — although we will probably suffer a lot of persecution first.


40 posted on 06/14/2009 8:49:57 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: NYCop

Over 75 bishops did slam Notre Dame. Read back on any of the Notre Dame threads and you will see the list.

Just do a title search for Notre Dame. And then, of course, go back to May.


41 posted on 06/14/2009 8:51:40 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: SuziQ
To me, it wasn't a coincidence that this all broke just about the time that the [Mass.] Supreme Judicial Court sent down their fiat allowing homosexual marriage in the Commonwealth. The activists who were pushing this issue knew that the Catholic Church would be a very powerful opponent...painting the whole Church with the pedophile brush.

Interesting post, thank you.

Have you tried something someone noticed one time when the furious, hate-mongering storm of inimical journalism broke over George W. Bush's head, a few months after the Iraq invasion? He metasearched on the names of Bush's most furious journalistic critics and the word "gay", and he got some amazing results. Several of the fiercest critics were (are) homosexual. Like the front-page editors of The New York Times, a solid majority of whom are gay or bi, a fact noticed by one of their own number, who mumbled his wonder and relief aloud into an open microphone (saved to storage media; link ).

Remember that the authors of After the Ball, Hunter Madsen and Marshall Kirk, were advertising men who explicitly praised and stated their intention to imitate the Nazi Germans' and Josef Goebbels's propaganda techniques.

42 posted on 06/14/2009 9:12:26 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Salvation
Keep praying, everyone. It’s going to happen

I think so. First of all, there is the baptismal gift.

Second of all, he's making merchandise of God's own, and I shudder to think what sort of holy wrath that inspires in the Almighty.

43 posted on 06/14/2009 9:45:19 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Fraternities are the street gangs of Privileged White Boys.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Not surprising, because so many of them truly thought that George W. Bush wanted the US to be some sort of theocracy. They are scared of Christians, and want them beaten down, whenever possible, because they stand in the way of homosexuals being able to do whatever they want.


44 posted on 06/14/2009 10:19:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: NYCop
I’d like to see the Catholic Church slam Notre Dame for honoring the abortionist president. I love Notre Dame but am very disappointed in the decision to honor this guy.

I am still trying to figure out what that charade was all about. But rather than wait for the bishops to take the lead, Catholics in general must begin to show some spine, and teeth when necessary. Being politicians at heart, the bishops will follow—for sure.

45 posted on 06/14/2009 10:37:31 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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