Skip to comments.What Abortionist Killers Believe: The Consequences of a Fringe Theology
Posted on 06/12/2009 10:05:34 PM PDT by bdeaner
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What I intended was to scoff at all the self-proclaimed virtue.
Taht’s what I’ve been saying since this broke. Qui bono?
No, actually, I meant, he was killed in a Lutheran “church.” Which was to offer evidence for the statement that the mainline Protestant groups had, over time, gone pro-abort.
Yeah I got that part.
The USCCB is hardly beyond reproach. For all the noise and smoke you would think that bishops had actually done something. You would think maybe someone has actually been refused communion, but no were still just starting to commence to begin to get ready to do something.
Since the Episcopal Church abandoned my principles, I have sought a Church home. Because the Catholic Church will not actually match action to words, I have not been able to settle there, though I long to do so.
One of the strangest dissonances in life is that the wholesale failure of the mankind is compensated for by singularly humble acts.
“One of the strangest dissonances in life is that the wholesale failure of the mankind is compensated for by singularly humble acts.” A profound comment, my FRiend. I shall contemplate that sparkling gem. I have no doubt that the fervent prayers of John Paul did much to stay The Lord’s hand when we the people deserved His wrath. May God have mercy upon US.
“The USCCB is hardly beyond reproach. For all the noise and smoke you would think that bishops had actually done something.”
Oh, then you agree with me, as in what I said to RobbyS in post 25:
“You're right. As much as the Catholic hierarchy have done for life, they have also done many stupid things that have worked against life. Regrettably, many of our bishops have been and are feckless.
"Which is why we should remember to pray for them even more."
I will add that there are many things that they have not done, as well, the failure to do which have worked against life.
We call this a temporal situation, and, no, the bishops don't do things the way we, who are often ignorant of the finer aspects of canon law and Sacred Tradition, would like to see happen. Like using good sense in their personnel decisions. There's a lot of things going on that we don't know. Always have been, always will be.
It is a difficult thing, it seems, to not let the actions of men effect one's faith and the practice of it. I grew up in a place where the hierarchy was dealing with a combination of "personnel issues" all the time. My parish in the 80's had a sex offender who went to prison in 1983 followed by an alcoholic who never did admit it after two interventions followed by another who was laicized not too long ago for some very sketchy things and is now in jail somewhere in Arkansas. It could just have been the combination of people at the top, but things were dealt with. And the core of that parish is still intact. You can't let that sort of stuff effect your faith. Ultimately, it's still a very private matter between you and God.
Headlines can be deceiving. Here, on this forum, our last archbishop was a hero for his very public pronouncements on life issues and regarding withholding the sacraments from politicians. The actual procedure is private consultation long before you get to that stage, but that's not the point here. He left this archdiocese a personnel disaster and spent cash on things that should have been major donor driven. And stuff that should have been put on hold (or not done at all, in one case) until some other big repairs were made. Just because of where I currently am a parish member, I hear all sorts of dirt. Anyway, when he left, there was nobody to run the place, because he took his assistant with him (that one's back now). It's not too horrible of a mess, and it's not like it hasn't been worse, but there has been, along the way, a lot of very demoralized people who are vital to inspiring others to the Glory of God - and all because our previous archbishop was really into the position. But, does it effect those of us in the trenches. No. At least it shouldn't. Not where I am. And this is just on this side of the river. The poor people in Belleville have it much worse with a bishop who never should have been elevated. I got an earful from the relatives about that yesterday.
But, these are the actions of men. No one should ever let the actions of men effect their faith. Maybe it's just because I've seen a lot, but that's something you really have to think about. Love is all about taking the good with the bad, and when you love the Church, you love her warts and all.
We'd love to have all the good, strong, faithful people we can get. Just remember that those of us who grew up on the inside have seen far more than the headlines have ever said, and we're still here.
So the "old testament" is a more authoritative text for "anti-Semites" than the "new?"
Talk about irony.
PS: The text quoted from Genesis according to RaMBa"M means that abortion (for non-Jews) is murder.