Posted on 06/27/2009 10:01:54 AM PDT by Salvation
How Old Is Your Church?If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517. If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry. If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560. If you are a Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England founded by Samuel Seabury in the American colonies in the 17th century. If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582. If you are a Methodist, your religion was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744. If you are a Unitarian, Theophilus Lindley founded your church in London in 1774. If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, N.Y., in 1829. If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605. If you are of the Dutch Reformed church, you recognize Michaelis Jones as founder, because he originated your religion in New York in 1628. If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865. If you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy as its founder. If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as 'Church of the Nazarene," "Pentecostal Gospel." "Holiness Church," "Pilgrim Holiness Church," "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past century. If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church. |
Paul wrote in Romans 3.
7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Personally, I am Catholic and I love my Protestant and Jewish Brothers and Sisters. I want all the infighting to stop.
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We need more solidarity, not less! I with you!
My Church was founded by God before the foundation of the earth.
Yes, the pure Church founded alone by Jesus Christ somehow had started selling indulgences. Under pressure during the Reformation, it stopped selling them for cash.
It still teaches them, although, again, the whole idea seems to have been left out of Jesus’ teaching.
It is possible to have a serious and respectful discussion of the differences between us - but not on a thread that lumps Methodists, Lutherans, Baptists, Mormons and ‘Christian Scientists’ together.
Bishops within the Lutheran and Anglican rites still have apostolic succession, they just broke away from the central authority emanating from the Bishop of Rome.....
**they just broke away from the central authority emanating from the Bishop of Rome.....**
So they are no longer connected to the original apostles then, are they?
That had to be a big pain for mailing.
timed for the Furth of July (fireworks)
Neither are the Orthodox or Coptic Churches. However, their bishops were still consecrated by those whose line of succession goes back directly to the 12 apostles.....
“All the breakaway sects that came have decayed and withered away”
Link?
The Orthodox and Oriental Churchs are part of the same Apostolic Church with the CAtholic Churchs (all the Catholic churchs including the Latin, Syro-Malabar, Maronite etc)
Re: “Where is the Lutherans? They’ve split and split again. What about the Anglicans? They’ve spawned the Methodists, Wesleyans, Salvation Army etc. What about Calvinists? Prebyterians, Reformed, Reformed Again etc. groups”
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Beats me — my family tried them all out — went from Lutheran to Presbyterian to Methodist et al. I don’t participate so don’t know the differences but depending upon the particular congregation, they can’t all be that different if people jump back and forth as they do. A cousin joined PC USA. What is that?
***The New Testament does not say anything about the location of baptism or the identity of the administrator making any difference.***
I asked a CofC preacher once if Eastern Orthodox Christians were saved since they practiced immersion baptism. he said NO, because one of his CofC preachers did not do the dipping.
There are about five (4) Cof C churches here. Each claims to be the “corect” one.
Sunday School CofC,
No sunday School or kitchen CofC
Christian Church with (gasp)music!
One cup CofC. No individual communion cups.
Oh, really? I recall visiting the St. Louis Cathedral Basilica in the year 2000 and seeing brochures there for a "Jubilee Indulgence" your pope was promoting.
And besides actual indulgences, there still remains the underlying error on the doctrine of justification, which shows up in a number of Roman practices.
“I would lump Baptists, Christian scientists together...”
You prove yourself too ignorant to debate.
Your argument consists of “I’m right, you’re wrong, and that proves I’m right.”
Please don’t be surprised if you don’t convince a lot of people...
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