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Posted on 06/27/2009 10:01:54 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

Hmmm... what does the Bible have to say about this?

Paul writes, in 1 Corinthians 1:

10I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11My brothers, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[a]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into[b] the name of Paul? 14I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15so no one can say that you were baptized into my name. 16(Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.


51 posted on 06/27/2009 10:49:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Scanian

Trail of Blood is a good book, but you have to be careful about some of his claims. Some of them can not be verified today. Some of them aren’t clarified enough and can lead to Baptists being linked with some heretical groups as well.


52 posted on 06/27/2009 10:50:21 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

**I hope you have your fire suit ready!**

Yes, it’s on. LOL!


53 posted on 06/27/2009 10:50:54 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: LottieDah

“Actually there will be at least one Jew in Heaven”

No argument.

I was addressing the Denomination thing.

I thought about that as I posted, but the discussion seemed to be about Christian Churches. The Jews in Israel have no better friend in the world than the Evangelical Christians in the West, especially in the U.S.

The Old Testament (Tanakh) is from your people.

We are in this together until the end.

We fight the same enemy, and worship the same God. Our perspective is different, but we should not be divided.

We have free will, and ultimately are responsible for our own decisions.

Respectfully,

TF


54 posted on 06/27/2009 10:51:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: LottieDah

How about Moses and Elijah, also Enoch?


55 posted on 06/27/2009 10:52:43 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: csmusaret

5000 years or a littl over


56 posted on 06/27/2009 10:52:58 AM PDT by classified
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To: Fiji Hill

I don’t understand your point. Catholics don’t worship the Pope either. So what?


57 posted on 06/27/2009 10:53:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Salvation
If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus

Big deal! We go back to Abraham, about 1900 years before that.

ML/NJ

58 posted on 06/27/2009 10:54:06 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Blogger
Baptists don't answer it at all:
1. Naturally there's no Biblical evidence for infant baptism because The NT only talks about the time just after Christ when Christianity was a new religion and all the converts would naturally not be infants. Though what about the stories of the entire centurion's family being baptised? Just because there is no biblical words that say infant baptism took place doesn't mean it didn't happen. The Bible doesn't talk about the Chinese Emperors nor the Mayans but that doesn't mean it didn't happen
59 posted on 06/27/2009 10:54:30 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Salvation

It’s interesting reading some of the posts on this thread talk about how it doesn’t matter ... all were started in 33AD .... there are no denominations in heaven ... etc. Yet there are so many theological arguments on FR.

Either it doesn’t matter or it does ... can’t have it both ways, folks.


60 posted on 06/27/2009 10:55:03 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Cronos; lightman; Cletus.D.Yokel; bcsco; Salvation
But it was still founded by Luther, correct?

No. The religion Lutherans practice was founded by the Lord God Almighty in the Garden of Eden with the first promise of the gospel, Genesis 3:15. ;^)

Luther initially started off talking about removing the corruption within The Church -- something that he could have done WITHIN the Church. . . .

Not after the Pope booted him out! That was in 1520. But even for decades after, Luther wanted a general council of the church to deal with the issues. When Trent finally came, after Luther's death, it failed to correct the errors and even anathematized the Lutheran teachings. And Rome has still not corrected her errors on the central article of the Christian faith, i.e., justification. (That JDDJ of ten years ago was a farce, agreed to only by very liberal "Lutherans.")

61 posted on 06/27/2009 10:55:13 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: Salvation

I don’t see ONE Roman church. I hear hundreds of voices making radically different points all the time.


62 posted on 06/27/2009 10:55:24 AM PDT by DManA
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Most Protestant/evangelical sects don’t preach an “underground” church but rather a “universal” or “invisible” one comprising all people who believe directly on Christ for eternal salvation. Baptists have a long history of bitter difference with the CoC over just this kind of issue, the CoC being almost as dogmatic as the RCC about the unique power of baptism in their local houses of worship, and the Baptists saying no, salvation is based on personal relationship with Christ which in turn is based on hearing the Bible message, and baptism is a ceremony of witness. The Baptists match up with most other Protestants and evangelicals in this regard. The question of canonical Christian scripture was settled before the church got into anything which is anathema to most Protestants and evangelicals (e.g. alliance with a pagan government).

So how old is “my church”? As old as creation.


63 posted on 06/27/2009 10:57:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (In only 19 weeks, 0 has enabled us to agree with the Taliban [his empty speechifying] - Iron Munro)
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To: Salvation
If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.

Pfft! So-called "apostolic succession" does not make a true church; faithfulness to Christ's commands does.

64 posted on 06/27/2009 10:59:22 AM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Cronos

Nobody said it didn’t happen. It isn’t biblical though. There is NOTHING in Scripture to instruct the churches (and there is a LOT of instruction there) to baptize infants or non-believers.


65 posted on 06/27/2009 10:59:55 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Salvation

Yes, but these founders didn’t wake up one day and find gold engraved plates revealing a “new Gospel” on those dates. They were taking the existing faith in the direction they felt the Spirit was leading them.


66 posted on 06/27/2009 11:00:01 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Salvation
Since you conveniently left off many facts that would seem to be impossible.
67 posted on 06/27/2009 11:01:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Cronos
....the first gasp of Protestants like the lutherans, Anglicans, Calvinists, they’re dying out.
The second gasp like Unitarians, Presbyterians are dying out faster.
The third gasp includes Christian Scientists, Baptists etc.
The fourth being the most virulent strain are Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses etc....

Ping for later

68 posted on 06/27/2009 11:02:07 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: DManA
I don’t see ONE Roman church. I hear hundreds of voices making radically different points all the time.

There is one, singular, infallible MAGISTERIUM of the Church. Opinions of individuals within the Church are not the Magisterium. SEE HERE.

For example, Nancy Pelosi does NOT speak for the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. On the contrary, she is a heretic who is undermining the Church's authority and has been chastised for it by the Pope himself.
69 posted on 06/27/2009 11:02:49 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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To: csmusaret
*** How old is the Jewish religion? ****

That's irrelevant.
This thread is about 'Churches' and Christianity..

The Catholic Church is the only church that can claim to have been founded by Christ personally. Every other church traces its lineage back to a mere human person such as Martin Luther or John Wesley. The Catholic Church can trace its lineage back to Jesus Christ who appointed St. Peter as the first pope. This line of popes has continued unbroken for almost 2,000 years.

God rules, instructs and sanctifies His people through His Church. Under her teaching office, the Catholic Church preserves the Word of God. She is the custodian, keeper, dispenser and interpreter of teachings of Christ. And she accomplishes this under the protection of the Holy Spirit.

It's not about Paganism, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, the Zoroastrians, Islam, the Druids, or the 'gods' of ancient Egypt, Greece or Rome.

Nice try though. Have a nice day.

70 posted on 06/27/2009 11:02:50 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Salvation
How Old Is Your Church? If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.

Ok,....Let's STOP right here! Stop the Protestant bashing!

Lutherans are **Christians**. Christ is the foundation of Christianity! Their faith and church goes back to Christ. Martin Luther merely got their Christian faith ( founded by Christ) back on track, and correctly **reformed** the faith, and threw out the corruption and abuse that had infiltrated it.

71 posted on 06/27/2009 11:03:08 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Cronos

You are kind of missing the point of why the protestant churches sprang up, which basically stems from their belief (not altogether unjustified) that the Roman Church had strayed so far from the message and meaning of Christianity with the decadence, corruption and hypocrisy of its clergymen at all levels that it was felt that a clean break and a return to what they believed was the true message of Jesus and the Bible.... The Church of England and the Lutherans still have apostolic succession, as does the Orthodox and Coptic Churches.

The fact that the Bishop of Rome somehow became the most important clergyman is a mere reflection of the fact that Rome was at the time of the foundation of the Papacy the centre of the known world....


72 posted on 06/27/2009 11:04:41 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Mr Rogers

***“If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.”

Ummm...you DO realize that only Roman Catholics accept that last statement as true?***

Only Catholics accept that last statement as true.


73 posted on 06/27/2009 11:05:56 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Condor51
The Catholic Church is the only church that can claim to have been founded by Christ personally.

Tell that to the Greek/Eastern Orthodox Church. They lay as much claim to the direct lineage to Rome as the Catholic Church does.

74 posted on 06/27/2009 11:07:21 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Blogger

***Baptists are much older. Baptists organized in England around that time, but to say that is when they started is simply historically inaccurate.***

Do you have any evidence? The earliest Baptist attribution I’ve ever seen is Smyth in Holland.


75 posted on 06/27/2009 11:07:24 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Blogger

Here the deal. Most of those churches are called “protestant” churches. A couple are heretical anti-trinitarain cults. It is wrong to lump these cults into the same class as protestant churches. All of the protestant churches in your list affirm both the Apostles Creed and the Nicean Creed which states “I believe in the holy catholic church”. So what does this make those of us who belong to “prostestant” churches? It makes us “protest-ant” that is protesting catholics. All orthodox western Christians are branches from same tree the root of which was established by Jesus Christ in 33 AD. The Roman catholic church is one branch, the partiarchal orthodox churches are another branch. The protestant churches are branches off the roman catholic branch, but we all share the same root.


76 posted on 06/27/2009 11:08:10 AM PDT by sonrise57 (Help us God for evil men have surrounded us.)
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To: pburgh01

***I am part Jewish ***

Which part?

***Islam is what 1300 years old? This thread is retarded and sad that some Catholic apologists have to resort to specious and vapid sophomoric arguments.***

Are you a practicing Jew?


77 posted on 06/27/2009 11:08:27 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: bdeaner

Excellent point.


78 posted on 06/27/2009 11:09:12 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Salvation
One more thing:

I am a former Catholic.

One of the things that I deeply resent about the Catholic faith was its **cultish** teaching that leaving the faith meant certain damnation in the fires of hell. They were the “true” faith and the only possessors of the ordinances of salvation.

Ok...So I am past that and the Catholic cult no longer has any emotional hold on me.

Generally, the Catholic Church as a lot that is correct about it. Our nation would be stronger if we had a lot more Catholics who truly believed in and followed every word of their catechism.

But...Please, **stop** bashing Protestants as somehow having their faith founded by Luther, Knox, or Henry...or anyone else. Our faith was founded by **Christ**!

79 posted on 06/27/2009 11:11:26 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: stockpirate

***The Catholic Church isn’t any different or any better then any of the other sects of the church.***

The Catholic Church isn’t a sect.

***We could always ask how many people were burned at the stake by Baptists vs Catholics, lowest number wins.***

We could also ask which Church preserves the Gospel of Jesus and the Faith that we were instructed in by God and not man. The man with the right map and who is Judged worthy of salvation by the Grace of God gets eternal, well, salvation.


80 posted on 06/27/2009 11:11:27 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: DManA

So idiots like you can ask stupid questions.


81 posted on 06/27/2009 11:12:29 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is an illegal alien)
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To: DManA

***They were taking the existing faith in the direction they felt the Spirit was leading them.***

“Felt”? Are the Protestants now claiming to be third grade girls feeling their way through their emotional theology?

There is the Church and all else is outside the Church. You have the free will to choose.


82 posted on 06/27/2009 11:16:06 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wintertime

***Ok,....Let’s STOP right here! Stop the Protestant bashing!

Lutherans are **Christians**. Christ is the foundation of Christianity! Their faith and church goes back to Christ. Martin Luther merely got their Christian faith ( founded by Christ) back on track, and correctly **reformed** the faith, and threw out the corruption and abuse that had infiltrated it.***

With his 1000 fornications a day? I doubt it.


83 posted on 06/27/2009 11:17:06 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

***The Catholic Church is the only church that can claim to have been founded by Christ personally.

Tell that to the Greek/Eastern Orthodox Church. They lay as much claim to the direct lineage to Rome as the Catholic Church does.***

The Orthodox Church IS Catholic.


84 posted on 06/27/2009 11:18:02 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Timocrat

To answer your question from an Eastern Perspective, the Eastern Orthodox Church is The Eastern Orthodox Church, it is the same as it ever was and it has existed since Pentecost...Rome used to be a part of it.

This is a simplifying statement: From Pentecost until the 11th century there was one Christian Church - it was founded by Jesus Christ. It had grown during that time to include many Bishops, but 5 of them were considered pre-eminent: Rome, Constantinople, Jerusalem, Alexandria, and Antioch. (By way of further detail, the Egyptian Coptics and the Ethopian Orthodox churches broke communion after the 3rd ecumenical council. These churches still exist but are what is known as “Non-Chalcedonian,” meaning they did not accept the rulings of the Council of Chalcedon).

Anyway, of those 5, a seat of honorary primacy was held by the Bishop of Rome, owing largely to the fact that the first Bishop of Rome was St. Peter - who was also recognized as the leader and primary spokesman for the 12 Disciples.

Differences in language and culture (as the Empire expanded) and later philosophy and theology began to isolate Rome from the rest of the Bishoprics, or “Sees.” Friction intensified over several centuries between Rome and the rest of the Sees, which were separated from Rome by the Mediterranean as well as primary language (Latin vs. Greek). This escalated to a particular event in the year 1054.

The Eastern Church has always viewed Church decisions to be made in a conciliar fashion, while the Roman Church evolved as a Monarchy. The Eastern Church as a rule eschews instituting ecumenical decisions made by one man.

For the third time in this posting, and for the benefit of my FReeper brothers and sisters who may be adherents of the Church of Rome, the things I say here are the Eastern Perspective.

Protestantism developed out of the Western Church - out of the Roman Church. There has not been a similar “Reformation” from the Eastern Church.

A little joke that puts that in perspective...

How many Orthodox Christians does it take to change a light bulb?
Change? What is this, “CHANGE?”


85 posted on 06/27/2009 11:18:11 AM PDT by Yudan (Living comes much easier once we admit we're dying.)
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To: Salvation
I just found this additional information:

What is the History of Your Church?

What is the History of Your Church?

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Church Year Established Founder Where Established
 
Catholic 33 Jesus Christ Jerusalem
 
Orthodox 1054 Schismatic Catholic
Bishops
Constantinople
 
Lutheran 1517 Martin Luther Germany
 
Anabaptist 1521 Nicholas Storch &
Thomas Munzer
Germany
 
Anglican 1534 Henry VIII England
 
Mennonites 1536 Menno Simons Switzerland
 
Calvinist 1555 John Calvin Switzerland
 
Presbyterian 1560 John Knox Scotland
 
Congregational 1582 Robert Brown Holland
 
Baptist 1609 John Smyth Amsterdam
 
Dutch Reformed 1628 Michaelis Jones New York
 
Congregationalist 1648 Pilgrims and Puritans Massachusetts
 
Quakers 1649 George Fox England
 
Amish 1693 Jacob Amman France
 
Freemasons 1717 Masons from four lodges London
 
Methodist 1739 John & Charles
Wesley
England
 
Unitarian 1774 Theophilus Lindey London
 
Methodist Episcopal 1784 60 Preachers Baltimore, MD
 
Episcopalian 1789 Samuel Seabury American Colonies
 
United Brethren 1800 Philip Otterbein &
Martin Boehn
Maryland
 
Disciples of Christ 1827 Thomas & Alexander
Campbell
Kentucky
 
Mormon 1830 Joseph Smith New York
 
Methodist Protestant 1830 Methodist United States
 
Church of Christ 1836 Warren Stone &
Alexander Campbell
Kentucky
 
Seventh Day Adventist 1844 Ellen White Washington, NH
 
Christadelphian (Brethren
of Christ
1844 John Thomas Richmond, VA
 
Salvation Army 1865 William Booth London
 
Holiness 1867 Methodist United States
 
Jehovah's Witnesses 1874 Charles Taze Russell Pennsylvania
 
Christian Science 1879 Mary Baker Eddy Boston
 
Church of God in Christ 1895 Various churches of God Arkansas
 
Church of Nazarene c. 1850-1900 Various religious bodies Pilot Point, TX
 
Pentecstal 1901 Charles F. Parkham Topeka, KS
 
Aglipayan 1902 Gregorio Aglipay Philippines
 
Assemblies of God 1914 Pentecostalism Hot Springs, AZ
 
Iglesia ni Christo 1914 Felix Manalo Philippines
 
Four-square Gospel 1917 Aimee Semple
McPherson
Los Angeles, CA
 
United Church of Christ 1961 Reformed and
Congregationalist
Philadelphia, PA
 
Calvary Chapel 1965 Chuck Smith Costa Mesa, CA
 
United Methodist 1968 Methodist and United
Brethren
Dallas, TX
 
Born-again c. 1970s Various religious bodies United States
 
Harvest Christian 1972 Greg Laurie Riverside, CA
 
Saddleback 1982 Rick Warren California
 
Non-denominational c. 1990s various United States

86 posted on 06/27/2009 11:18:14 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The Catholic Church isn’t a sect.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In many ways it is a **cult**. It threats its members with eternal damnation if they leave it. It claims to have the **only** and **true** ordinances and priesthood needed for salvation.

If that isn't a cult then what is?

87 posted on 06/27/2009 11:21:20 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: MarkBsnr

Then why aren’t Lutherans “catholic”? Why aren’t protestants “catholic”?


88 posted on 06/27/2009 11:25:08 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Condor51

Thanks for the laughs.


89 posted on 06/27/2009 11:26:44 AM PDT by csmusaret (http://www.aipnews.com/)
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To: Salvation

Propoganda pure and simple. And it isn’t like the Catholic church hasn’t had huge blemishes over the year. It was a bastion of sin and corruption for centuries which is what led to the Reformation.


90 posted on 06/27/2009 11:27:23 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: bmwcyle

Nice christian attitude.


91 posted on 06/27/2009 11:29:03 AM PDT by DManA
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To: MarkBsnr

Obviously you feel anger. Pray about it.


92 posted on 06/27/2009 11:29:53 AM PDT by DManA
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Tell that to the Greek/Eastern Orthodox Church. They lay as much claim to the direct lineage to Rome as the Catholic Church does.
Hey don't argue with me.
Argue with the website I linked that quotation to.

However the Greek, Eastern Orthodox and/or Russian Orthodox (pick a name) are all 'Catholics' too. Yes there was a split (Great Schism) over the 'Bishop of Rome' being 'supreme', but reconciliation is ongoing.

93 posted on 06/27/2009 11:32:26 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Blogger

There’s nothing in scripture to instruct the churches to baptise or NOT baptise infants


94 posted on 06/27/2009 11:33:42 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Condor51
Yes there was a split (Great Schism) over the 'Bishop of Rome' being 'supreme', but reconciliation is ongoing

At midnight Mass one of the priests serving was introduced as being Eastern Orthodox. What are the major differences?

95 posted on 06/27/2009 11:34:09 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: DManA
Yes, but these founders didn’t wake up one day and find gold engraved plates revealing a “new Gospel” on those dates

Actually they did -- they all felt that everyone before them had got it wrong, so they founded their religions.
96 posted on 06/27/2009 11:35:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Condor51

So maybe Roman Catholics will come back to the one true church and no longer be a sect?


97 posted on 06/27/2009 11:37:23 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
The Orthodox, COptic (and other Oriental Churchs like the Armenian) and Assyrian Churchs are NOT Protestant groups. These (Orthodox, Orientals, Catholic, Assyrian are all part of the One Apostolic Church)

The Lutherans got co-opted with the northern GErmanic princelings fights against the holy Roman Empire while the CoE, well we all know about Henry VIII
98 posted on 06/27/2009 11:37:35 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: wintertime

We’ve talked about this before. There are many who claim to be “former” Catholics out there. The facts are that once you are baptized as a Catholic you are always a Catholic.

Welcome home at any time.


99 posted on 06/27/2009 11:40:09 AM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
the CoC being almost as dogmatic as the RCC about the unique power of baptism in their local houses of worship,

Where did you ever hear that? Don't believe everything you hear. The New Testament does not say anything about the location of baptism or the identity of the administrator making any difference. A believing penitent could get Mahmoud Ahmajinedad to baptize him in the Persian Gulf and it wouldn't make any difference to God. Of course it would make a differnce to the beliver's physical well-being if Ahmajinedad wouldn't let him up. :)

What does the Bible say in Acts 2:38?

Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins...

Mark 16:16:

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

1 Peter 3:21:

The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ

100 posted on 06/27/2009 11:41:37 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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