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Senate Approves Amendment Adding "Hate Crimes" to Defense Spending Bill
Lifesitenews.com ^ | July 17, 2009 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 07/18/2009 10:20:30 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII

The United States Senate approved an amendment yesterday adding "hate crimes" legislation to the annual Defense Authorization bill, which would add "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" to the list of federally-protected classes.

The Senate voted 63 - 28 to attach S.909, the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act (MSHCPA), to the $680 billion defense bill meant to support US troops fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Senate Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada favored attaching the hotly-debated bill as an amendment, instead of putting it forward as a stand-alone bill, in hopes of easing its passage, but his tactic drew outcry from Senate Republicans.

"Those of us who oppose this legislation - and it is important legislation - will be faced with a dilemma of choosing between a bill which can harm, in my view, the United States of America and its judicial system and a bill defending the nation," protested Sen. John McCain, who denounced Reid's tactic as an "abuse of power."


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bhodod; defensespending; hatecrimes; homosexualagenda; matthewshepard; mccain; reid; thoughtpolice

1 posted on 07/18/2009 10:20:30 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII
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To: Pope Pius XII

What stage is this in? Has it been approved by the house already?


2 posted on 07/18/2009 10:22:58 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Pope Pius XII
Ping for later review.

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3 posted on 07/18/2009 10:29:12 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks


4 posted on 07/18/2009 10:29:59 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: keats5

How, in any twisted definition of a sane world, should a crime committed out of bias be any more or less punishable than a crime committed without bias?

Only the demented liberal mind could come up with such a sick concept – the crime kinda sorta matters, sure... but it’s really how you FELT when you were beating that guy over the head with a pipe that matters.

Of course, this just gives them another justification for their OWN prejudices and bias because, of course, no hate crime in Obamaworld could POSSIBLY be intended by, say, people who beat other people to the ground while shouting “it’s a black world!”.


5 posted on 07/18/2009 10:30:06 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Pope Pius XII

I didn’t know that the gay community needed this much backing from the United States Armed Forces that they would wrap themselves together with the military’s priorities. What strange bedfellows these Democrats paired up in this bill.


6 posted on 07/18/2009 10:30:47 AM PDT by eaglestar
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The gay community will do anything to silence those who don’t agree with their perfidious (meaning Godless) lifestyle.


7 posted on 07/18/2009 10:31:16 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pravious

Did RINO Voinovich vote for this?


8 posted on 07/18/2009 10:31:20 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: Pope Pius XII
"Those of us who oppose this legislation - and it is important legislation - will be faced with a dilemma of choosing between a bill which can harm, in my view, the United States of America and its judicial system and a bill defending the nation," protested Sen. John McCain, who denounced Reid's tactic as an "abuse of power."

Do what you usually do then.

Fight for legislation just like it but just a bit less harmful and say you saved the day from those mean dimocrats.

9 posted on 07/18/2009 10:32:03 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

You mean demoncrats


10 posted on 07/18/2009 10:34:53 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII (There's no such thing as divorce)
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To: Pravious
How, in any twisted definition of a sane world, should a crime committed out of bias be any more or less punishable than a crime committed without bias?

A crime committed with a sense of love and togetherness is more compassionate on a Utopian scale.

I.E.: If one bludgeons another with a chainsaw while stating their undying love for the victim it isn't a hate crime.

If a person EVER murders someone with a chain saw or the like they better state their love for the victim to witnesses so as not to be convicted of a hate crime.

Does that make sense now? /sarc

It's the feelings behind it not the actions of it any more that is the crime.

11 posted on 07/18/2009 10:39:05 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Pope Pius XII
One question for John McCain and others who are having a quandry. If they create yet another protected class, in this case one covered by 'don't ask, don't tell', will the policy of 'don't ask, don't tell' still apply, or will those who would have been discharged for open homosexuality in the US military no longer be able to be discharged because it would be a "hate crime"?

This legislation could have far more dangerous implications for national defense and unit cohesiveness/effectiveness than McCain and others are letting on--and those are just the military implications.

Add to that the irony that the Shepherd killing was a robbery run amok.

But beneath it all is the fact that any, and that means ANY "protected class" creates a group more protected by law, which flies in the face of EQUAL protection under the law and makes second-class citizens of EVERYONE NOT IN ONE OF THE "PROTECTED CLASSES".

12 posted on 07/18/2009 10:39:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Voino voted for the version passed the other night.


13 posted on 07/18/2009 10:41:30 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Pope Pius XII

For a view from the other side, see http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/29/hate-crimes-hysteria/ , especially the comments. They honestly feel that we “hate” them and that opposition to the bill means that we want them assaulted.

How is it possible to bridge this divide?


14 posted on 07/18/2009 10:45:22 AM PDT by beejaa
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To: Comparative Advantage; Luke21
No surprises here: GOP voting Yea:

Voinovich

Snowe

Collins

Lugar

Murkowski

15 posted on 07/18/2009 10:47:40 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Pope Pius XII

Who were the R’s that supported this? Are Byrd and Kennedy still AWOL? If so that means at least 5 R’s had to support it.


16 posted on 07/18/2009 10:49:23 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second - GO SARAHCUDA!!!!)
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To: Pope Pius XII

If anyone has it, I would like the list of senators voting for and against attaching this bill as an amendment to the Defense bill. We need to get on the phones and or send e-mail to register our displeasure.


17 posted on 07/18/2009 10:58:59 AM PDT by beejaa
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To: Pope Pius XII

In the long run the perverts will abuse the extra protections. Once the abuse becomes common normal people will do what has to be done.


18 posted on 07/18/2009 11:03:20 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Pope Pius XII

How many Republicans are standing up to say that when Republicans are back in power, they will repeal this inanity?

What? None?

This is their problem. They assume that no matter what atrocities the Democrats have legislated when the Democrats were in power, the Republicans are *obligated* to accept the status quo. They think that whatever the Democrats do is set in concrete, but the Democrats are fancy free to change anything the Republicans do, with no consideration at all to what the Republicans think.

What was that saying about, “If you are going to be raped, you might as well lay back and enjoy it”? That is the Republicans in a nutshell.

They are co-dependent Democrats.


19 posted on 07/18/2009 11:22:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Pope Pius XII

This will be applied to Churches to shut them down when they teach that homosexuality and pedophilia are wrong.


20 posted on 07/18/2009 11:36:09 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: buccaneer81

Where did you get your information about who voted Yea or Nay? I want to send email.


21 posted on 07/18/2009 11:44:55 AM PDT by beejaa
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To: beejaa

The US Senate web site.


22 posted on 07/18/2009 11:47:13 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: buccaneer81

Thank you.


23 posted on 07/18/2009 12:00:10 PM PDT by beejaa
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To: beejaa

People love to think of themselves as victims because it’s an automatic excuse for all failures. They will cling to their victimhood for dear life; it’s nearly impossible to sway them from this belief which, in a universe without God, is the most comforting thing in the world.


24 posted on 07/18/2009 12:12:25 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Pope Pius XII

I think he meant dimrats but all the same.


25 posted on 07/18/2009 12:48:17 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: Pope Pius XII

I can’t speak for the others, but Snowe and Collins are vulnerable without the Navy shipyard in Bath, ME — This really appears to me that they are playing ball to save the shipyards — I could be wrong.

But in light of the letters sent to Jon Kyl’s Governor in Arizona and threat that he received this last week

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2293486/posts

— I’m not shocked that Snowe and Collins are playing ball - But, they should have the same courage as Kyl to step up to a microphone and expose the threat.

The dems are turning up the heat — using their mafia style tactics to get their legislation through. IMO.


26 posted on 07/18/2009 1:17:49 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: buccaneer81

I would have preferred they actually just voted “present” like the left’s “present_dent” used to do.


27 posted on 07/18/2009 1:58:03 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: areukiddingme1
I would have preferred they actually just voted “present” like the left’s “present_dent” used to do.

They're true believers in leftist crap. Snowe and Collins for sure, and Voinovich was mayor of Cleveland. Only a true RINO could win elected office in Cuyahoga County.

28 posted on 07/18/2009 2:02:05 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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29 posted on 07/18/2009 4:35:42 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

“This will be applied to Churches to shut them down when they teach that homosexuality and pedophilia are wrong.”

Oh. You mean like The Holy Bible?

Them what voted these animalistic things in as law are going to be mighty surprised when the jackboots come swinging machetes through their home and business doors. Moslems don’t like disagreement with their world.

The Left does eat its own.


30 posted on 07/18/2009 4:42:20 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: keats5
What stage is this in? Has it been approved by the house already?

If "63" voted for it, it is as good as law. Because no filibuster will stop it.

31 posted on 07/18/2009 9:28:44 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: buccaneer81
Murkowski

Sarah needs to find someone to get that bitch out.

32 posted on 07/18/2009 9:31:19 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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