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Living in a De-Christianized Society
Zenit ^ | 7/5/09 | Fr. John Flynn. LC

Posted on 07/18/2009 10:06:20 PM PDT by bdeaner

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1 posted on 07/18/2009 10:06:21 PM PDT by bdeaner
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Britain is no longer a Christian nation, affirmed Anglican bishop, Paul Richardson,

The same attempt is presently occurring here, beginning in our schools, public buildings and even in appearances by our leader whereby visuals of Christianity are covered, and the National Day of Prayer is not observed.

2 posted on 07/18/2009 10:12:16 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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And Islam is moving right in. They are destroying themselves.


3 posted on 07/18/2009 10:12:20 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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What moral basis guides law?


4 posted on 07/18/2009 10:14:41 PM PDT by allmost
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Dostoyevsky said, “Europe has denied Christ and therefore and only for this reason, it is now dying.” How true.


5 posted on 07/18/2009 10:27:09 PM PDT by Steelfish
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“There is probably no God.” No there is a statement of certainty for you. Just hedging his bets, I assume.


6 posted on 07/18/2009 10:31:42 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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“What moral basis guides law?”

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814


7 posted on 07/18/2009 10:34:50 PM PDT by stormer
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He was wrong.


8 posted on 07/18/2009 10:38:56 PM PDT by allmost
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There is a correlation between the rise of Atheism and the “lack of a common moral code.” If one accepts the position of Dawkins and others, morality and free will are illusions. There are no moral absolutes, for there is no such thing as morality. Humans are animals governed by their genes. Survival is the only purpose of life.


9 posted on 07/18/2009 10:40:07 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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you do not have to be religious to be moral. saying that laws exist without morality is ridiculous.


10 posted on 07/18/2009 10:42:33 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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I’m not certain that whoever asked the question was asking about “common law.” Does the law have a moral basis? If so, what is it?


11 posted on 07/18/2009 10:43:53 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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Read this article

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/apostasy_in_america.htm


12 posted on 07/18/2009 10:48:27 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Apostasy/forgot_god.htm


13 posted on 07/18/2009 10:48:45 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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Unfortunately, Thomas Jefferson isn't around for you to school him on the legal foundations of the United States.
14 posted on 07/18/2009 10:52:10 PM PDT by stormer
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I’ve noticed a new campaign under this administration to indoctrinate younger generations in new pagan approaches of ‘environmental justice’, ‘environmental rights’, ‘Earth Justice’, and other bizarre ‘rights’, such as a ‘right to a home’, ‘rights to environment’ and ‘rights of sustainability’.

They are targeting black inner city teens with promises of professional careers leading social programs to advance these ideals. Unfortunately, that class of people lack the intuition, intelligence, familial childhood, and just loving discipline to recognize the bogus political nature of those agendas, nor discern the consequences of devoting their allegiance to counterfeit substitutes to God’s Plan in their lives.

The only thing more heinous than those agendas, are the criminally insane and corrupt adults who have planned and advocated their logistics.


15 posted on 07/18/2009 10:55:33 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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“Instead, there are choices. The market facilitates those choices. The state handles the consequences, picking up the pieces when they go wrong,” the Jewish leader observed.

EXACTLY! If you want liberty, you have to learn how to restrain yourself.

Why do we have more government? Because the state is stepping in to pick up the pieces left by people who cannot or will not act responsibly.

The question is, how can one get people who believe in no higher moral order to stop destroying themselves and society? We need God!


16 posted on 07/18/2009 10:56:07 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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DennisR: “Just hedging his bets, I assume.”

Not going to do him much good unfortunately.


17 posted on 07/18/2009 10:57:24 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: stormer

What points of mine do you think he would disagree with?


18 posted on 07/18/2009 11:01:12 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Minus_The_Bear

While some laws could be construed as having a moral basis (theft, murder, etc.), it is also the desire of a society to exclude those behaviors in order to maintain the social fabric, regardless of morality. Most laws, have no moral basis, but are in place to regulate commerce and transportation.


19 posted on 07/18/2009 11:01:31 PM PDT by stormer
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Actually, Jefferson was right, but he's being quoted out of context. Christianity is not part of the law. For example, we don't have a national church. On the other hand, the founders were clearly guided by Christian principles.
20 posted on 07/18/2009 11:03:18 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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