Skip to comments.The Madness of Harold Camping (The founder of FAMILY RADIO keep setting dates for Christ's return)
Posted on 07/31/2009 11:00:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
2 Peter 3:16 There are some things in them (the letters of Paul in the NT) that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
Harold Camping is the president and heretic in chief at Family Radio International. For those of you who have the privilege of getting Family Radio broadcast in your area,you probably have mixed feelings. While driving your car, or working on some project, it may be hard to find a station to listen to that is spiritually edifying. Then comes Family Radio. Hymns, Bible reading, prayer, etc. It seems like an oasis of spiritual refreshment in the middle of an airwaves desert. Then comes Harold Camping in a bible study hour. Then his Open Forum. And what do you hear? The world is coming to an end May 21, 2011. According to an advertisement on Family Radio, Harold Camping has figured out the time of the Lords coming with great accuracy to the day, year, and hour. Sound crazy? It is.
Harold Camping is mad (out of his mind). Not only is he mad, but he a false prophet, and guilty of twisting the word of God. This is nothing new for him either. It all started back in the early 90s when he believed the world would end in 1994, and made a prediction for the second coming of Jesus. As expected 1994 came and went and Jesus did not return. After being humiliated most people thought he would repent and admit he was wrong. But instead, Harry had a new plan. In his own words, he got, new information from the bible revealing to him that what really happened in 1994 was that the church age had come to an end. The corporate church was no longer to exist. The ordinances of baptism and the Lords Supper were to cease, pastors to resign, and churches to fold. According to Camping, God had pronounced judgment on the church for infidelity and therefore any true Christian must heed the warning to flee the church or come under the wrath of God. All of this is backed up by a hermeneutic that is based on an allegorical interpretation to all of scripture. As a result, Camping can essentially make the bible say what ever he wants. All of his interpretation of scripture now was pointing to the end of the church age. It gets worse.
In the last year or so, Camping has went out on a limb and declared that this time he got it right. Jesus is coming back on May 21, 2011. On that day true Christian will be raptured and everyone else will come under the judgment of Christ for a period of five months, ending on October 21, 2011. Once this one got some traction he went even further. According to more new information he is getting from the bible, the doctrine of Hell is a false doctrine. It was devised by man for the purpose of intimidating people. According to Camping, when an unbeliever dies, he will face God on judgment day and then be annihilated (or cease to exist).
Harold Camping has made some audacious and bold claims. While most Evangelicals do not take him seriously, there are enough who do. Sadly Harold Camping has upset the faith of some( 2 Tim. 2:18) back in 1994 by misleading people to believe that Christ was returning. He has continued to do this by misleading people to leave the local church which is The pillar and buttress of truth 1 Tim. 3:15, and is again misleading people to think the end of the world is coming in 2011.
Consequently I felt led to post a few articles exposing Camping for who he is. He is not a brother, nor a teacher of the word. He is a false teacher and is guilty of misleading many of Gods people. The bible tells us in Matt 18:6 whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea. Today is just an introduction to the madness and insanity of Harold Camping. I do pray and hope that he will repent before he dies as he is an old man. And to be fair he was a sound teacher for many years before he went down this road. Nonetheless he will be accountable to God for twisting scriptures and will face judgment unless he repents.
He keeps setting dates because it’s working for him. As soon as it stops working he’ll stop too.
A false prophet Rev. Ike died today. Camping maybe next.
Sad. Mr. Camping didn't come off as all there anymore.
Watch out for May 21, 2011. This time Harold Camping says he’s gotten it right.
I’m going to ask him to give me all his property 6 months before that date. After all, he won’t need them anymore since he’s so sure.
As you properly posted this in the Religion forum, I’ll keep my opinions on how asinine this guy is to myself.
Camping is his own worst enemy.
He has failed so many times that his name is a synonym for feckless.
Harold Camping started going down this road years ago. Mid eighties he had one line where it was time to stop evangelizing, the role of the church was at that point just to keep believers from falling away. Believers were to have as little as possible in dealing with the outside world - an extreme version of what I call “bomb shelter Christianity”, where everyone is just huddled in their bomb shelter church, lest they be contaminated by the outside. He sounds like he is afraid to smile or laugh, it might be sinful (I knew some Christians that had that point of view, they also listened to a lot of Camping).
He’s gotta be wrong, its going to end Dec 21, 2012
I was coming back from vacation last summer and I turned on the scan option of my stereo to just listen. A Christian talk show came up and I listened. The elderly host was commenting on these things and I felt uncomfortable in my spirit about them. The words false prophet came into my mind. When the station break came up it mentioned that it was Harold Camping.
Woe to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! says the Lord. 2Therefore, thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, concerning the shepherds who shepherd my people: It is you who have scattered my flock, and have driven them away, and you have not attended to them. So I will attend to you for your evil doings, says the Lord.
He seemed sane for quite a while, but he has really gone off the deep end. Sadly, he is taking a lot of people with him.
The book on Camping:
Love your tagline ("Dispensationalists Say The Darndest Things!"). There's been at least one post defending Camping on another thread. I wonder if we'll get any technicolor commentary in defense of Harold Camping?
Prophecy Pundits are at it Again
The Tribulation has already begun New book will reveal the details
Christians and Freemasonry, Harold Camping's Open Forum; 28 March AD 2005
Family Radio" , Harold Camping, Robert A. Cook
Amills say the darnedest things.
That pic looks like Weekend at Bernie's Family Hour.
I know. He looks dead and embalmed now.
There's been at least one post defending Camping on another thread. I wonder if we'll get any technicolor commentary in defense of Harold Camping?
Iron Sharpens Iron had James White alone on (Harold Camping alone on Friday) yesterday talking about the Camping debate yesterday. I listened to it. Camping supporters were coming out of the woodwork.
Amills say the darnedest things.
You're not shouting at me, and raving about the nephelim. That's good.
Is this “Family Radio” the shortwave station from Scituate, Massachusetts and Lake Okeechobee, Florida?
They have stations worldwide.
See here :
Yep, that’s the one. WYFR. They and HCJB (”The Voice of the Andes”) in Quito, Ecuador were the two main Fundamentalist Protestant shortwave stations back when I used to listen and collect QSL cards. I think the Internet has now sort of made shortwave obsolete.
Sure, why not...
I don't know anything about this guy but on this particular topic, I can not see where believing Jesus will return on one day as opposed to another will have even the least bit to do with the salvation of that believer...
I mean it's not like this guy is telling people they have a place in heaven because someone dripped some water on them and they ate a cracker named God...
You and me both, friend. You and me both.
(In your deepest rumbling, tumbling, graveliest voice)”. . . and thank you for sharing.”
OK...Sounds like a real wingnut...
the cross then is just a "representation" of what He did in eternity past!
Hmmm. That sounds like....
No one can determine the end of time other than the Lord himself. He knows when and according to the bible, we will know that it is time when it actually gets here. This is repeated a number of times in the New Testament.
He is a rude and obnoxious man who needs to be taken off the air for immoral and outrageous behavior. How could a religious program like this continue to have him on the air. They need to find someone who is morally and ethically correct to take over and make it worth listening to.
The problem with Harold Camping is he is at this point in time, UNTEACHABLE.
Years after his first debacle ( he predicted Christ would return in 1994 and wrote a book about it ), pastors, teachers and elders have all tried to reach out to him to stop this madness. They’ve tried to counsel him, advise him, warn him at first privately, then publicly, to no avail.
One of them is Dr. James White, who actually challenged him to a public debate. You can hear portions of the debate here :
He not only refused to listen, he also continued to add strange doctrines to his teachings, chief among them is that the churches have ALL become apostate and it is useless to attend ANY of them at all.
It’s sad really as his radio station still airs some very good programs ( except his own teachings ). It is one of the very few stations in the country that still plays good old fashion traditional hymns as opposed to the Christian Contemporary Music we hear in a lot of stations.
Man I think he really has gone crazy. I listened to him in 1989-1991 and he was nothing like this. I actually learned stuff from him.
harold campinbg is a senile old fool! i wouldnt beleive him if h said the sun came up in the morning peopel ahve nothing to do with him and do not supporet him
What you say is very true. Here is the confirmation for the scenario you stated very well. Paul to Titus Chpt. 3:8-11
8The saying is sure I desire that you insist on these things, so that those who have come to believe in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works; these things are excellent and profitable to everyone. 9But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10After a first and second admonition, have nothing more to do with anyone who causes divisions, 11 since you know that such a person is perverted and sinful, being self-condemned.
I wonder what will become of his ministry when May 21,2011 ( the exact date he predicts Christ will return ) comes and goes away and nothing happens.
Will the true believers in his ministry still stay ?
I bet he will have a large falling away except for the weirdos and extremely deluded malcontents.
Also someone needs to share with old Howold II Peter 2 where St. Peter takes to task false teachers where old Howold is because he knows what the true gospel message is and has departed from the faith into cultism.
I heard Harold again yesterday afternoon.
He’s convinced the Rapture will occur 21May, but this time he simply leaves off the year. In his mind everybody will only be thinking about death and misery after 21 May.
I think he is on the wrong track, but it would be interesting to see his take on verses such as nobody shall know the day or the hour.
The Rev Ike is dead?
I didn't even know he was sick.
Yes he did pass away. Here is the obit from last year:
Please don’t compare Amill nor Premill believers with the heretical views of such as Harold Camping and his company, which is more as the cults of the JWs and Mormonism while all 3 views of the end-times (Pre, Amill, and Post-Millennialism) are acceptable within the true beliefs of the Christian Church while heretics such as Camping are not. I happen to be an Amillennialist myself but am also a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ whereas Harold Camping has gone off the “deep end” and doesn’t believe in anything or anybody other then himself. I used to be in a similar church that Harold started out in, the Christian Reformed Church, but they were about to kick him out of it when he left anyway (it’s really too bad that I heard that he took some 60 people with him when he left) and it’s been downhill for him since that time he left the church to start his own cultic group. It is kind of ironic that now he doesn’t believe in hell either because if he doesn’t repent and believe in the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, then he will most-likely end up there! But, anyway, please don’t confuse us true Reformed Christians (Calvinists) with this heretic because we really believe in the Scriptures as God’s Word while Harold may have started out that way (though this has always been kind of doubtful in my mind), he is best described by John in his first Epistle as one of the many antichrists in this world: “Therefore we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for it they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.” (1 John 2:19 ESV). In other words, Harold and his followers may have at one time been part of the Reformed Christian church, but he went out on his own and showed that in reality, he was and is one of the many antichrists in the world today. But don’t compare all Calvinistic Christians to him ever! Thanks.
Please dont compare Amill nor Premill believers with the heretical views of such as Harold Camping and his company,
This thread's an oldie.
Backtrack. There is no such intent. Sane dispensationalist BibChr commented on my snide tagline ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!"). My reply (and a clarifying personal email) indicated that I did not include him among the fringe loonies haunting InterWebz conspiracy webboards, poring over the Books of Enoch and Jasher, and seeing recrudescent nephelim under every bush.
I used to be in a similar church that Harold started out in, the Christian Reformed Church,
I spent a decade and a half in the CRC, and remember it fondly. And, am distressed at what I hear is going on there now.
Something tells me Camping doesn’t adhear to that particular verse in Christ’s Olivet Prophecy because then there would be no point in making dates because he’d know he was wrong.
That’s also wrong unless you were making a joke.
I suppose that comment was wrong of me and i am not saying that Camping should die because that is un Christian but i think it would be a coincidince if that happend at 5/21/2011 not wishing death upon him.
I have a greater chance of being right than Camping.
Periodically I will hear his rants because my portable Sirius radio must be tuned to the same FM channel as local Family Radio. I too, think he should make a pledge ...that if he is wrong, there will be no Family Radio as of May 22, 2011. A 70's Country Hits format would be a welcome change.
By if you mean when he is wrong as what he is saying is completely against what the Bible Teaches.